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  • #4,761
  • Jun 29, 2012 5:49am Jun 29, 2012 5:49am
Quoting W.D.Bayer
Hmmm, getting under my skin, aren't we

Nothing special, the usual stuff all over again - Squares, Dasas and Ichi at work

Death of the markets seems to be put on hold.....again

SPX and Oil are breaking out as well, will get you some charts a bit later

I have never seen such beautiful clouds
  • #4,762
  • Jun 29, 2012 6:08am Jun 29, 2012 6:08am
Quoting Ilovepippin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18624085

Hope you are okay.
Thanks, Dirk. Nah, not in the midlands or the north. The weather up there is almost always miserable, flooding or not.
  • #4,763
  • Jun 29, 2012 6:24am Jun 29, 2012 6:24am
Quoting W.D.Bayer
Hmmm, getting under my skin, aren't we

Nothing special, the usual stuff all over again - Squares, Dasas and Ichi at work

Death of the markets seems to be put on hold.....again

SPX and Oil are breaking out as well, will get you some charts a bit later
Great stuff....
  • #4,764
  • Jun 29, 2012 8:27am Jun 29, 2012 8:27am
Quoting Sti
that spike was indeed entertaining
Well that was a joke of course.
I found a very nice analysis of the Euro Natal Chart and when progressed today there are indeed some very nice aspects.

This runs in sync in the mundane sun-pluto opposition indicating a turn of trend.

Obama's healthcare triumph may dampen the economic outlook in the US.
We'll have a look over the weekend.
  • #4,765
  • Jun 29, 2012 10:21am Jun 29, 2012 10:21am
I am thinking of opening up a mundane astrology section on my website. Maybe something like this:

There are so many positive aspects in the 6th house of the U.S. at this time, the 6th house is the house of public health.
Jupiter is conjunct Uranus and then swarming with sextiles and trines. Very favorable and so the health law came through despite of very strong resistance from the Republicans.
Another thing we can now be certain of is that the Sagittarius ascendant is correct for the US natal chart. Many astrologers (including Gann) use the Gemini ascendant, but throw that one out with the old paper.

Also synchronized with this is the sun pluto aspect which 9 out of 10 times provides a good turning point in the financial markets. No different today, so.

Good news for the Euro. Suddenly and unexpectedly good financial news is synchronized with the pluto-uranus aspect. The euro has natal Pluto in the 2nd house of money and made ​​a triangle with transit Uranus. Completely in line with "sudden good news."

Jupiter-Neptune is outside 1 degree now, so weather should clear up.
Good health, sunny skies and money in our pocket. It doesn't get any better than this.
  • #4,766
  • Jun 29, 2012 6:30pm Jun 29, 2012 6:30pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
I am thinking of opening up a mundane astrology section on my website.
Ummm...what happens if tr-Saturn & tr-Mars are conjunct, transiting in conjunction with my Natal Saturn & Natal Pluto...AND tr-Moon Squared to all that conjunction?

Conjunction will happen in Libra, which is my 8th house...
  • #4,767
  • Jun 29, 2012 6:51pm Jun 29, 2012 6:51pm
Quoting stupip
Ummm...what happens if tr-Saturn & tr-Mars are conjunct, transiting in conjunction with my Natal Saturn & Natal Pluto...AND tr-Moon Squared to all that conjunction?

Conjunction will happen in Libra, which is my 8th house...
Well, I can't tell because for that you need to analyse the entire natal chart and for that you need a place and DOB.

I look at it this way: You are born a blank piece of energy. The first light is the first energy you see and is imprinted into your being. With that energy you are in an ever changing world and deal with cicumstances the way you are equipped. This is different and depends on the first energy you got. Everyone is different, unique in that way.

Everyone on this earth will have to deal with the mars-saturn conjunction. This works on a mundane level, and everyone will deal with it differently.

I'm not one to speculate about these things. BTW just started to explore personal astrology so even if I wanted I'm not able to help you.
  • #4,768
  • Jun 29, 2012 8:08pm Jun 29, 2012 8:08pm
Quoting stupip
Ummm...what happens if tr-Saturn & tr-Mars are conjunct, transiting in conjunction with my Natal Saturn & Natal Pluto...AND tr-Moon Squared to all that conjunction?

Conjunction will happen in Libra, which is my 8th house...
On a mundane level this is a very malific aspect. But it is also the beginning and end of a cycle.
It will occur in the 3rd house, the house of transport/postal/telephone and traffic. Mars and Saturn are both malific on a mundane level and are also square with the moon at that time.

It will be a new cycle and the end of the old cycle, the new cycle will obviously involve the people are looking at transportation.
Regardless of that it will be a bad sign for the stockmarkets. Stocks usually drop and it can indicate war, rioting, murder danger to the presidents and government ruled by the sign the conjunction occurs. In this case Libra which rules amongst others: China, Upper Egypt, Argentina, Austria, Indo-China, Tibet, Caspian borders, Burma..

For personal astrology the planets have a different meaning and based upon your sun-sign, ascendant, house placement it can mean different things. For instance if it happened in the 12th house it is a new cycle of how you view yourself. A new beginning and end to the way you looked at yourself before. But this also depends on again your sun-sign, libras are different than Leo's, and ascendant which is how others view you.
Personal astrology is waaaay more complicated. Horoscopes have layers and they are all connected. There are different patterns involving family, siblings, upbringing, environment, parents and what have you. Not good for predicting stock anyway.
  • #4,769
  • Jun 30, 2012 10:49am Jun 30, 2012 10:49am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Sun will be in the 8th house of death, pluto in the 2nd house of finance, uranus in the 5th house of entertainment.

So maybe for our entertainment we see a death of the markets!
He he he... (& LOL), exceptionaly good remark!

Vedic Astrology (bow):
- 5th house - speculation (stocks etc.), gambling, romance, kiddos...
- 8th house - speculation (sti... no, sto...cks etc. LOL)
... among other significations. And there might be dissagreement among various schools of Vedic Astrology.

I am deliberately hungry. Too hot to eat anything. Actually... it is too hot to be hungry at all.

Have fun,

watch the road (Sk (Venus) in same sign as Ke (S node?)) (yea, I know I am months behind...)

Simon
  • #4,770
  • Jun 30, 2012 1:41pm Jun 30, 2012 1:41pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
I see sun-pluto tomorrow. In a trine with uranus non the less.

Sun will be in the 8th house of death, pluto in the 2nd house of finance, uranus in the 5th house of entertainment.

So maybe for our entertainment we see a death of the markets!

No, just kidding!
I do expect a turn in the markets, it can be the start of a longer trend.

Sun in 8th gives death to a prominent politician or royal. So, we'll see.

Chiron the centaur is forever in the skies. I do see an influence but it is minor,...
So, I think all of this is now fulfilled:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48026958...east_n_africa/
  • #4,771
  • Jun 30, 2012 3:22pm Jun 30, 2012 3:22pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
.....

Sun will be in the 8th house of death, pluto in the 2nd house of finance, uranus in the 5th house of entertainment.
.....
This means fear will grow in financial markets?
  • #4,772
  • Jul 1, 2012 8:38am Jul 1, 2012 8:38am
Quoting Almondeyed
This means fear will grow in financial markets?
No, it means a struggle for power combined with a breakdown and rebuild of the finances. Squared with Uranus means sudden changes.
Uranus is in Aries which is ruled by mars. Uranus will take the characteristics of mars, which means that things can get violent.

But you can't put a stoploss on that

What you can do is take care of your long term finances. Like is it a good time to buy or rent? Do I save more or spend more? Should I buy this car now?
In your investment plans or retirement, should you get stocks or bonds? Etc.
  • #4,773
  • Jul 1, 2012 9:02am Jul 1, 2012 9:02am
Here you can see recent earthquake activity.
http://earthquake-report.com/2011/09...sed-to-yellow/

Jupiter is 1 degree off the square with Neptune now and running towards pluto. Pluto who is transforming earth is getting a little help now from Jupiter.
Jupiter is like a magnifying glass, he expands things, Jupiter is the "bigger and better" planet. So, transformation will accelerate.
On the 17th of July Jupiter will be inconjuncy (150 degrees) with Pluto and Mars is in opposition to Uranus which is in Aries. Sun will be square Saturn in Libra and there still is the square with Pluto and Uranus.

What can we expect? Well, some spark in the conflicts around the world. Egypt, Syria etc. We can expect water and moving of earth through water, like mudslides or so. Earthquakes hurricanes or storms, war and revolution.

Mercury will be stationary and then retrograde on July 15. Expect a turn or at least a sideways market.
  • #4,774
  • Jul 2, 2012 12:56am Jul 2, 2012 12:56am
Quoting Ilovepippin

What can we expect? Well, some spark in the conflicts around the world. Egypt, Syria etc. We can expect water and moving of earth through water, like mudslides or so. Earthquakes hurricanes or storms, war and revolution.
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  • #4,775
  • Jul 2, 2012 10:16am Jul 2, 2012 10:16am
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  • #4,776
  • Jul 2, 2012 5:56pm Jul 2, 2012 5:56pm
Quoting A-game
Yes, very funny. But it would behoove you to listen and look at the facts.
Fact is that Gann, the greatest of all time, used astrology. Everyone wants to learn what Gann did, but nobody wants to get into astrology.
In 2009 there were 3 jupiter-neptune aspects and look at all the floodigs for that year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2009_floods

2008 same thing many Neptune aspects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2008_Midwest_floods

I predicted mudslides and guess what: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06...ides-in-china/
This came with a 6.3 scale earthquake.

On top of that there were mudslides in Uganda.

I would rather be wrong on all these disasters, and there is no way that this is gratifying in any way shape or form. I am merely demonstrating what Gann knew and how he used this in his trading.

After a flood he went out in his private airplane to inspect the cotton, wheat, soy etc crops and assessed the damage. According to what he saw he bought or sold options.
  • #4,777
  • Jul 2, 2012 6:12pm Jul 2, 2012 6:12pm
I have not personally investigated whether Gann was the greatest of all time, and his historic track record is of a bit of controversy and a matter of debate.

However, when it comes to astrology and flood and/or China etc... I know China reasonably well, having lived in the far east for a long time, in summer time it's customarily a time of flood, storm, and landslides, the yearly flood of the Yangtze and/or Yellow river is almost a ritual and so the various donation activities around that time of the year, and the army is always mobilised in effort to fight the floods. And if I remember well, summer is also a habitual time in the US south/mid-west for storm/tornado/flood/forest fire etc. It is almost always like a yearly ritual. I don't need astrology to tell you what would happen in this department every year. It doesn't really take astrology/astrologers to work it out. All one needs is a bit of real life experience and common sense that when the weather is bad, crops would get badly affected. Not just water/flood, but fire too as parts of US usually have that. However, not all bad weather lead to surging commodity price as even noted in Gann's writing. Trading needs rather precise setup re entries/stops etc.... not too sure how astrology is really helpful here. (Just remembered this, the Indian subcontinent is famed for its monsoon season every year too, so another yearly ritual of flooding. It's really just a matter of geography/geology/climate.)
  • #4,778
  • Jul 2, 2012 7:45pm Jul 2, 2012 7:45pm
Yes but why are there floods and other weather events in certain parts of the globe this time of the year.

Due to the planetary movements and the moon, affecting tides and winds and the sun affecting temperatures.
  • #4,779
  • Edited 8:05pm Jul 2, 2012 7:55pm | Edited 8:05pm
Quoting Ss7225
I have not personally investigated whether Gann was the greatest of all time, and his historic track record is of a bit of controversy and a matter of debate.

However, when it comes to astrology and flood and/or China etc... I know China reasonably well, having lived in the far east for a long time, in summer time it's customarily a time of flood, storm, and landslides, the yearly flood of the Yangtze and/or Yellow river is almost a ritual and so the various donation activities around that time of the year, and the army is always mobilised in...
This is a fallacy, because I could have predicted something completely different. In that case you would have been correct in saying that astrology is bogus.

Also, these predictions came through rules of astrology, you can verify that.
  • #4,780
  • Jul 2, 2012 8:01pm Jul 2, 2012 8:01pm
how does mecury retro usually play out in the markets?

:-)
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