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  • #4,721
  • Jun 24, 2012 9:23pm Jun 24, 2012 9:23pm
Quoting SpacyTrader
.... since in my opinion we switched to uptrend at the beginning of June.
about that.
  • #4,722
  • Jun 24, 2012 10:46pm Jun 24, 2012 10:46pm
Quoting SpacyTrader
Yup. It's just that it'll be very interesting to see how that short signal will (or won't) work out since in my opinion we switched to uptrend at the beginning of June.
It's a risk I'm willing to take, Jupiter finnished = trend finished (usually)
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  • #4,723
  • Jun 25, 2012 12:46am Jun 25, 2012 12:46am
I read in Mikula's Gann's Scientific Methods Unveiled Book series that every market effected by different planets... As i observe for EUR/USD correct planet pair is Venus and Jupiter. I think trend change will come with an aspect of these two or another event of one of them (ingress, retrogression etc.)
  • #4,724
  • Jun 25, 2012 10:08am Jun 25, 2012 10:08am
Quoting Almondeyed
I read in Mikula's Gann's Scientific Methods Unveiled Book series that every market effected by different planets... As i observe for EUR/USD correct planet pair is Venus and Jupiter. I think trend change will come with an aspect of these two or another event of one of them (ingress, retrogression etc.)
Yes and no.
It could work for cotton or oil, but not for forex or dow index etc.

There are so many different factors involved in currencies that you cannot tie one planet to it.

But there are a few cycles that are more dominant than others.
Some planets vibrate with each other, they resonate at the same frequencies, Gann called this the "Law of Vibration".
These planetary pairs have more influence than others.

Earth and Venus resonate with one another, but also Jupiter and Saturn.

For forex daily look at the moon. The moon is the fastest object out there and triggers sudden events. Also mercury can trigger fast moves.

Days have indeed numbers and so do planets.
Actually the days of the week are named after planets.
Saturday = Saturn (day)
Sunday = Sun (day)
Monday = Moon
Tuesday = Mars
Wednesday = Mercury
Thursday = Jupiter
Friday = Venus
  • #4,725
  • Jun 25, 2012 10:21am Jun 25, 2012 10:21am
Quoting SunTrader
about that.
I think we may come close to retesting the lows, but that's about it. I'm looking for a new long term trend forming here.
  • #4,726
  • Jun 25, 2012 1:21pm Jun 25, 2012 1:21pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Yes and no.
It could work for cotton or oil, but not for forex or dow index etc.

There are so many different factors involved in currencies that you cannot tie one planet to it.

But there are a few cycles that are more dominant than others.
Some planets vibrate with each other, they resonate at the same frequencies, Gann called this the "Law of Vibration".
These planetary pairs have more influence than others.

Earth and Venus resonate with one another, but also Jupiter and Saturn.

For forex daily look at the moon. The moon is...

At first look, yes! there are plenty of factors effecting currencies... However EUR/USD looks like global risk appetite. The more risk averse the crowd, the stronger US Dollar... I dont know, may be first need to look for any scientific paper exist about this (scientific paper about Planetary Cycles Trading Good reason in Turkey to loose job at university.. But it worth to make some research) Do you have some experience or information about this? Or simply mental judgment brought you to this conclusion?
  • #4,727
  • Jun 25, 2012 1:27pm Jun 25, 2012 1:27pm
Quoting Almondeyed
At first look, yes! there are plenty of factors effecting currencies... However EUR/USD looks like global risk appetite. The more risk averse the crowd, the stronger US Dollar... I dont know, may be first need to look for any scientific paper exist about this (scientific paper about Planetary Cycles Trading Good reason in Turkey to loose job at university.. But it worth to make some research) Do you have some experience or information about this? Or simply mental judgment brought you to this conclusion?
Yes, I do.
But you don't have to go crazy in searching. Just look at the correlation between the dollar, oil and the dow/sp500.
  • #4,728
  • Jun 25, 2012 1:37pm Jun 25, 2012 1:37pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Yes, I do.
But you don't have to go crazy in searching. Just look at the correlation between the dollar, oil and the dow/sp500.
Ok, thanks Ilovepippin I'll look.
  • #4,729
  • Jun 25, 2012 4:11pm Jun 25, 2012 4:11pm
Quoting Almondeyed
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...SDforecast.jpg

I little studied moon declination versus EUR/USD average price ((H+L+O+C)/4)... Next week should bring more losses for EURO.
Hi Almondeyed,

I would very much like to build a chart like this. Can you point me in the right direction? Is this built in Excel? How to find and input the data?

Thanks so much.
  • #4,730
  • Jun 25, 2012 4:24pm Jun 25, 2012 4:24pm
How do u guys think this recent square between uranus an pluto will play out in the markets?

From what ive read, these squares are pretty potent..
Uranus Square Pluto History

The last series of squares was between 1932 and 1934, with five exact hits. Many of the fears astrologers have about the upcoming series are based on what happened to the world in the early 1930′s, the Great Depression, political and social upheaval, and the rise of dictators and extremism.
  • #4,731
  • Jun 25, 2012 8:32pm Jun 25, 2012 8:32pm
Quoting Silencer
How do u guys think this recent square between uranus an pluto will play out in the markets?

From what ive read, these squares are pretty potent..
Uranus Square Pluto History

The last series of squares was between 1932 and 1934, with five exact hits. Many of the fears astrologers have about the upcoming series are based on what happened to the world in the early 1930′s, the Great Depression, political and social upheaval, and the rise of dictators and extremism.
Well, Silencer, if not harnessed right these energies have the potential to destroy the world.
Pluto is a destroyer and then rebuilds. Pluto rules plutonium and nuclear energy. He is in Capricorn right now which is an earth sign. Pluto is plowing the earth and uncovers all secrets. He is also hungry for power, blind power, the kind that people are willing to destroy everything just to get power.
Uranus is the planet of sudden changes and is in Aries a fire sign. Uranus is a revolutionairy planet and causes sudden upheaval, unrest and riots.
This aspect can trigger sudden nuclear events like the powerplant failure in Japan when these two planets were only 1 degree apart.

Countries most affected by it are already visible, Middle East, Greece, lower Egypt and Japan. But also countries that will make aspects with this square in their natal charts like: Italy, Spain, Germany, England and USA.
USA has a particular bad aspect early 2014.

We will see earthquakes, natural disasters and uproar everywhere but in mentioned countries in particular, as people will be increasingly unhappy and tense.

Much like the '60's when we had the flower power movement but also the Cuba crisis. This was under a Pluto-Uranus opposition.

This time is not comparable with '29-34 in sense that the US natal chart back then was a little worse with harder war aspects, but now we have more economic cycles peaking. Since 2000 we had 3 major cycles and are now in a series of 7 uranus-pluto aspects.
We had the 60, 37 and 10 year cycle peak. This Uranus-Pluto is more a slow market mover, not as violent a drop as in 2008. 2008 was triggered by the 37 year cycle followed by mars-saturn, a very malific aspect.

In Japan there is enough exposed plutonium to destroy the world
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A small earthquake is enough. Under the current aspects very possible.

There are enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world 100 times over, a very dangerous situation indeed.
  • #4,732
  • Jun 25, 2012 9:15pm Jun 25, 2012 9:15pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Well, Silencer, if not harnessed right these energies have the potential to destroy the world.
Pluto is a destroyer and then rebuilds. Pluto rules plutonium and nuclear energy. He is in Capricorn right now which is an earth sign. Pluto is plowing the earth and uncovers all secrets. He is also hungry for power, blind power, the kind that people are willing to destroy everything just to get power.
Uranus is the planet of sudden changes and is in Aries a fire sign. Uranus is a revolutionairy planet and causes sudden upheaval, unrest and riots.
This...

wow ok, yeah ive heard things like that, thanks....

when u have time, can u post 1 of your links to apply influences to the markets? perhaps some kind of chart drawing tutorial? or anything like baby-pips for gan-analysis :-)

when i get the patience im going to study this...its a very usefull tool if understood correctly...
  • #4,733
  • Jun 25, 2012 9:24pm Jun 25, 2012 9:24pm
Quoting Silencer
wow ok, yeah ive heard things like that, thanks....

when u have time, can u post 1 of your links to apply influences to the markets? perhaps some kind of chart drawing tutorial? or anything like baby-pips for gan-analysis :-)

when i get the patience im going to study this...its a very usefull tool if understood correctly...
http://www.gann.su/book_eng.html

closest thing i've found to babypips for gann
  • #4,734
  • Jun 26, 2012 12:26am Jun 26, 2012 12:26am
Quoting jnevins
Hi Almondeyed,

I would very much like to build a chart like this. Can you point me in the right direction? Is this built in Excel? How to find and input the data?

Thanks so much.
Hi Jnevins...
It is rather simple to build such a chart in excel... To do it Copy/Paste planetary ephemeris from internet.. (I can recommend Calsky.org. You can query detailed ephemeris of solar bodies in this site) Then with text-to-columns function of excel put right ascension and declination to separate columns. Then again with same function split declination to different columns once again (We need to convert degree-minute-second formation of declination to degrees only formation) Then calculate declination in degrees with the following formula: degrees + minutes/60+seconds/3600. But i am sure there are websites on internet that directly give declinations of planetary bodies and softwares built for this aim. I use Kepler (astrology software) and it can plot planetary longitudes and latitudes.
  • #4,735
  • Jun 26, 2012 12:30am Jun 26, 2012 12:30am
Quoting Sti
It's a risk I'm willing to take, Jupiter finnished = trend finished (usually)
hi Sti
what is that indicator. is it free
where to download it?
tnx
  • #4,736
  • Jun 26, 2012 3:26am Jun 26, 2012 3:26am
Hi Kakadoo!

It is a modification of the PlanetLine indicator that you can download from this forum (i don't have the exact posts at hand to place here)

and this indi just shows the longitude of the planets converted to price.
my version does not show the entire curve, it breaks the orbit up in pieces that i find interesting and draws the longitude from the bar (ie price) of this "interesting window"

interesting windows for me are parts of 30 degrees, 45 degrees, 36 degrees

that covers:
30-60-90-120-150-180-210-240-270-300-330-0

45-90-135-180-225-270-315-0

36-72-108-144-180-216-252-288-324-0

orbs of 2, 5 or 10 degrees depending on planet
  • #4,737
  • Jun 27, 2012 8:59am Jun 27, 2012 8:59am
Quoting jnevins
Hi Almondeyed,

I would very much like to build a chart like this. Can you point me in the right direction? Is this built in Excel? How to find and input the data?

Thanks so much.
Certain parts of moon declination work better than others.
You should also check apogee-perigee motion.
  • #4,738
  • Jun 27, 2012 10:03am Jun 27, 2012 10:03am
Quoting Almondeyed
Hi Jnevins...
It is rather simple to build such a chart in excel... To do it Copy/Paste planetary ephemeris from internet.. (I can recommend Calsky.org. You can query detailed ephemeris of solar bodies in this site) Then with text-to-columns function of excel put right ascension and declination to separate columns. Then again with same function split declination to different columns once again (We need to convert degree-minute-second formation of declination to degrees only formation) Then calculate declination in degrees with the following formula:...
Many thanks Almondeyed! Calsky is an excellent site to create data... I was having trouble converting degrees, minutes and seconds of the declination to to just degrees so I built this chart from the column labeled "magnitude", described as:

"Magnitude/Mag

Brightness of an object considered as a point source of light, on a logarithmic scale. The lunar magnitude is calculated based on a study relating ecliptic longitude to measured magnitude."

I took this as a good numerical series for perigee/apogee per I Love Pippin's suggestion. Another issue I am having is getting Euro h,l,c,o/4 data to enter in a column... The attached chart was built in Photoshop by taking a screen shot of the excel chart (magnitude) and overlaying the 4 hr Euro candlestick chart from MT4. Needless to say, I am very impressed! Price seems to track the magnitude of the Moon perfectly for the month of June....
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  • #4,739
  • Jun 27, 2012 12:57pm Jun 27, 2012 12:57pm
Many commodities this week limited up due to bad weather of forest fire and drought. Where is the abundance of water and flood? It rained quite a bit in England until this week the squared occurred and now it's getting a bit too hot! In the far east it was also raining a bit but don't know if it all stopped now after this square...
  • #4,740
  • Jun 27, 2012 1:14pm Jun 27, 2012 1:14pm
Quoting jnevins
Many thanks Almondeyed! Calsky is an excellent site to create data... I was having trouble converting degrees, minutes and seconds of the declination to to just degrees so I built this chart from the column labeled "magnitude", described as:

"Magnitude/Mag

Brightness of an object considered as a point source of light, on a logarithmic scale. The lunar magnitude is calculated based on a study relating ecliptic longitude to measured magnitude."

I took this as a good numerical series for perigee/apogee per I Love Pippin's suggestion....
Interesting work jnevins

Magnitude graph for moon actually means the moon phase and it means angle of moon with sun.. Of course this comes to sun moon aspects.... New moon = sun&moon conjunction, full moon = sun&moon opposition etc. But interesting to use this as an indicator... It worths to work more on it....
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