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  • #721
  • Jun 16, 2012 12:45am Jun 16, 2012 12:45am
Quoting pcguy007
I do beleive that steve cherry picks his trades when he shows them.
Ask any real student who has paid for the course and been in the private forum, that when Steve posted his 50-pips winners with 50 standard lots and making $25K in profits, did he ever show the MT4 title bar? Or did he carefully cut away the pictures so as not to show "Demo Account"?

There are lies and there are lies. One obvious evidence is when Jim posted his great winners. If he showed the P&L and lot sizes in the pictures, those are from Demo account. If he carefully cut away the P&L and don't show lot sizes, those are probably from his tiny real account. From the way Jim and Steve cut-and-paste their pictures over the last 1.5 years, you can pretty much tell a story ......
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  • #722
  • Jun 16, 2012 12:57am Jun 16, 2012 12:57am
Quoting Optimystic
Steve's countless best students go dark for a reason --
The "top traders" and "best students" go into hiding for a good reason:

This is what you saw during Steve's sales webinars,
http://i.imgur.com/ScXvr.png

This is what you DON'T SEE unless you obtained the actual pdf document,
http://i.imgur.com/vwLRM.png

Don't worry if this thread will go dead. I will make this thread enjoyable showing all the lies and lies with interesting evidences to keep this thread alive.
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  • #723
  • Edited 6:19am Jun 16, 2012 2:34am | Edited 6:19am
Quoting Optimystic
Sorry dude. Don't be distracted by that noise in that guys mind above...
Whatever you have to say Optimystic, you cannot deny that the level of backup from Steve Mauro is exactly as per the examples shown by MMaker, earlier in this thread:

You need to spend some time with kar!
SM~

You've not thought, perhaps, that people "go dark" because they've moved on to something else, or maybe they've "gone dark" because there is
no communication allowed between The Disciples?

Any fool can see a pattern AFTER it has shown itself, the question is, did you take the GU as the "W" was forming? No I didn't think so.

If you are one of those who has taken the course, and "gone dark" because you have succeeded so well, why not make a live statement available through an intermediary, like myfxbook.com, and hush the naysayers?

Before anybody starts gobbing-off about needing to do more homework, my trading examples, to go with my notes from the various webinars, and DMR, I have attended, go to several hundreds, and the number of hours spent studying this "methodology", is into the thousands. Needless to say I have found several differences between the actual charts, and those used as examples. In a recent webinar, a chart used was made out to be a 4-hour chart, it was a 15-minute chart. Mr Mauro uses screen-shots of part of charts, hardly ever showing the time-scale, or pair of a chart, even more rarely using the same scale. IF the patterns show up as much as he says they do, there would be no problem with using live charts.

IF the Market Maker Method is such a resounding success, where are the fully accountable statements from live accounts? It couldn't possibly be that the MMM is yet another 4X scam, and that there really isn't a single, even vaguely-profitable, MMM LIVE account to be shown?
  • #724
  • Jun 16, 2012 8:22am Jun 16, 2012 8:22am
"The occasional M or W?" I guess you are TRULY too busy ripping Steve to look at the charts this week. Oh gee, I see a nice (taught by the books) W on GU not once, not twice, but three times this week. Hmm, must be delusional.

Oh, so you admit that you cannot take them when they setup? Yeah that is a hurdle for sure. Yes, there is a learning curve to be able to enter them just as they set up and to be able to filter out the best ones using other tools which are in the course.

Sounds to me like you got excited by the method, went live way before you were fully proficient and well, are pissed off you spent 5k or 1750 down and 185 a month if you were on the payment plan. You have that right but even what Steve talks about in his FREE stuff is right there - this week in GBPUSD.

The choice traders have is:

A. get good at getting in them early or
B. sit around listening to MMmaker bash a method that actually works which he/she hasn't quite been able to trade at the extremes of price yet.

I guess the third choice would be:

C. To join these "day trading" guys/gals who have derivations of steve's indicators on their charts, don't trade M's and W's but do trade levels in their "bank trading" group :

IP address199.30.50.101
Registry US - Nevada - Mesquite - 578 Condor ST - Input Output Flood LLC
Network Range199.30.48.0 - 199.30.55.255
Network NameIOFL

Lastly, the reason I don't require a live statement to be posted by anyone in Steve's group (and who would be foolish enough to put out personal details on the web) is that I can look at charts and see what he talks about forming week after week and (after 6 months of hard work) can look at my own statements and see profit which I never had until I became a student of Steve.

Pure statistics say not everyone will be able to trade well right away - and that a few will force it, over leverage, blow accounts and go postal on it all like MMarketmaker - but the fact is the setups were there this week, and last week and the week before.

MMmaker appears to be trying to start a career slandering others and we wish him/her luck in his/her developing skills in getting in those M's and W's early enough to hold a trade for some pips.

Back to back testing here - what really matters...
  • #725
  • Jun 16, 2012 8:39am Jun 16, 2012 8:39am
keep the mmm stuff coming, but in the meantime you guys should check out www.tradingfx.com or youtube.com/tradingfx.com. these guys are the real deal they offer pure price range bar charts. they have removed time completely from their charts this is the way trading should be.

I have signed up with them, if you want to start a group or need any info let me know via pm.

i like the mmm method but since i can't afford i'll go back to pure price action trading to keep my skills sharp.
  • #726
  • Jun 16, 2012 8:46am Jun 16, 2012 8:46am
Quoting pcguy007
i like the mmm method but since i can't afford i'll go back to pure price action trading to keep my skills sharp.
Why do you need to "afford" it? I'm sure by now you realized that Steve's 4-days course and the 8-weeks Bootcamp recordings can be found if you know the right forum to download them. Even Pipbull76 who hasn't paid for the course already seen the Bootcamp videos to know that Steve gave away 27" monitors.
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  • #727
  • Jun 16, 2012 9:37am Jun 16, 2012 9:37am
Quoting mmaker
Even Pipbull76 who hasn't paid for the course already seen the Bootcamp videos to know that Steve gave away 27" monitors.
The only reason that I have them, a family member of mine is a member and they were generous enough to share them with me, and they explicitly told me not to give it out, which I haven't and won't. They did so because they knew I've been struggling for several years and paid a whole lot of $$$ for things that didn't work. Like I stated before once I make enough money at this I plan on joining.

As for Personal accounts, my family member has taken their $1,500 Live account and in 7weeks turned it into $6,900.. not as flamboyant or as much as other have made, but for me Steve's the Real Deal. They had to do the homework over and over.. but now they're seeing it in their sleep. As one mentor told me, you have to train your RAS (reticular activating system) and your NAC ( Neuro Associative Conditioning) to see them. Train your Brain, Meaning you'll start seeing them without trying, they'll start to pop out at you. But it takes practice. As the saying goes if it's worth while, it's worth doing. It's all in one's perspective.

IMHO, if your not seeing it yet, your not really trying.
  • #728
  • Jun 16, 2012 10:28am Jun 16, 2012 10:28am
I've only seen the 4 day videos from 2010 nothing else


Quoting mmaker
Why do you need to "afford" it? I'm sure by now you realized that Steve's 4-days course and the 8-weeks Bootcamp recordings can be found if you know the right forum to download them. Even Pipbull76 who hasn't paid for the course already seen the Bootcamp videos to know that Steve gave away 27" monitors.
  • #729
  • Jun 16, 2012 1:57pm Jun 16, 2012 1:57pm
I would like to see the full screen shot to make sure thats not a demo acct. showing the below info does nothing


Quoting mmaker
Ask any real student who has paid for the course and been in the private forum, that when Steve posted his 50-pips winners with 50 standard lots and making $25K in profits, did he ever show the MT4 title bar? Or did he carefully cut away the pictures so as not to show "Demo Account"?

There are lies and there are lies. One obvious evidence is when Jim posted his great winners. If he showed the P&L and lot sizes in the pictures, those are from Demo account. If he carefully cut away the P&L and don't show lot sizes, those are probably from...
  • #730
  • Jun 16, 2012 3:14pm Jun 16, 2012 3:14pm
here's some more unhappy people

http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public...akersforex.com
  • #731
  • Jun 16, 2012 11:12pm Jun 16, 2012 11:12pm
Quoting qtrader
I would like to see the full screen shot to make sure thats not a demo acct. showing the below info does nothing
Join the private student forum and you will find out for yourself. The full screenshot is carefully cut off at the MT4 title bar to avoid showing "Demo" account.
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  • #732
  • Jun 16, 2012 11:15pm Jun 16, 2012 11:15pm
Quoting pcguy007
here's some more unhappy people
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public...akersforex.com
Those reviews are mixed up. Some were not even paid students but like you, possessed the 4-days course videos from free downloads. What you need to hear are those who actually participated in the private student forum, Sunday sessions, Breakout sessions, Daily Market Review webinars, and successive course retakes.
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  • #733
  • Edited Jun 17, 2012 7:55pm Jun 16, 2012 11:26pm | Edited Jun 17, 2012 7:55pm
So many of you have "seen" the 4-days course videos, downloaded from various other forums, shared in NeoRio's Skype room, uploaded to BitTorrent sites, even discussed on some arabic forums, for the past 1.5 years.

I have yet to see a consistently profitable trader, nevermind the bad karma of not paying for the course, who has shown P&L in myfxbook or broker contests. 1.5 years is sufficient period for evaluation by thousands of outside people who got hold of the videos, adding to the 1116 who actually took the course.

If you still want to pay for the course, go for it. Kar/Jim/Ray/Kim will be very happy to sign you up for additional $102.50/mth joining the rest of the struggling students.
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  • #734
  • Jun 17, 2012 1:02pm Jun 17, 2012 1:02pm
I'm using the system but am not a member steve
  • #735
  • Edited 1:12am Jun 18, 2012 12:39am | Edited 1:12am
Hi MMaker,

That's a healthy load of hatred there. Good luck with that.
Neo does not post any video's about Steve Mauro and Never has.

There are plenty of little SM groups banding together and having great success Without the DMR. The DMR is not just for extremely lazy people who want everything done for them, it's also for people who want more, or are just plain interetsed in learning more.
Seeing another take on it. It's not necessary or complusory.

I doubt you'll be getting an invite to any of the groups, as they are positive people and are having success. They don't have time to listen to complaining.

Ever think perhaps you're the problem?

Could be me, but then again, I'm extemely happy with my progress.

Regards Trade-R.
  • #736
  • Jun 18, 2012 12:48am Jun 18, 2012 12:48am
I have the privilege to be in Neo's Skype room and I would like to say I have never been offered, nor received any recorded material from anyone in that Skype room. SM chart setups are discussed from time to time but the SM method is only occasionally discussed there. I have to add I have gained a lot of assistance in my trading from watching Steve's promo videos and am incorporating those concepts in my trading along with others from other traders and methods.
  • #737
  • Jun 18, 2012 2:33am Jun 18, 2012 2:33am
Quoting Trade-R
Hi MMaker,

That's a healthy load of hatred there. Good luck with that.
Neo does not post any video's about Steve Mauro and Never has.

There are plenty of little SM groups banding together and having great success Without the DMR. The DMR is not just for extremely lazy people who want everything done for them, it's also for people who want more, or are just plain interetsed in learning more.
Seeing another take on it. It's not necessary or complusory.

I doubt you'll be getting an invite to any of the groups, as they are positive people...
hey trade 7,get off mmakers back he has the balls to come on here too expose that scammer and crew,and why not invite him .people like you trade 7 who are the problem you dont know what your talking about
student
  • #738
  • Jun 18, 2012 3:14am Jun 18, 2012 3:14am
Quoting garrye
hey trade 7,get off mmakers back he has the balls to come on here too expose that scammer and crew,and why not invite him .people like you trade 7 who are the problem you dont know what your talking about
Well he may have the balls to expose HIMSELF, but he does himself a dis-service.

Stomping his feet like a child and running down every person that is trying to help him will really get him somewhere.

Its not upto me to invite him anywhere. However having gotten several invitations myself, I could see why he thinks no one is doing well or doing anything.

Perhaps no one wishes to see him expose himself again?

One Bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch.

I would be Trade-R not trade-7. Its little mistakes like these can change entire meanings in the charts.

Regards R. But you can call me 7 if you like.
  • #739
  • Jun 18, 2012 3:19am Jun 18, 2012 3:19am
Quoting Trade-R
Well he may have the balls to expose HIMSELF, but he does himself a dis-service.

Stomping his feet like a child and running down every person that is trying to help him will really get him somewhere.

Its not upto me to invite him anywhere. However having gotten several invitations myself, I could see why he thinks no one is doing well or doing anything.

Perhaps no one wishes to see him expose himself again?

One Bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch.

I would be Trade-R not trade-7. Its little mistakes like these can change...
where im from 7 stands for dickhead
student
  • #740
  • Jun 18, 2012 3:30am Jun 18, 2012 3:30am
Quoting garrye
where im from 7 stands for dickhead
That must make you an 8 than?

And your successful trading group would be H8ter's?

Good luck with that. 7 : )
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