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  • Dec 21, 2011 10:36am Dec 21, 2011 10:36am
  •  Beljevina
  • Joined May 2009 | Status: Trading, Not Posting | 2,130 Posts
Some nice charting + analysis in this little trafficed thread.

Just in terms of a recap, Monday saw the move down, then resulted in turnaround Tuesday yesterday, culminating to the (Wednesday) crucial 1250 level at just before 10:25am London time, or 5:25am NY time.

I see others are using cumulative delta here, and wanted to post what happened at that crucial 1248/1250 level, in terms of buying and selling, resulting in a top and turnaround: 1249 was a buying climax IMHO, with significantly increased volume on both sides.

Here is the volume ladder view of that move up. It is fascinating to me to see that buyers actually outnumber sellers by a smidge: check how on most levels of that Wide Range Bar there's a few more buyers EXCEPT at that 'fat' 1248 area (check the next candle too) - this is the battle level - there is actually even more buying at the top of that 5:30 close candle. Note that candle has buyers overall outnumbering (744 COT); this is the culmination of the buying climax, but, not enough continued buying - meaning sellers stepped up en mass in that WRB candle too (even though buying COT was +7653). Thus, the buying climax ends, some buyers are trapped, and the down move begins. Note, you can see the average 1-2.5 point buyer's stops triggered down around 1245. Fascinating, and textbook stuff (as was the resistance value of the 1250 level), but, alas I was in my North American bed at the time.

As of 10:30am NY time, ES has found support at the 1226ish support zone, aided by the confluence of DPP being just below here, as well as yesterday's VWAP. Normally, the post 10am NY period is just a lot of treading water, until 2pm comes around - it's looking like today may be one of those days.
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  • Dec 21, 2011 12:12pm Dec 21, 2011 12:12pm
  •  Lowell83
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 43 Posts
Mondays hidden divergence setup was negated, but then the Inventory grab finally took off in the AH session, big surprise

Above 1245 was a good spot to look for shorts with a nice multiday delta divergence in play (over 100k). Too bad I was asleep as well.

Lots of VSA entrys on the 1min to catch that nice ride down.

I really like the idea of the volume ladder and how the data is displayed , I just can't seem to wrap my head around it. I think I am more of a visual type.

Very informative view Beljevina, I would expect nothing less from one of the VSA experts here on FF.
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  • Dec 21, 2011 12:23pm Dec 21, 2011 12:23pm
  •  Beljevina
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Quoting Lowell83
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I really like the idea of the volume ladder and how the data is displayed , I just can't seem to wrap my head around it. I think I am more of a visual type.

Very informative view Beljevina, ...
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You're right, it is a mindset change this OFA stuff. It's helped my view of what in reality happens at upthrust and shakeouts - it certainly changed what I envisioned happens with my preconceived VSA notions - it refined them, I would say, and, is of supreme benefit to any serious trader.

Your cumulative delta charts and usage of prox bars/patterning is fascinating - I haven't yet had a chance to walk back through and check the historical postings, but will do so, but I have no doubt there is much value there.
 
 
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  •  Lowell83
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Quoting Beljevina
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You're right, it is a mindset change this OFA stuff. It's helped my view of what in reality happens at upthrust and shakeouts - it certainly changed what I envisioned happens with my preconceived VSA notions - it refined them, I would say, and, is of supreme benefit to any serious trader.

Your cumulative delta charts and usage of prox bars/patterning is fascinating - I haven't yet had a chance to walk back through and check the historical postings, but will do so, but I have no doubt there is much value there.
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I couldn't agree more. I have found that my Cumulative delta journey has not only enhanced my VSA skills, but has given me a better understanding of the market in general.

I mainly use VSA as my trigger for WHEN to enter my trades and the CD for WHERE.

Livestream is the real pro when it comes to CD and the prox bars are his design (or his friends, can't remember) I have never used them.

Theres lots of CD threads on other forums. Elitetrader, Traderslab, ninjatrader forum and priceaction.net are good starts.

Also check out Livestream's charthub, I had the link, but I can't seem to find it at the moment, perhaps he will post it.

Edit: Funny how there are no CD threads on FF, maybe someone should start one?
 
 
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  • Jan 19, 2012 7:20pm Jan 19, 2012 7:20pm
  •  kikkofrio
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Target hit:
http://www.kikkichimoku.com/blog/201...ima-parte.html
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  • Jan 20, 2012 5:15am Jan 20, 2012 5:15am
  •  dashlat
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is it possible?
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  • Jan 20, 2012 8:35am Jan 20, 2012 8:35am
  •  Lowell83
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It has been rallying pretty steady for the last few weeks. We have about 20k of short inventory still remaining. Will this be enough fuel to reach 1369? I don't know, but if any significant news comes out we might see it try.

After all the short inventory is exhausted it will be much harder for the market to continue rallying.
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  • Feb 2, 2012 6:05am Feb 2, 2012 6:05am
  •  kikkofrio
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long?
http://www.kikkichimoku.com/blog/201...nale-long.html
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  • Feb 3, 2012 8:44am Feb 3, 2012 8:44am
  •  kikkofrio
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long?
http://www.kikkichimoku.com/blog/201...nale-long.html
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  • Feb 8, 2012 2:56am Feb 8, 2012 2:56am
  •  kikkofrio
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tp2 hit.
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  • Feb 21, 2012 6:27pm Feb 21, 2012 6:27pm
  •  kikkofrio
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short?
http://www.kikkichimoku.com/blog/201...ale-short.html
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  • Feb 26, 2012 12:51pm Feb 26, 2012 12:51pm
  •  Manekineko
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Quoting kikkofrio
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short?
http://www.kikkichimoku.com/blog/201...ale-short.html
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That happened because Sp made a new high on 20 of february and Nq didn't so who was leading was Sp and not NQ.
Support is not taken out. And the trend is up.
This is the spread Nq vs Sp. The high in the spread was 16 february.
Volume doesn't matter.Too lazy to remove the volume.
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  • Mar 7, 2012 12:56pm Mar 7, 2012 12:56pm
  •  kikkofrio
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short?
http://www.kikkichimoku.com/blog/201...ade-short.html
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  • May 14, 2012 7:24pm May 14, 2012 7:24pm
  •  kikkofrio
  • | Joined May 2010 | Status: Member | 187 Posts
Ichimoku daily
http://www.kikkichimoku.com/blog/201...ll-in-may.html
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  • Dec 13, 2013 2:11am Dec 13, 2013 2:11am
  •  fibstalker
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jan 2013 | 1,169 Posts
Hello,
posted a blog post yesterday on where I see the S&P500 emini: http://elitefive.wordpress.com/2013/...lish-language/

To me correction to 1,737 on new March 2014 contract.
Let me know what you think.

Cheers
~FibStalker
"markets traded by programs/HFT offer a significant trading edge..."
 
 
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  •  Prisha
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Guys, I think SPX500 is a potential buy trade with an ultimate target at 3000.00
 
 
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