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  • #81
  • Apr 18, 2012 12:13am Apr 18, 2012 12:13am
It also looks like the labels are a bit buggy. There's some obvious trouble with getting them lined up, and the CZ label is a different color.

For better uniformity, all 3 labels should look as much alike as possible: Place them same price level (same height), even if that means there is a gap between the label and the top of this histos, and make them all the same color and font, etc. This "master level" should be based on the height of the tallest frame, which will most likely be the 4000 box.
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  • #82
  • Apr 18, 2012 1:44am Apr 18, 2012 1:44am
Another registration-type bug.

Notice that there are 2 4000 boxes in this pic, both of them are colored Gold. Both frames should be lining up perfectly on top of each other. But when I scale out to H1 or H4, your 4000 box (on the left) doesn't line up properly. For some reason it stays at least 1 bar too far to the left.

This does not happen on M15.
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  • #83
  • Apr 18, 2012 2:02am Apr 18, 2012 2:02am
OK, this will be the last one for a while, I promise! What can I say, you've inspired me. It's all your fault! LOL

Notes on pic. All of these histo lines should be painting over the orange threshold line.
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  • #84
  • Apr 18, 2012 9:28am Apr 18, 2012 9:28am
Quoting forexhard
Wow. All I can say really is... Wow.

I have found some bugs that I will put in the next post. This one is much more basic:

~Change the default heatmap threshold to 60, and the fractal threshold to 5.

~Make all box frame thicknesses 2 by default.

~Default frame colors are LightGray, Black, and Gold -- smallest to largest.

~Make it so that the fractal threshold value is an actual hit rate. "5" should mean 5 actual fractals have been counted, and so on. And make it so that we can use numbers at least as high as 10.

~Always...
Yeah this indicator has become almost respectable with all your feedback. I can almost get rid of the dynamic box indicator. Maybe then I can actually get an answer to my trade management questions. Oh well I actually came up with my own answers with all the thinking about it. Hopefully won't be first and last time I can get some correlated feedback in the context of what I was actually thinking during a trade.


Thanks for the input here especially the CZ colors since I was struggling with those last night.

For defaults I personally do not use 2 thickness because I can't see the candles and I don't use black because that is my background. That leaves only these that would need to be changed when I post. I will try to remember this but just FYI if you notice them off.


"~Make it so that the fractal threshold value is an actual hit rate. "5" should mean 5 actual fractals have been counted, and so on. And make it so that we can use numbers at least as high as 10."

What makes you say it does not work exactly like this?
  • #85
  • Apr 18, 2012 10:01am Apr 18, 2012 10:01am
Quoting forexhard
Another registration-type bug.

Notice that there are 2 4000 boxes in this pic, both of them are colored Gold. Both frames should be lining up perfectly on top of each other. But when I scale out to H1 or H4, your 4000 box (on the left) doesn't line up properly. For some reason it stays at least 1 bar too far to the left.

This does not happen on M15.
This looks like the same issue you had many posts ago. I tried to get more feedback then but we moved on.

What build of MT4 are you using?

Can you verify this is not just display glitch? Can you actually select and manipulating both boxes.

Does it always do this. Everytime you change from M15 to H1 for example? What if you restart or reattach the control is it still like this.

Where are the 2 lines. 1 current and 1 at the previous bar?

What is the correct behavior. For me it is always through the previous bar not the current.I am not sure why it does that or if that is correct. Seems to me it should be through the previous M15 bar but on higher timeframes that might be the current bar. Perhaps if I change this behavior it would fix your issue. The code actually looks to me like it should do this so maybe we just have a weird build issue. If you can select the box what is the right edge time and what is the current and previous bar times?


I am on build 409. I think that is farely old so maybe I can just upgrade and get all your bugs. Yay.
  • #86
  • Apr 18, 2012 10:09am Apr 18, 2012 10:09am
Quoting forexhard
Now for the tricky part. When I tried to use different CZ settings, this crazy long CZ popped up. It comes up when either one of the 2 values are changed from the defaults. They do not need to both be changed in order for this to occur.
I can't duplicate this as well. Is this also every time you change the settings? Maybe this all related to your other bug.
  • #87
  • Apr 18, 2012 10:21am Apr 18, 2012 10:21am
Quoting forexhard
It also looks like the labels are a bit buggy. There's some obvious trouble with getting them lined up, and the CZ label is a different color.
I noticed this too just didn't really have a solution. I will have to make a LabelColor setting that you can standardize. What default?
  • #88
  • Apr 18, 2012 12:37pm Apr 18, 2012 12:37pm
I'm using the newest platform available on Oanda.

The other indicators on my chart are older and trusted. They have always worked well for me. We are trying to get your stuff up to their level. Take it as a compliment.

Personally I can't code. But I know what good codes should do, and what bugs look like. Your codes still have some bugs. By the time you work out how to fix those last few bugs I pointed out, your coding skills should have greatly improved. Take it as a positive challenge.

And yes, the better you code, the better you should trade. It's cool that you're finally seeing that for yourself. It's all about seeing the patterns that other people miss. It's what my Stairsteps thread is all about, identifying the most interesting patterns by sight. The people who "get" this are the ones that are earning pips over there. The guys that don't are the ones screaming about templates and lot sizes and lagging filters.

So get your big boy exterminator pants on and find those bugs!
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  • #89
  • Apr 18, 2012 1:31pm Apr 18, 2012 1:31pm
Quoting forexhard
I'm using the newest platform available on Oanda.

The other indicators on my chart are older and trusted. They have always worked well for me. We are trying to get your stuff up to their level. Take it as a compliment.

Personally I can't code. But I know what good codes should do, and what bugs look like. Your codes still have some bugs. By the time you work out how to fix those last few bugs I pointed out, your coding skills should have greatly improved. Take it as a positive challenge.

And yes, the better you code, the better...
Ok I have wanted to try OANDA for some time but despite starting an unfunded live account and a practice account I can't seem to even get the stupid thing downloaded. I emailed them so hopefully I can get that resolved. Until then I am stuck unable to duplicate your issues so finding and fixing is impossible. What build are you on (this is in the help about section). I might have to find another brokers demo with the same build. I downloaded my latest from IBFX but it is still 409.

I have included the latest version with what I can fix as well as the CZ switch to using Boxes which is much cleaner and useful if we ever want to overlay them in any way.

"And yes, the better you code, the better you should trade." Haha if only this were true. I think I am too old for my coding skills to improve. Just have to find new ideas to code with the skills I have.
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  • #90
  • Apr 18, 2012 2:26pm Apr 18, 2012 2:26pm
Nicely done yet again! The CZ histo look so much better.

All of that was just the warm-up. Are you ready for the main event?:
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  • #91
  • Apr 18, 2012 7:56pm Apr 18, 2012 7:56pm
OK, so that one bug with the super long CZ is back.

I had set the box sizes to 32 & 28 (slightly longer and shorter than normal),and it was fine for a few hours. Then suddenly and for no obvious reason, it popped up again.

So I have set the ShowCZBoxesDebug to False. I've double checked the histo and it still shows the proper CZ format for the "better" boxes (which is the main thing I suppose), but the red artifacts are now invisible.
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  • #92
  • Apr 18, 2012 8:20pm Apr 18, 2012 8:20pm
OK, I think I might have this bug figured out.

I've marked a CZ with the green box. This is a very nice CZ, and it definitely fits with the 32/28 size criteria. This same area should have been getting one of your red boxes. And it was. But for some reason, the box painted backwards across the screen instead of forwards!

I don't know why it would do this, but I'm wondering if it maybe has something to do with your "ignore" codes? Any new CZ will be forming within the gray Ignore Box by default after all.

What do you think? Think maybe that it's actually ignoring more than it should be doing?
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  • #93
  • Apr 18, 2012 9:00pm Apr 18, 2012 9:00pm
OK, I think I have the spacing bug figured out too...
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  • #94
  • Apr 18, 2012 10:05pm Apr 18, 2012 10:05pm
Quoting forexhard
OK, I think I have the spacing bug figured out too...
Ok I did get OANANDA Demo 419 working. And found some issues that are new but not quite the same as for the higher TF big frame boxes. So I will get that fixed tomorrow I think it will probably resolve your issue.

The CZ issue is what you are saying basically it is a live CZ so it shoots past the current bar causing the warp.

I fixed it to not use the current bar like it should have been doing. But the CZ does not respect the ignore box by design. Should it?
  • #95
  • Apr 18, 2012 10:11pm Apr 18, 2012 10:11pm
Quoting Paradox
....I fixed it to not use the current bar like it should have been doing. But the CZ does not respect the ignore box by design. Should it?
CZ's should be allowed to form any time and any place. The ignore box has no connection to the CZ boxes. The ignore box is connected to the histo display only.
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  • #96
  • Apr 19, 2012 8:52pm Apr 19, 2012 8:52pm
Here is the latest version

It took a bit of fudging around to get the spikes to display similarly with heatmaps and fractal having different scales. Hopefully it is stable under all settings and zooming. I guess this is an ok display feature but really there is less information in it so I still like the full histogram.

I was unable to exactly duplicate your issue with multi boxes. Turns out my issues I thought were a bug was actually from not having enough data loaded in the new account. I did fix the way the time frame and current bar gets ignored so it should be at least correct in moving between zones and maybe that will fix the issue you have.

The display glitch with the current CZ is also fixed.
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  • #97
  • Apr 19, 2012 9:24pm Apr 19, 2012 9:24pm
Yes, it looks great now. All the bugs are fixed. I also like what you did with the CZ box labels. Nice touch.

As for the graph itself, I was hoping to see only the graph as shown in post #90 -- e.g., the center CZ block...the 2 orange threshold lines...the 2 sets of blue histos, etc. Just exactly as shown in that pic. The current Heatmap and Fractal displays can go away. From now on only send me this one 3-piece graph.

Notes:

The 2 orange lines should each be 1 bar away from the CZ block, and the blue histos cross over the top of the orange lines. Again, just like from post #90.

At the top of this new graph, the titles should read: 60[..space...]CZ Zone[...space...]5. The words Heatmap and Fractal are not needed. Just show their respective threshold settings from now on.

Your own indicator can look any way you prefer, of course. If you like to see the full histo scales from last week, that's OK with me. If you feel they still have value even after all these requested changes, then why not go ahead and post both types here -- your style indi and my style indi. Name them Paradox and FxH. I see no reason to limit your posts to just one style of indi. Offer them both!

But just for the record, I am really loving the direction this project is taking!
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  • #98
  • Apr 19, 2012 9:43pm Apr 19, 2012 9:43pm
Quoting forexhard
Yes, it looks great now. All the bugs are fixed. I also like what you did with the CZ box labels. Nice touch.

As for the graph itself, I was hoping to see only the graph as shown in post #90 -- e.g., the center CZ block...the 2 orange threshold lines...the 2 sets of blue histos, etc. Just exactly as shown in that pic. The current Heatmap and Fractal displays can go away. From now on only send me this one 3-piece graph.

Notes:

The 2 orange lines should each be 1 bar away from the CZ block, and the blue histos cross over the top of the...
Ok you can just set those histos to false. I need to keep the code together just to be able to see the full values. Also there really is not different code to split at this point since you have to compute the full histograms just make the CZ Zone and Spikes.

I do know this doesn't match your picture. I will add a buffer in the next version.
  • #99
  • Apr 19, 2012 9:45pm Apr 19, 2012 9:45pm
Small adjustments needed for the new Fractal histo.

The new Heatmap histo looks perfect.

Having the orange threshold lines will help define the correct threshold limits...
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  • #100
  • Apr 20, 2012 9:30am Apr 20, 2012 9:30am
Quoting forexhard
Small adjustments needed for the new Fractal histo.

The new Heatmap histo looks perfect.

Having the orange threshold lines will help define the correct threshold limits...
From looking at your picture post #90 this doesn't make sense. Since you do not have the lines before the threshold line it is not really a threshold line. It looks more like a buffer and that would just push the same information out a bar not make it look different.

You can also see the heatmap is not perfectly correlated (ie bottom blue bar). This is what I was talking about adjusting the ratios. Also I wanted even the touch of the threshold to show as at least one bar on the spikes so it would be visible.

Overall it is obviously never going to be perfect even if they are the same since we have many values to display and MT4 only allows us resolution at the bar level not the pixel level.

So after sleeping on it what I think I want to do now is actually make the spikes use the exact same histogram drawing code and just add the ability to dynamically adjust how much before the threshold you can see. Then you could just project that onto the CZ however you wanted. I believe that will give you exactly what you want to see as well as being a clean solution.
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