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  • #101
  • Mar 19, 2012 5:12pm Mar 19, 2012 5:12pm
USD spot index on both weekly and daily are below the Gann hi-lo.

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The big advantage here is, this is not the futures contract. The price movement you see here is coming purely from the spot market price, therefore giving you a more precise indication of how much it's actually moving the market.

For me the biggest advantage is being able to analysze the USD in isolation, on its own merits. It's by far the biggest beast on the block, but most of us are only looking at it in terms of other pairs. This flaws your analysis because the other side will always cause a statistical bias.

Look at the huge volume declines here the last 5 weeks, it is extremely noticable. This along with the VIX in a steady decline and global equity markets rising makes it pretty easy to distinguish sentiment change.
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  • #102
  • Mar 20, 2012 4:14pm Mar 20, 2012 4:14pm
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See this weekly aussie chart. Though fisher has a bit more to fall before it gets to 0 i like a short here based on the earlier timeframes, this give me even more confidence to hold AU short. Weak data on china pressuring commodities downward, BHP also warned on china demand so i think we could get a big correction in aussie at these levels
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  • #103
  • Mar 22, 2012 7:29pm Mar 22, 2012 7:29pm
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1 hr EJ meets the system criteria for long entry if candle closes here above gann line.
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  • #104
  • Mar 23, 2012 9:48am Mar 23, 2012 9:48am
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Found this VSA template that looks pretty slick although a bit buggy. otice the red bar spike on the USD spot index after the home sales release. Very noticable on a large index like this, went long gbpusd great trade so far.
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  • #105
  • Mar 27, 2012 6:49am Mar 27, 2012 6:49am
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Good spot to short EU here
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  • #106
  • Mar 27, 2012 9:36pm Mar 27, 2012 9:36pm
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yen appreciating tonight as some pressure on the asian equity markets creep in audjpy looks like a good short here
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  • #107
  • Mar 28, 2012 9:47am Mar 28, 2012 9:47am
I had 3 trades today one small win,one is at+25pips and one is about to lock pips.Are you using some trailing or something to lock profit.Because this system allow me to trade overnight.I want to enter the trade and go to sleep if i consider that will be a good one.
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  • #108
  • Edited 11:15am Mar 28, 2012 11:04am | Edited 11:15am
Excellent, good to hear it's quite a simple system isnt it?

exits: well this all depends. 2 suggestions:

1) Generally I'll use a trail stop on the yen crosses since they tend to move more. If the trend is strong you can get away with a 30 pip trail stop on GBPJPY I've done it several times. Otherwise, use a level from the sixths indicator. So on AJ daily TF right now look at that. a drop from the green line to the yellow exit would be a conservative. A drop from the green line to purple line exit would be more aggressive.

2) Exit when the price crosses back over the blue gann line (and candle closes)

Essentially, these lines I use a fibs since they make for good entry or exit points. Let me know if I don't make sense.

Quoting kumetto
I had 3 trades today one small win,one is at+25pips and one is about to lock pips.Are you using some trailing or something to lock profit.Because this system allow me to trade overnight.I want to enter the trade and go to sleep if i consider that will be a good one.
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  • #109
  • Edited 11:32am Mar 28, 2012 11:16am | Edited 11:32am
Thats make sense.I entered EU here just after closing of the first bar under the gann ,locked 1 pips because i use step locking ea.I dindt enter the other ones.I'm still unfrendly with this system but its prety simple.Whats your opinion about the charts.
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  • #110
  • Edited 11:49am Mar 28, 2012 11:23am | Edited 11:49am
Stop triggered +1 pips.Thats bad i'm sure that price is going to go down for while.But thats it for today.
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  • #111
  • Mar 28, 2012 11:23am Mar 28, 2012 11:23am
Yeah EU looks great here, look at 4 HR EU, we have 1 confirmed downcandle under gann so it should have plenty of room to drop lower. Always remember to look at your 4 hr charts too to make sure you aren't setting yourself up for a failed trade.

You are hosting the images on an external site and FF won't let me view, please upload the images directly to the thread (you have to hit the advanced button, then attachments to upload) i have to back to work now i will look at your charts tonight, thanks!

Quoting kumetto
Thats make sense.I entered EU here just after closing of the first bar under the gann ,locked 1 pips because i use step locking ea.I dindt enter the other ones.I'm still unfrendly with this system but its prety simple.Whats your opinion about the charts.
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  • #112
  • Mar 28, 2012 5:15pm Mar 28, 2012 5:15pm
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I've noted the entries which are subject to very little interpretation based on the rules, potential exits listed also.
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  • #113
  • Mar 28, 2012 5:20pm Mar 28, 2012 5:20pm
By the way there are more trades on those charts
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  • #114
  • Mar 28, 2012 6:48pm Mar 28, 2012 6:48pm
After going back and reading the first post, I've streamlined it a bit to be more clear.
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  • #115
  • Mar 29, 2012 6:28am Mar 29, 2012 6:28am
Well i got +20 from UJ sell and +95 from EJ sell.Eu was on -30 and closed it manualy afraid of more loses.Today opened new sell EU i'm +20 locked +5 pips. But its hitting a daylow(1.3275) so i dont know what will happen. Thanks for explanation.
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  • #116
  • Mar 29, 2012 7:30am Mar 29, 2012 7:30am
That's great Kumetto. Can you post your lock profit to the thread please? I would like to take a look at it, thanks!!


Quoting kumetto
Well i got +20 from UJ sell and +95 from EJ sell.Eu was on -30 and closed it manualy afraid of more loses.Today opened new sell EU i'm +20 locked +5 pips. But its hitting a daylow(1.3275) so i dont know what will happen. Thanks for explanation.
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  • #117
  • Mar 29, 2012 3:27pm Mar 29, 2012 3:27pm
Update live today charts.I locked pips manualy,but i have some EAs.Posted here.One is the 10 lvl with sl+tp other is 3 lvl with no Sl+Tp.Must warn you 10 lvl is bugged if you make a trade leav it if yo change chart or restart the trader it will stop to manage to the trade. I learned that hard way.My setup is simple.Get in trade ,reach 20 pips, lock 1 and then try to get 100. I'll post the .set file too.
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  • #118
  • Apr 2, 2012 6:47pm Apr 2, 2012 6:47pm
1 hour chart - gbpjpy - 135 pips

Entry a bit early, stop just above recent high, later confirmed by Gann, exit at earlier S/R.

Trying to use Sonic candles only, but unfortunately that indicator doesn't have the alert that the histogram has (hint!).

@OP: I know you are a voracious reader, do you have any written material on Gann Hi Lo? Very good indicator, but hard to get any information on. Even the Gann specialists know very little if any about it!
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  • #119
  • Apr 2, 2012 6:57pm Apr 2, 2012 6:57pm
1 hour silver - 67 (silver) cents

Entry on Gann signal and signal from earlier ssbo box.

Exit at what was a doji after the two big green vsa bars up.
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  • #120
  • Apr 2, 2012 7:49pm Apr 2, 2012 7:49pm
Hey nice trades!! I need to switch brokers to start trading metals again, as my current one is a pure criminal.

You are right there is very little information. Found a supposed improved version that I didn't find to be any better at all. I'm experimenting with offsetting overlaps as a way to filter the noise. Also looking into using correlation as a filter. After spending more time googling, I found that it's actually a cleverly programmed moving average. Gann used it as both an entry and exit. I can share with you the attached written by Krausz a famous Gann instructor from the 80's. I don't claim to know or implement Gann, but this part of it seemed straight forward to understand. PM me your email, I can send you more info.

Quoting ikdenk
1 hour silver - 67 (silver) cents

Entry on Gann signal and signal from earlier ssbo box.

Exit at what was a doji after the two big green vsa bars up.
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