Planetary Cycles Trading (EUR/USD)

I have very little time and knowledge to dedicate to an interesting topic right now unfortunately, but the only slightly interesting astro aspect Ive found thus far, that seems to have a consistent affect is Uranus/Mercury Helio on US stock indices, but its not perfect and as mercury is such a 'fast' planet there are an awful lot of aspects, so Im cognisant of being fooled by randomness!

Id be interested to know of any others anyone has found they think work consistently?

For the past several weeks I have been re-programming my software to accommodate (is this how you spell it? I'm too lazy to check right now)some tests I would like to do, one of the things is making a list of statistics to settle some questions once and for all. I'll take your Mercury-helio situation into it, and once I have some results I'll post it here.

Sti is waaaay beyond....
Gann did not have a computer.

I can't trade for you. Different people, different trading styles.
Now, I did give the price level of jupiter/venus to about a pip.

Matei gave you the eurusd turn level.

Right now we need to reconsider as the grand trine is over and we are getting a clear picture of what will come next.

Meanwhile, there is for thousands of dollars worth of information freely available on this thread, for free that is, yes FREE!
All you need to do is learn how to apply it to YOUR trading style.

Cheers.

Somewhere over the rainbow
there's a land that I've heard of
walzing a lullaby

'Elo, Co.!

Long time no see. Moved my permanent address, doing renovation of house, and... studying real Astrology. Still unemployed (hooray!).

Attached is (not sure realy how to call it) reduced text of very interesting book. Only Astro trading info has been kept, the rest is irelevant for this thread. If you want complete book, DL from Scribd, search for Mystics of Sarvatobhadra Chakra... [Chi], or, if you prefer, original scan which has english names. Or e-mail me for semi-edited version.

The last part is of interest for all us Astro traders (bow). Lot of rules, and if you have read complete this thread, as some of us did, this is a neat summary (sort of).

Basicly, I belive, this is info Gann used. It is different version of SQ9. But you need to be familiar with Vedic Astrology, Jyotish, which I strongly recommend. Not only Market predictions, you gain invaluable insight into Life itself.

I am using Shri Jyoti Star 6 software for this particular work, but, if on budget, Maiteya or Jagannantha Hora, both free, will do.

Few more books on this topic are available, I am waiting for them...
If you have any question or want to donate me few thousand $ (LOL), feel free to contact me. Please use e-mail.

Besta regarda, boys & girls, ladies & gentlemen,

May the Light shine on us all,

Have fun,

Simon
S love nia

PS: Co., no need to be hars with 'Hey-this-thread-is-dead!' folks. Spread Love, not hate. Much more you gain.

Thank you, Oshawa, to share this with folks.

I have been watching the sky every night for last few years.

I am very pleased that this thread is growing stronger and friendlier, with lots of usefull astro info.

Venus transit (in front of Sun) will be THE event of 2012. I happens once in approx. 3 incarnations. Human, of course.

For those interested more, DL Stellarium. It will show you your local sky, past, present and future.

Full speed ahead, Capitan!

Simon

Good point. This is why I keep a Diary. Unfortunately, only for past few years, but hey, it is never too late! Well, maybe at the age of 79 and over. LOL

Viva l'Sti & Co.

Simon

Is there any chance that you can post or e-mail me the indicator that you are using?

Can each person post their primary methods? or an aspect?

JamesHong started with:

1. Transits To Natal, using conjunctions...
Moon 000 Jupiter = buy
Moon 000 Saturn = sell
Jupiter 000 Mercury = buy
Saturn 000 Mercury = sell

What methods are you using? What's best for intraday/daytrading? Please share an aspect...

I'd like to share one of my techniques...but it's so simple, it's Stupip!

So no thoughts from the panel on this relationship? Its not a very significant one, or its well known?
No one has any others relationships to share??

Or dont want to share? Im sure the thread will promise not to move the entire market if anyone has any other relationships, on any markets, to offer up for enlightenment

I am not the right person to answer this question but in the spirit of sharing and perhaps try to make this thread a little bit more informative I would say what I think.

Personally I don't rely on any single aspect much as I don't find them reliable. If you pick any days, you will find many aspects are there and unless one builds up an extensive library of historical data across markets (Sti..... that's your ball) it's hard to have confidence to use it. And there are times when multiple big aspects are in place and nothing much really happen in reaction, and markets still continue their original direction. Year 2010 is a great example (or perhaps is it 2011? can't remember), with various big aspects of this or that important planets all those reversal calls got blown beyond recognition because markets simply marched on relentlessly. And even if this or that aspect is really important, there might be other forces at work at the time too and so neutralises the impact. After all that dust has settled, one can of course look back on charts and say, hey, that turning point is perfect on this or that aspect, or if it doesn't work, then "that's why we use stops." It's of course legitimate but it doesn't work for me and I can't make it work. I trade on significant size and not on play size that a few losses caused by testing my faith would mean nothing but only play money. One weakness of many Gann/astro/cycle traders is IMHO that they all like to fade the markets. I would prefer to trade any potential turning point as a resumption of the trend and not try to pick tops and bottoms. There is nothing to prove to show that one picks the absolute top or bottom once in a while if one gets killed in the long march of markets, especially in trendy markets such as futures and commodities.

What I like to do is to use levels that can be mathematically calculated, and bearing in mind that certain days could be a potential cycle date (on daily timeframe, I don't like intraday aspects), and use this as an alert or confirmation of my other techniques. The timeframe I use on this is 1H or 4H bars in a weekly range as that's what my other stuff is based on. I scalpe on 1m-15m too, but I don't count on aspects to do that.

What I could suggest is that if one likes to play intraday aspects, one can always combine it with some exponentially calculated indicators such as CCI or RSI etc, with the trendline break on indicator and on price.. for confirmation. You will not get in on the exact pip (I don't think that should be one's ultimate objective anyway), but you will get in a much safer 'sure win' trade. I had a euro long this week that I got in at the exact pip, but that's a combination of quite a few other things together, not because I have enough faith in using any single aspect alone. And overall, I prefer to use it as an alert/confirmation.

I am perhaps a bit too honest for my own good by saying all this. But I think there are a lot of relatively inexperienced traders browsing forums like this. It's important to keep in mind that this will not work as a magic bullet if one doesn't have a solid grasp of traditional technical analysis like Dow Theory and have a solid trading system before one comes to flirting with Gann. And yes, when look back, things always look like magic. But it is in working and trading forward going charts then it is a totally different story.

Stupip.... now I shall be looking forward to your tips

just posting up something I made as I explore the potential correlations between planetary movements and the EUR/USD market

Chart is EUR/USD 4-hour

vertical lines indicate different aspects of Moon-Mercury since beginning of 2012

Red - 60*
Green - 90*
Blue - 120*
Purple - 180*
Yellow - 0*

all lines are placed based on time rounded to the nearest 5min. if the date occurred during the weekend, the line was placed at the first 5min candle of the next open.


haven't made any conclusions yet but something to look at

I Like it , Good Job
Looking forward to know ur view for next week.
My daily and 4H Almost on Line to turn to be Bullish while my weekly bearish and my bearish cycle not completed Yet "Conflicting "

Sorry Oshawa that I did not respond to this earlier, but I just today took the time to look into your recommendation, if understand you correctly then I can ask a simple question and you will understand why:

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Ganns method was not about aspects, but about cycles. Not any given aspect works, only the ones which are historically proven.
You have to think about the "law of vibration", what did he mean by that? When vibration changes, price changes....wtf is that?

So, take a cycle that works, mars-saturn for instance. In the chart I have 3 different lines.
1. The synodic cycle lines. These are the prices that are hit when saturn and mars travel through our solar system geocentric on the sq9. You see that almost every important price change hits on these lines.
2. The mars line. Price as it travels around the earth (0 and 180 deg)
3. The saturn line. Price as it travels around the earth (0 and 180 deg).

Then I have in the indicator window the moments of mars-saturn aspects 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees, and the red line is the average of all the planets.

Mars-Saturn is a very strong cycle, but not the only one that is active. The strongest is jupiter-saturn, I showed that one in an earlier post. Gann called this "cycle within a cycle" wheel within a wheel. Of course there are more for you to find

So, do you see on this chart where vibration changes? Do you see where price pulls towards?

Most people make the mistake of trying to pick the tops/bottoms. They trade against the marked based upon the aspects. That is not what Gann did, he traded towards an aspect and then reversed to trade towards another.

This hopefully answers a lot of questions...tpaul, oshawa, stupip...

Dear all,

Based on Oshawa's recommendation I crafted the following chart, it shows yearly open-close candles from 1971 to 2012

I'm not sure yet that it is workable, but i'll definetly run some tests on it.

Sti, mercury indeed had a big influence. It went retro and is about to conjunct again with everyones fav planet uranus.
It was the biggest influence last week apart from ven-jup.

In my experience, if wave a retraces to 38.2% wave c will hit 61.8%. But first there will be a retrace not to go below the origin of c.

yup not to mention the moon and the sun will join the party all in aries + the march equinox around that date as well.