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  • #341
  • Edited 9:49am Mar 10, 2012 7:40am | Edited 9:49am
DoingWell just picked up Subby and they are on their way to one of his favourite breakfast spots.


DoingWell: Before we drive off, I think I want to put the top down. It is such a beautiful day.

Subby: I love the sunshine. It is so invigorating.

DoingWell: I do too. Ahh...that's better. Now off we go.

Subby: Looks like the road is very clear this morning.

DoingWell: No problem for me. We'll get there sooner. So, have you heard from your brother lately?

Subby: No, I don't hear from him too often. I did try to keep in touch, but he does not like to respond I guess. There is no bad blood between us really, he just likes to run the show and be everyone's boss.

DoingWell: I can understand people like that. I've met a few in my lifetime. They can be difficult to deal with. Sometimes you just have to make them feel like they are the boss, but you really know better. (turning to wink at Subby)

Subby: Hmm...yeah that might work. It just gets me so upset...why people have to be that way. Anyhow, how have you been?

DoingWell: Been good...great as a matter of fact. Have been very focused on getting some things done...making progress. I just love driving up the coast on a sunny day, and looking at the ocean. It is so refreshing.

Subby: I agree (turning to look at the ocean). I don't think I ever asked you this question, but how did you meet NeverAgain?

DoingWell: (Laugh)...what a story. I had decided to get into golf...was told that it would be good for business, you know...to make connections. I was in the Insurance business at the time. So while at the golf course one day, I overheard some men talking about this guy who was giving them golfing lessons. I thought it might be good to take a few. So, I went to his office. At that time, he was just getting into the world of trading. He was also trying to apply some of his golfing techniques to trading...visualization techniques...and the market was eating him alive. He learned the hard way, but he learned. That's why I know he's good. I was being beaten up too in the market, but I never let on...at least not in the beginning. I was learning as he was venting his frustrations to me. Interestingly enough that is where I met my wife, Confident Thinker, Creative Thinker's older sister. Confident has helped me through so much. Her support has carried me a long way.

Subby: Wow...it's hard to imagine that NeverAgain had a trading battle. He is so clear-cut in his approach.

DoingWell: He's a fighter. Because of him, I am trading well now. Well we're here. Time for breakfast.


DoingWell and Subby make their way to the restaurant. We'll rejoin the conversation once they are seated.
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #342
  • Edited 9:59am Mar 10, 2012 8:13am | Edited 9:59am
DoingWell and Subby are finally seated. Took a little bit longer because they wanted a booth by the window with an ocean view.


Subby: I can see why this is one of your favourite spots. Such a pleasant place to enjoy a good meal.

DoingWell: I've been coming here for years. I like to come during the week with my wife when it's really empty. Let's look at he menu, shall we?


The waitress,PleasantAttitude, comes over and greets DoingWell. He introduces her to Subby. She places some freshly baked blueberry and banana-nut muffins on the table and some butter, then offers them coffee or tea.


Subby: I'll take some coffee please. (she pours Subby a cup)

DoingWell: I'd just like some water with a little lemon please PleasantAttitude...in fact, please also bring some extra lemon wedges too. Thanks.

Subby: (Looking over the menu) Everything looks so good, it's hard to choose. What are some of your favourites?

DoingWell: I like the lox and eggs with capers.

Subby: I was looking at that too. I think I will try the vegetable omelette. Is their bread good?

DoingWell: (Leaning forward) Is their bread good? They bake it fresh every morning, right here.

Subby: Great, think I 'll get the whole grain wheat with chopped walnuts. Mmm...


The waitress returns and takes the orders. Subby asks for more coffee.


DoingWell: Do you drink alot of coffee?

Subby: I won't say alot....some people drink 20 cups a day. I only drink about five or six.

DoingWell: I just got some information from a retired Chiropractor who also studied Neurology...here's what she said caffeine does to the brain:

About caffeine: a little a day is ok, but it does four bad things to the brain: 1. dehydrates it, 2, interferes with sleep, 3. constricts blood blow to the brain causing premature aging. 4. Its addictive.

Will have to email you the other stuff she said and also give you her contact information. A dehydrated brain can cause headaches. I think it also plays a part in depression and stress. It is said that about 85% of brain tissue is made up of water. You know, when athletes are training, they shouldn't eat any and everything. Some foods can affect your mood too: that's very important for traders. Too much sugar for example...not good. Successful athletes discipline themselves in every area, even in their choice of foods.

Subby: (In between bites of his muffin) Sometimes I do find it hard to sleep. Maybe I should stay away from coffee or find a better substitute.

DoingWell: Do you drink coffee for the caffeine or you just like the taste?

Subby: I have learned to enjoy the flavour, but at first I didn't like it at all.

Doingwell: Okay, we'll have to work on that a bit, and make sure you have a well-balanced, nutritious health regimen...trading athlete.


The waitress arrives with their breakfast orders.


DoingWell: Hope you have some time to spare when we're done here as I like to go and sit and watch the ocean.

Subby: Sure thing.


We'll pick things up again once they're done.
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #343
  • Edited Mar 11, 2012 9:45am Mar 10, 2012 8:48am | Edited Mar 11, 2012 9:45am
DoingWell and Subby have enjoyed their breakfast and are walking back to the car.


Subby: That was great! Good food, pleasant atmosphere, excellent company and an ocean view...couldn't ask for more.

DoingWell: Glad you enjoyed it. Now this is my favourite part. (as he opens the car trunk)

Subby: Boy, you do come prepared: beach chairs, caps and chilled water.

DoingWell: Today I think I will wear my Quietly Confident cap. I had all these different caps made. When I trade I put one on to remind myself of what I need to be like in my trading room. Don't know if NeverAgain gave you this tidbit, but he told me once to have a mirror across from me so I can see my facial expressions as I trade. Just another way to spy on my emotions. It helps...and the cap does too. So, pick one...these are new, just got them in yesterday.

Subby: I like this one...NeverAgain. (Laugh) I don't ever want to make the same mistake again as I did this past week.

DoingWell: Just do your best, no biggie. Okay, off we go to find a quiet spot to enjoy the sound of the ocean and to learn about it by just watching how it moves.


More conversation when they get there.
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #344
  • Mar 10, 2012 8:53am Mar 10, 2012 8:53am
Quoting FX4Newbies
I'm sure, 'cause you knew you were right yesterday. Part of the problem was that...{the method} you are trading is not for position trades; it is for scalping. The reason is, I want you to put on as many trades in as rapid succession as DoingWell's system would allow. Had you been doing a position trade....
Depending on how much emotional value you placed on the expectation, that will determine whether you feel hurt or pain. Will have to send you an email later on with information about emotional pain...how it can affect us.

Subby:...
Pivotal dialogue: Thanks.

A person's life events may lead to regular variations that exaggerate or block recognition of good emotional trading habits as you recommend:

  1. Trauma, overwhelmed easily in response to loss: needs enhanced ego response, to increase survival in self
  2. ordinary response to loss: a healthy ego that takes care of the pain of loss early
  3. Numbed response to loss: needs diminished ego response, to increase survival in environs

I guess Subby was temporarily in the third. I often find myself in the first in much of my life, and as a result look to trading for the third to seek balance. Neither is appropriate.

  • #345
  • Edited Mar 11, 2012 9:52am Mar 10, 2012 8:58am | Edited Mar 11, 2012 9:52am
DoingWell and Subby find a nice quiet spot to sit and enjoy the ocean.


DoingWell: I just like to sit here for a while and relax. This is one of my favourite spots to be refreshed. Is it okay if we just listen to the ocean for a bit?

Subby: Absolutely! Loving it already.

DoingWell: Ahhh...just listen to that ocean.


Inserted Video



After relaxing a bit...


DoingWell: I always find it fascinating how unique each wave is...where it starts; how fast it moves; how high it goes; and how close it comes to shore. Can't really see how deep it goes in the ocean, but I am sure that will be just as unique as well.

Subby: Very true. Just so amazing!

DoingWell: If you pay close attention, you can see the ones that have more momentum as they form. You can even tell which ones are going to be big ones. I guess a surfer has to pay attention to these details. Let's watch some more.


Watching the waves some more...


Subby: I notice that when a wave forms farther out, the momentum of that wave starts another wave. The size of that second wave depends on the size of the first wave, and then that one...the second one... proceeds to shore.

DoingWell: Very observant Subby. Notice also that as time goes by, one wave comes as another one goes. Life is a cycle. Don't ever allow yourself to get stuck with the residue of one life experience. Deal with it as best as you can and as quickly as you can and move on.

Subby: That is some sound wisdom. Thanks.

DoingWell: Looks like the sun is beginning to hide behind those clouds now. Think we better prepare to go. (as they stand and begin folding the chairs)

Subby: Isn't it interesting that no matter what the shape of the shore line is, the wave "knows" where to turn and go back? Maybe, the shape of the shore line is caused the wave? What do you think makes the ocean come and go like that...and it happens the same way all over the world.

DoingWell: I'm sure science has "an answer". I just like to keep things simple, especially the ones that seem pretty obvious to me: Somebody set it up that way. (with a wink)


Subby and DoingWell head back to the car. Subby is very relaxed...almost ready to fall asleep. He dozes off on the way home.


DoingWell: Okay Subby, you're home.

Subby: Already? (laughing) I must have been more tired than I thought. Thanks for everything. It was a great way to spend a Saturday morning.

DoingWell: Glad you had a good time. Please...keep the cap . Get some more rest and start again on Monday.

Subby: Will do and you take care.


We'll catch up with Subby when he updates NeverAgain later on tonight.

FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #346
  • Edited 5:44pm Mar 10, 2012 9:11am | Edited 5:44pm
Quoting ha-pattern
Pivotal dialogue: Thanks.

A person's life events may lead to regular variations that exaggerate or block recognition of good emotional trading habits as you recommend:

  1. Trauma, overwhelmed easily in response to loss: needs enhanced ego response, to increase survival in self
  2. ordinary response to loss: a healthy ego that takes care of the pain of loss early
  3. Numbed response to loss: needs diminished ego response, to increase survival in environs

I guess Subby was temporarily in the third. I often find myself in the first in...

Yes Ha-,

Subby found himself in a numbed response...among other things. Distractions during trading can break focus. Sometimes a person may even become "addicted" to the emotional effects of the trauma, because it becomes a "safe mode" from which to operate as that is what the person may have become used to: that conditioning again. The middle is the ideal. NeverAgain will be working with Subby on that Ego issue.

You said a mouthful here Ha-:

A person's life events may lead to regular variations that exaggerate or block recognition of good emotional trading habits...

FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #347
  • Edited 7:56pm Mar 10, 2012 7:25pm | Edited 7:56pm
Subby put in a call to NeverAgain and left a message letting him know that the breakfast meeting with DoingWell was great. He's still taking it easy....

FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #348
  • Mar 11, 2012 3:46am Mar 11, 2012 3:46am
Subby begins his trading journey again at the London open on Monday...if all goes well. I'm sure he'll be getting in touch with NeverAgain if any of these emotional magnets try to pull on him.

FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #349
  • Edited 11:10am Mar 11, 2012 10:21am | Edited 11:10am
An edit to an earlier comment by Subby...

I was in the process of polishing up the dialogue between Subby and DoingWell as they were watching the ocean and ran out of editing time (my 1440 minutes were up)...

Subby: Isn't it interesting that no matter what the shape of the shoreline is, the wave "knows" where to turn and go back? Maybe, the shape of the shoreline is caused by the wave? What do you think makes the ocean come and go like that...and it happens the same way all over the world.

DoingWell: I'm sure science has "an answer". I just like to keep things simple, especially the ones that seem pretty obvious to me: Somebody set it up that way. (with a wink)


The text in blue got deleted. I am sure most of you would have figured it out easily...just wanted to make sure it was clear for all.

We'll see how Subby trades this week. Not sure he'll start at London open, but he'll start when he's ready.

Wishing you all a great trading week too .

FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #350
  • Edited Mar 12, 2012 3:25am Mar 11, 2012 10:48am | Edited Mar 12, 2012 3:25am
NeverAgain calls DoingWell after checking his messages...

Ring-ring; Ring-ring; Ring-ring....Ring-ring; Ring-ring; Ring-r....


DoingWell: DoingWell here.

NeverAgain: DoingWell, it's NeverAgain. How are you today?

DoingWell: Just great. How 'bout yourself.

NeverAgain: Can't complain.

NeverAgain: Just wanted to touch bases with you. Got a message from Subby. He said he enjoyed the breakfast meeting yesterday and that things went well.

DoingWell: Yes, it was really wonderful: time well spent. He made some very good observations as we were relaxing watching the ocean breathe.

NeverAgain: Do you think he saw "it"?

DoingWell: Hard to say. He didn't make any statements that indicated that he made direct or obvious connections, but we'll see.

NeverAgain: I won't say anything yet. I'll give him the week to see if he gets it or not. If not, I'll call him on Friday and meet with him again.

DoingWell: Sounds good. I like Subby. He is very teachable and perceptive. Very glad I picked him.

NeverAgain: I agree. Alright DoingWell, don't want to take up any more of your time today. You were probably in the middle of something...

DoingWell: (Laughing)...yes I was. Thanks for the call.

NeverAgain: Sure thing Chief. Have a good week.

DoingWell: You too. Bye.

NeverAgain: Bye.


Did you get "it"? We'll see if Subby actually did.

FX4...
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #351
  • Edited 1:52pm Mar 12, 2012 1:40pm | Edited 1:52pm
Ha-Pattern,

Where did your post go? Just saw it and had this reply...

No need to apologize because you did not interrupt the flow. I try to leave some openings for posts from readers as I go. Subby is trading this week and trying to get back on track. NeverAgain will hear from him soon enough I'm sure . Will reply to your posts later.

Please put it back. I have the initial content of your post in my email. Let me know what you'd like do do.

Thanks,

FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #352
  • Edited 1:58pm Mar 12, 2012 1:56pm | Edited 1:58pm
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no matter what the shape of the shoreline is, the wave "knows" where to turn and go back? Maybe, the shape of the shoreline is caused by the wave? What do you think makes the ocean come and go like that...and it happens the same way all over the world.


--

This gets me to thinking about a couple of things.^

Our body is 70% water. Peristalsis, or muscles rolling in waves to move an object, is a big thing with the stomach (gastrointestinal system). We eat when nervous about the affect of other things, or rock back and forward in a fight-or-flight response; or, the cerebrospinal fluid create gentle undulations around the spine to the kundalini point or moves less-so around stuck vertebrae.
It's all wave functions, somehow.
On land, it may be more about the solid object. Not curves, straight lines. Just recently, I made up some variables (that may relate also to the structure of conversation in your posts) that categorize complete thoughts people convey thru talk to each other in order to move them about: boundary,entrance,acceptance,continuance.
Now, I see it as somehow related to the waves discussion you brought up, maybe just as curves auditory to straight lines visual in sense mapping in the brain.

I don't know, just exploring the idea.

--

Interested in the rest of your posts' conversations.









^ links about waves:1,2,3,4,5








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Wait....


Now that I think about it,
what you may be saying is that S., in your conversations, only has to think intelligently about the waves.
It's not necessarily what he thinks about, so long as his focus is on them.
Earlier, S. got distracted with news instead of chart.

-- This realization, whether or not it's correct, took me almost a day to figure.

A professor once told me, "Knowledge is free".
Now I understand what was left off: "It's the leverage that costs."



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Apologies, this is also a problem I have, missing the point.
I'll try not to interrupt.
  • #353
  • Edited 4:21pm Mar 12, 2012 2:23pm | Edited 4:21pm
Quoting ha-pattern
On land, it may be more about the solid object. Not curves, straight lines.
Thanks Ha-Pattern,

Will get back to the other points in your posts probably later this evening. This got my attention though...the thought of curves...

Auxesis made an interesting point some time ago about using curved lines in trading. Here was his statement:

A very wise trader once told me, no one walks through a forest in a straight line less he collects many bumps and bruises on his journey......arcs or ellipses are a better way to chart.

Just posting this chart and image to spark some thoughts. Not going down a TA path here...just thought it might be of interest while Subby trades . There is something in the waves that we see in trading. The ocean just made it more vivid by seeing it in nature. It will also become the next step in the process NeverAgain has him going through. Just having a little fun right now .

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  • #354
  • Mar 12, 2012 2:32pm Mar 12, 2012 2:32pm
Quoting FX4Newbies
Thanks Ha-Pattern,

Will get back to the other points in your posts probably later this evening. This got my attention though...the thought of curves...

Auxesis made an interesting point some time ago about using curved lines in trading. Here was is statement:

A very wise trader once told me, no one walks through a forest in a straight line less he collects many bumps and bruises on his journey......arcs or ellipses are a better way to chart.

Just...
maybe you get too creative here? Not sure, if it is wise to superimpose the waves a drop creates in a 3D environment to a 2D chart which represents a price-time relationship. Not much link there.
  • #355
  • Mar 12, 2012 2:34pm Mar 12, 2012 2:34pm
Quoting ha-pattern
Now that I think about it,
what you may be saying is that S., in your conversations, only has to think intelligently about the waves.
It's not necessarily what he thinks about, so long as his focus is on them.
Earlier, S. got distracted with news instead of chart.
There is a key that Subby is going to get in the next step of his training. Some traders may already be doing it, but the waves demonstrate it so clearly...among other things. DoingWell made some comments, just don't know if Subby caught it, but he was looking right at it.

FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #356
  • Mar 12, 2012 2:39pm Mar 12, 2012 2:39pm
Quoting Custos
maybe you get too creative here? Not sure, if it is wise to superimpose the waves a drop creates in a 3D environment to a 2D chart which represents a price-time relationship. Not much link there.
Yes. One is 2-D, the other 3-D. If you remove the third dimension one can see the similarity in the idea of the ellipses. The ripples in both cases will travel in a similar manner time-wise as well. Not necessarily in the same time, but it's the idea I'm having fun with while Subby is coming around to something.

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Just having a little fun right now .
FX4
Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #357
  • Mar 12, 2012 2:50pm Mar 12, 2012 2:50pm
Quoting FX4Newbies
Yes. One is 2-D, the other 3-D. If you remove the third dimension one can see the similarity in the idea of ellipses. The ripples in both cases will travel in a similar manner time-wise as well. Not necessarily in the same time, but it's the idea I'm having fun with.

FX4
Let me put it another way. What is missing in your 3D picture? TIME. If you also included time there, then the waves would travel each time-unit and never stay the same, however since you apply it on the 2D chart it seems you suggest that there the waves would stay steady.

What is missing in your 2D chart? At least one more dimension that is NOT time. If you apply the wave concept of your 3D picture on a chart that is BASED on time, then that suggests the time factor of the 2D chart is working completely differently (a steady wave that is not moving) than on a 3D chart + time.

Not sure if you get what I mean so I make it short: if you apply time to the 3D picture, then the waves are not steady but travelling. If you look at the 2D chart, then your way of applying it suggests that in this case the wave stays steady over time and doesn't move.

In both cases you would have the time component, but one chart suggests that a wave stays steady and one suggests that it is moving.

P.S.: I am still thinking that whole concept is a bit too creative.
  • #358
  • Edited 4:37pm Mar 12, 2012 2:55pm | Edited 4:37pm
Quoting Custos
Let me put it another way. What is missing in your 3D picture? TIME. If you also included time there, then the waves would travel each time-unit and never stay the same, however since you apply it on the 2D chart it seems you suggest that there the waves would stay steady.

What is missing in your 2D chart? At least one more dimension that is NOT time. If you apply the wave concept of your 3D picture on a chart that is BASED on time, then that suggests the time factor of the 2D chart is working completely differently (a steady wave that is not moving)...
Got your point and that is true. In the chart though, price action is what we expect to see as the moving force through time. In the 2-D chart, price is "honouring" the elliptical lines that are fixed as it goes, which are based on Fib numbers: nature. With the 3-D image you don't see the force creating the ripples (the elliptical lines), just the ripples, which probably have some correlation to Fib numbers as well. The ripples come as the force travels through time. In the 3-D picture time is understood...it's a given.

Quoting Custos
P.S.: I am still thinking that whole concept is a bit too creative.
Maybe, but do you see the similarity in the way the lines appear between the two images? If those elliptical Fib lines "work" and resonate with price action when it gets there (self-fulfilling maybe), maybe the "market" is mirroring something from nature that might resonate naturally in humans. Not trying to map this thing out exactly. I was just fascinated by the similarities in the appearance.

Think you lost me here...

however since you apply it on the 2D chart it seems you suggest that there the waves would stay steady.

I'm not really applying anything...just showing a similarity that I think is fairly obvious.

Appreciate the thought and input. Will chew on it some more later. Waiting for Subby to go a step further .

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  • #359
  • Edited 3:55pm Mar 12, 2012 3:07pm | Edited 3:55pm
Quoting ha-pattern
This gets me to thinking about a couple of things.

Our body is 70% water. Peristalsis, or muscles rolling in waves to move an object, is a big thing with the stomach (gastrointestinal system). We eat when nervous about the affect of other things, or rock back and forward in a fight-or-flight response; or, the cerebrospinal fluid create gentle undulations around the spine to the kundalini point or moves less-so around stuck vertebrae.
It's all wave functions, somehow.
On land, it may be more about the solid object. Not curves,...
Okay Ha-,

Just piggie-backing on your idea of waves, vibrations etc....Resonance Theory. Wiki made this point about resonance using the idea of a swing:

Pushing a person in a swing in time with the natural interval of the swing (its resonant frequency) will make the swing go higher and higher (maximum amplitude), while attempts to push the swing at a faster or slower tempo will result in smaller arcs. This is because the energy the swing absorbs is maximized when the pushes are 'in phase' with the swing's oscillations, while some of the swing's energy is actually extracted by the opposing force of the pushes when they are not.

When Subby gets back in the picture, let's see if there is anything that NeverAgain can use to make emotional trading sense of all of this to him .

Dongsky made an interesting point about how he trades...he tends to watch price action until he "feels" it. He actually tries to pick up the moves of price action... then he dances with it (price that is); he flows the way it flows. What is he using to "feel" it? How do surfers do it...no indicators to tell them when to ride the waves etc?

Auxesis made this point earlier:

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I remember a charting session I had with one of my first mentors, long time ago, a gentleman who gave much of his time to help and became a very good friend, we were discussing fibs ratios, he said that we were approaching the .618 retracement of the last leg. I spouted off that he must have had that plotted on another chart as the current chart we were studying didn't have it marked, i pulled up the fibs and sure enough we were just a few pips from being there.

He didn't have the fibs marked on his chart, he didn't need too......, after literally drawing thousands upon thousands of charts, he could visually gauge a pullback or extension.

If one can last long enough in these markets they will find that it doesn't matter what tool is used, the brain will start to process the information, the markets slowing down, it's coiling, it's breaking out, it's reversing, it's a fake..... that is if we allow our brains to function.
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I'm beginning to think if we can fine-tune Subby to the "right frequency", his trading might improve greatly and with less effort. What is the "right frequency"? I wonder if NeverAgain knows .
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Trade what you see, not what you think or feel. Let the market come to you.
  • #360
  • Edited 4:39pm Mar 12, 2012 4:03pm | Edited 4:39pm
Subby's thinking...

Okay, I can see what DoingWell sees when he trades, but why does it feel so stressful...like I'm walking on a high-wire or something. It just doesn't feel natural. When I was watching those waves on Saturday...it was a breeze. It was like I picked up the rhythm of the ocean..on the inside.

So far NeverAgain has me scalping, trading using M5 and M1. It works and I can work it, but it's a fight. Wonder what it would feel like to use M15 and M5. Let's see. Wow, that feels a little better. Would I be able to see the same things I saw before so I would know when to place the trade?

Subby observes the charts, paying attention to the movement of the candles for about an hour...

Wow, there it is...the same thing! Think I need to give NeverAgain a call. Maybe I'll call him after dinner. He should be free by then to chat a bit.
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