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  • #21
  • Mar 3, 2012 3:49am Mar 3, 2012 3:49am
Quoting pipmutt
Yeah I think we were supposed to be impressed
yeah, the smartest guys I have met have always expressed their thoughts and ideas in a very clear and concise manner. The ones that just wanted to sound smart have been as cryptic as crucialpoint. In the end there was no substance behind their words.
  • #22
  • Mar 3, 2012 6:16pm Mar 3, 2012 6:16pm
hurrr hurrr yeah hurrr hurrrr..... idiots.

i've never had a single new idea form after reading anyone's posts on this forsaken forum, except after reading crucial points posts. for all of his 'cryptic' talk there is more substance in a single post of his than entire threads in this joint. now if he is just trolling then what does that suggest about the level of posts throughout the rest of the forum. what a boring sorry state of affairs

bring on the 'cryptic' talk. bring on the trolling, if that is what you think it is. bring on something fresh instead of the same old shit.

hurrrrrrrr durrrrr derp.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #23
  • Mar 3, 2012 11:30pm Mar 3, 2012 11:30pm
Quoting nubcake

i've never had a single new idea form after reading anyone's posts on this forsaken forum, except after reading crucial points posts.
Dunno haven't read his other posts, I was replying to his posts in this thread which say absolutely zero.


Quoting nubcake

what does that suggest about the level of posts throughout the rest of the forum.
Seriously, you really need an answer to that?


Quoting nubcake

bring on something fresh instead of the same old shit.
Go for it!


Wassup Nubs, you running out of victims around here......
  • #24
  • Mar 4, 2012 2:46am Mar 4, 2012 2:46am
Quoting pipmutt
Dunno haven't read his other posts, I was replying to his posts in this thread which say absolutely zero.
well then maybe you should do some reading instead of just yahuhing custos's little world of whatever. you'll probably get nothing from it, yet that will still be more than presented anywhere else.

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Seriously, you really need an answer to that?

seriously, i wasn't actually asking.

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Go for it!

you are welcome.

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Wassup Nubs, you running out of victims around here......

as if that's even possible.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #25
  • Mar 4, 2012 2:54am Mar 4, 2012 2:54am
Quoting nubcake
well then maybe you should do some reading instead of just yahuhing custos's little world of whatever. you'll probably get nothing from it, yet that will still be more than presented anywhere else.



seriously, i wasn't actually asking.



you are welcome.



as if that's even possible.
hey, welcome back. I see they let you out of your cage again!
  • #26
  • Mar 4, 2012 3:16am Mar 4, 2012 3:16am
Quoting Custos
hey, welcome back. I see they let you out of your cage again!
why wouldn't i be let out to roam amongst the sheep? i think i've spent a total of 24hrs in the naughty corner. all other time i'm not around is because i just can't handle giving myself a lobotomy to be around.

(looks for the gun@head emote)
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #27
  • Mar 4, 2012 3:18am Mar 4, 2012 3:18am
Quoting nubcake

well then maybe you should do some reading
I'm not sure I'd really want to follow the 'wisdom' of someone who says they doubled a 5k debt in 10 days!

http://i42.tinypic.com/14kf79x.jpg


Quoting nubcake

seriously, i wasn't actually asking.
You wrote "what does that suggest about the level of posts throughout the rest of the forum". Rhetorical or not it's still a question


Quoting nubcake

as if that's even possible.
I'll rephrase, victims who take your spleen venting with anything more than a pinch of salt. I'm sure there are plenty of threads more worthy of a vent than this one!
  • #28
  • Mar 4, 2012 3:29am Mar 4, 2012 3:29am
Quoting pipmutt
I'm not sure I'd really want to follow the 'wisdom' of someone who says they doubled a 5k debt in 10 days!

http://i42.tinypic.com/14kf79x.jpg
Only thing I am wondering is, why did he not get a margin call? Must have been a crappy broker or the story is just not true.
  • #29
  • Mar 4, 2012 3:48am Mar 4, 2012 3:48am
Quoting Custos

Only thing I am wondering is, why did he not get a margin call? Must have been a crappy broker or the story is just not true.
At the risk of incurring Nub's wrath by yahuhing (yahuhing, sounds painful whatever it is!)....

Maybe that trading autobiog explains why some of his posts appear so cryptic!
  • #30
  • Mar 4, 2012 7:30pm Mar 4, 2012 7:30pm
According to my understanding

Time & Money were both made by Human Beings . ( and the funny thing is he worried about both )
In nature these things do not exists . Time was made simply to fulfill the third requirement of Meeting with some body .
Let say if i want to meet u
I would require 3 variables which have constant value
x = longitude
y = latitude
z = Time
All of above are just reference point in their own degree of measurement.

and money was simply made to measure prosperity .
To make sense of this vast irregular universe we made regular measurements ( x inch, x kg, x ltr, x km, x light yr and so on ) to measure it.

Human being came out of this world, he didn't came into this world .
As the apple tree apples the same way earth peoples .
As human being has come out of this earth what ever he does, how ever he does all will be governed by the fundamental principals of this environment.

When it comes to Trading there is a lot of subjectivity which is almost a irregular event . Now to measure this irregular event we need something regular like Price , Time etc... Again price and time are just reference points to measure .

In Fundamental trading what regular measurements of human emotions can a person use to take a position ???


Interest rate , jobs etc are very subjective .



CrucialPoint talks about Newton Laws , Newton didn't invented anything he discovered what was already there in our environment.


In the same manner i think where he wants to point us, is in the direction of discovery ..... discovering ourselves as trader and discovering our environment in which we trade ( whether its self discipline balanced fear and greed or the fundamental principals which govern the universe like newton law )
  • #31
  • Mar 4, 2012 10:16pm Mar 4, 2012 10:16pm
what? time was made by human beings? You need to do a reality check, my friend.

and if you think that money was made to measure prosperity, then you really have a screw loose. Money substitutes barter and thus allows for a more efficient exchange. That was the reason why money was invented.

Quoting shek81
[color=Blue]According to my understanding

Time & Money were both made by Human Beings . ( and the funny thing is he worried about both )
In nature these things do not exists . Time was made simply to fulfill the third requirement of Meeting with some body .
Let say if i want to meet u
I would require 3 variables which have constant value
x = longitude
y = latitude
z = Time
All of above are just reference point in their own degree of measurement.

and money was simply made to measure prosperity .
To make sense of this vast irregular universe...
  • #32
  • Mar 5, 2012 1:22am Mar 5, 2012 1:22am
Quoting shek81

money was simply made to measure prosperity
lol who told you that, or did you just make it up?

"Money is a matter of functions four, a medium, a measure, a standard, a store"


Quoting shek81

When it comes to Trading there is a lot of subjectivity which is almost a irregular event . Now to measure this irregular event we need something regular like Price , Time etc... Again price and time are just reference points to measure .

In Fundamental trading what regular measurements of human emotions can a person use to take a position ???


Interest rate , jobs etc are very subjective .
It's that subjectivity which makes a market



Quoting shek81
In the same manner i think where he wants to point us, is in the direction of discovery ..... discovering ourselves as trader and discovering our environment in which we trade
It's difficult to know where he wants to point us, I'm not even sure he knows himself!
  • #33
  • Mar 5, 2012 8:26am Mar 5, 2012 8:26am
Hey mate! Hows it going?


Quoting Custos
yeah, the smartest guys I have met have always expressed their thoughts and ideas in a very clear and concise manner. The ones that just wanted to sound smart have been as cryptic as crucialpoint. In the end there was no substance behind their words.
hmm....yes and no.

Its catch 22 in the end because who is going to be clear and concise with 'implementable' information without giving it all out?

Some of the smartest guys I know will be straight forward, but at the same time, others wont. I suppose in the end each person has their own way of being 'straight-forward' be it with 'hints' or whatever.

Either way, it depends on how you look at it

Who would of thought standing outside having a cigarette with the wind blowing in my face, constantly changing direction, give me one of my biggest epiphanies?
  • #34
  • Mar 6, 2012 6:48pm Mar 6, 2012 6:48pm
Quoting Custos
what? time was made by human beings? You need to do a reality check, my friend.
In Nature there is Rhythm and Motion .
Time is way of measuring that Motion by comparing motion with some sort of Constant and to derive that constant , time is a circle marked out in 360 degree. A pointer revolves around that circle at a regular speed and that gives us the constant with which we compare all kinds of motion.

The funny thing is you can have as many pointers or clock hand as u want all revolving around that circle with different regular speed which will always give a constant value. Like micro second , seconds hand , minute hand , hourly hand , day , month ,year ....... light year ......and keep going till infinity .

I believe that is why time is infinite because u can put infinite number of pointers to measure it .

The Sun does not rises because its 7 am . 7 am is just a constant derived from the motion of Earth around Sun . When there is a change in that motion because of tilted axis of earth and winters come we simply adjust that constant and call it Day Light Saving change .

Past and Future are just illusions which exists in Present ,Which is what there is and all there is .

Living in Present is the only way because only then u can put 100 % of ur effort on the task in hand . Same goes for the trading .
  • #35
  • Mar 6, 2012 7:07pm Mar 6, 2012 7:07pm
Quoting pipmutt
lol who told you that, or did you just make it up?

"Money is a matter of functions four, a medium, a measure, a standard, a store"
I agree with four functions .

Money itself is very subjective . For some people time is money ,for some its their Skill and for some money is Wealth .
  • #36
  • Mar 13, 2012 1:17am Mar 13, 2012 1:17am

I have a question. Anyone of you leads the system of notes with messages you read? Is taking that kind of notes can be useful to better understanding what is going on in the world?

Now i`m part time trader so i`d like to get some wisdom on what is going on the world, and then trade along technical (the price) and fundamental ( the direction)
  • #37
  • Mar 13, 2012 8:00am Mar 13, 2012 8:00am
I think that only short term trading can be based on fundamental analysis. Remember this ; NEWS ARE NOISE / manipulation ! Stay out of the market when important economic data is released.
  • #38
  • Mar 13, 2012 11:26am Mar 13, 2012 11:26am
Quoting mr.gardner

I think that only short term trading can be based on fundamental analysis. Remember this ; NEWS ARE NOISE / manipulation ! Stay out of the market when important economic data is released.
Snoozefest
  • #39
  • Mar 13, 2012 11:59am Mar 13, 2012 11:59am
Quoting mr.gardner
I think that only short term trading can be based on fundamental analysis. Remember this ; NEWS ARE NOISE / manipulation ! Stay out of the market when important economic data is released.
newbie crap
  • #40
  • Mar 15, 2012 6:32am Mar 15, 2012 6:32am
Newbie crap ? hm.. take a look at the article below and then we can discuss again.

http://www.dailyfx.com/forex/educati...ket_Noise.html

HF
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