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  • #941
  • Feb 21, 2012 10:49am Feb 21, 2012 10:49am
Quoting lillelise
Hmm how would you improve a method or system ,where there is no right or wrong way to do it ????

and if it should happen your not the same guy..as the other nicks.
dont be fooled..no one of them are trading live.

No doubt you can have great luck for some time..turning the trades around with greater lots...same as martingale..but sooner or later the big numbers gonna hit you..
well, if we put or smart heads together maybe we could come up with something? is that so far fetched? but ofcourse if there are only dumb heads around it's just going to make the soup worse
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #942
  • Feb 21, 2012 10:56am Feb 21, 2012 10:56am
don't have a personal issue with brijon, but with his communication

this so-called method/system does NOT solve a fundamental question.

what question? it's been repeated many times, and i don't need to do it again

but i present a situation here, tell me "how to solve the case" in a frank and direct manner. don't use "control", "wait", or "look it in a different way".

a case example:

start with 0.01 lot, 8 pairs, good

now 0.04 lot, 2 pairs, so far so good

......

continuing

another 0.04 lot, 2 pairs, xxxxxx and yyyyyy.

now, xxxxxx and yyyyyy start trending AGAINST you, and never come back, NEVER!

what to do?

Have any PB trader thought of this? or answered this?

I don't think so, chip might have implied or been reluctant to face it.

The answer is plain simple, you cut the crap xxxxxx and yyyyyy early. the PB traders eluding this iron answer only shows that either this system is flawed or their mindset is.

the market sometimes is very generous in a way letting you earn tons of pips in this umbiguous way for quite a few months. it is very normal. but if PB traders believe that by "controlling the DD" they can survive for long and make a fortune. that'll be ......

all in all, back to my case, how to you solve it? u hedge? u take profit on other pairs all the way? no, not good enough...... i do agree that ultimately, this is just a mindset, this is far from being a system since there are too many stochastic involved.

just a reminder for those who attempt to trade LIVE on this.

Quoting moodybot
A 70 plus year old man places a method on here for people to try, so once again, come clean lilliesse, is it the method or the person who placed it on here that you have a problem with?
  • #943
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:02am Feb 21, 2012 11:02am
Quoting lillelise
Please moody.....can you be nice to explain the method ?

like when you reach your max dd limit....what makes it freeze at that point ? so the dd not just continue further ??

and if i understand you right..when you have some pairs in dd you just wait for your cycle to turn around ??

and so on ..
First of all read the thread, which you havn't done so far.

I do not use the 10 pairs on demo or live, i use an indicator, available on this thread or just about any other forex forum., the only dd I get are from individual trades that I place based on the indicator.

If I get too much dd it still doesnt matter.

I can lock my dd anytime if it goes against me, at this exact moment I have my dd locked, you know exactly how to do this, so why ask.

Its explained numerous times in the thread, I use group exposure to balance shorts/ longs if im in dd, once a trend develops, then add to the relevant side., its no different to any other system.

If you want to see loss profit loss, then download a broker mt4 platform and run the script thats available on this thread and just watch it.
  • #944
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:11am Feb 21, 2012 11:11am
Quoting moodybot
First of all read the thread, which you havn't done so far.

I do not use the 10 pairs on demo or live, i use an indicator, available on this thread or just about any other forex forum., the only dd I get are from individual trades that I place based on the indicator.

If I get too much dd it still doesnt matter.

I can lock my dd anytime if it goes against me, at this exact moment I have my dd locked, you know exactly how to do this, so why ask.

Its explained numerous times in the thread, I use group exposure to balance shorts/ longs if im in...

you fool your self if you realy belive there is such a thing as loss,profit,loss,,cycle....

locking dd is just taking the loss...

so basicly you try to catch the trend...nothing wrong with that...

As charvo says cut the crap......if you say you trade it..you use some rules..and its possibel to explain....

if not you use your feelings,6senzth or so then its ofcourse a different matter...
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #945
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:22am Feb 21, 2012 11:22am
Quoting lillelise

you fool your self if you realy belive there is such a thing as loss,profit,loss,,cycle....

locking dd is just taking the loss...

so basicly you try to catch the trend...nothing wrong with that...

As charvo says cut the crap......if you say you trade it..you use some rules..and its possibel to explain....

if not you use your feelings,6senzth or so then its ofcourse a different matter...
Have you placed the script yet?

Are you going to bother?
  • #946
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:34am Feb 21, 2012 11:34am
Quoting moodybot
Have you placed the script yet?

Are you going to bother?
Moodybot
For such a crappy method it sure brings out the add nothing, insult everyone, ego driven, usual suspects...like moths to a light.
If they READ the thread they would read the answers to DD.
They chose not to because they are Beagles and we know about them.
Enough said
  • #947
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:35am Feb 21, 2012 11:35am
Quoting moodybot
Have you placed the script yet?

Are you going to bother?
why not....if you wanna make an experiment...i place the indicator..

and you begin a new account...and make a screenshot everytime you make a entry or take profit...locking dd.. ( ofcourse right away when you enter or entry ,for obvious reasons )

with an explanition why..you do this or that...


deal ?
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #948
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:37am Feb 21, 2012 11:37am
Quoting courtneywild
Moodybot
For such a crappy method it sure brings out the add nothing, insult everyone, ego driven, usual suspects...like moths to a light.
If they READ the thread they would read the answers to DD.
They chose not to because they are Beagles and we know about them.
Enough said

Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to our discussion....?

your so negative
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #949
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:41am Feb 21, 2012 11:41am
Quoting lillelise

Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to our discussion....?

your so negative
I have read many of your posts on many threads, you should take a long hard look in the mirror. Shameful.
  • #950
  • Feb 21, 2012 11:53am Feb 21, 2012 11:53am
Quoting courtneywild
I have read many of your posts on many threads, you should take a long hard look in the mirror. Shameful.
same as usually with gurus threads....and their followers (crews )

if one ask the wrong questions.. your a thread destreuer and negative..

i came with an offer for moody...

i can even open a demo...then post the screen shot every evening...and he/you can tell me what to do......then we should soon see that account in profit....

isent that very constructive ???
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #951
  • Feb 21, 2012 12:11pm Feb 21, 2012 12:11pm
Quoting lillelise
same as usually with gurus threads....and their followers (crews )

if one ask the wrong questions.. your a thread destreuer and negative..

i came with an offer for moody...

i can even open a demo...then post the screen shot every evening...and he/you can tell me what to do......then we should soon see that account in profit....

isent that very constructive ???
Ok, so you place a screenshot of the demo... how about this, you place the hedge on a demo, add hopwoods money management bot set to take profit for the basket, just say a couple of dollars, be realistic with it but use something sensible, and then leave it.

All we want to see is if it will cycle through from loss at placement of the hedge through to a profit, mptm should close down the basket.

If you dont use mptm then you might unfortnately miss the part where it moves into profit.

Why not try it... what have you got to lose.
  • #952
  • Feb 21, 2012 12:35pm Feb 21, 2012 12:35pm
Quoting moodybot
Ok, so you place a screenshot of the demo... how about this, you place the hedge on a demo, add hopwoods money management bot set to take profit for the basket, just say a couple of dollars, be realistic with it but use something sensible, and then leave it.

All we want to see is if it will cycle through from loss at placement of the hedge through to a profit, mptm should close down the basket.

If you dont use mptm then you might unfortnately miss the part where it moves into profit.

Why not try it... what have you got to lose.
you need to be more specific...

please post links to excatly witch ea/bot and witch hedge you suggest i use....th

ps.do i have to understand it..that only thing i need is the hedge/basket and then i cant lose ??
maby i understanded wrong ,but i got the impression you needed to interact by trading ..??
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #953
  • Feb 21, 2012 12:46pm Feb 21, 2012 12:46pm
Quoting lillelise
you need to be more specific...

please post links to excatly witch ea/bot and witch hedge you suggest i use....th

ps.do i have to understand it..that only thing i need is the hedge/basket and then i cant lose ??
maby i understanded wrong ,but i got the impression you needed to interact by trading ..??

Time for you to do some research then, everyone else does.

With 670 odd posts im sure you know how to search the forums.
  • #954
  • Feb 21, 2012 12:50pm Feb 21, 2012 12:50pm
Quoting moodybot
Time for you to do some research then, everyone else does.

With 670 odd posts im sure you know how to search the forums.

come on moody...dont be like this.....

is it your 14 pairs basket or the usd jpy basket thing ??

and by hopwoods mptm thing ,,,do you mean an ea that closes account if in profit ??

or some who trade for you ???
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #955
  • Feb 21, 2012 12:56pm Feb 21, 2012 12:56pm
I do not use the 10 pairs on demo or live, i use an indicator, available on this thread or just about any other forex forum., the only dd I get are from individual trades that I place based on the indicator.

If I get too much dd it still doesnt matter.

I can lock my dd anytime if it goes against me, at this exact moment I have my dd locked, you know exactly how to do this, so why ask.

Its explained numerous times in the thread, I use group exposure to balance shorts/ longs if im in dd, once a trend develops, then add to the relevant side., its no different to any other system.

i guess its the samir indi you use.....

what about i open a demo ,put on the indy....post a screen shot ..then you tell me what to do....next day i post the screen with the trades on, again...and so on. ???
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #956
  • Feb 21, 2012 1:52pm Feb 21, 2012 1:52pm
Quoting lillelise
I do not use the 10 pairs on demo or live, i use an indicator, available on this thread or just about any other forex forum., the only dd I get are from individual trades that I place based on the indicator.

If I get too much dd it still doesnt matter.

I can lock my dd anytime if it goes against me, at this exact moment I have my dd locked, you know exactly how to do this, so why ask.

Its explained numerous times in the thread, I use group exposure to balance shorts/ longs if im in dd, once a trend develops, then add to the relevant side.,...
How about reading the thread and trying it for yourself, then report back.

Find the script, run it and see how you get on.

Thats what everyone else has done.
  • #957
  • Feb 21, 2012 2:23pm Feb 21, 2012 2:23pm
LOL here you got the opertunity to prove the doubters that they are completly wrong.....

and then you denie the chance to use it.......

That came as a big surprise ( not )


case closed....
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #958
  • Feb 21, 2012 4:24pm Feb 21, 2012 4:24pm
Quoting lillelise
LOL here you got the opertunity to prove the doubters that they are completly wrong.....

and then you denie the chance to use it.......

That came as a big surprise ( not )


case closed....
He you go mate.

Dug the script out from somewhere within this thread, havn't used it myself but it seems to load up ok.

Place the pitbull script in the experts script folder and the EA script in the preset folder, im sure you know how to do it.

The script is set to 0.01and this one places 14 pairs, there is a 10 pair around somewhere, set mptm to take a basket profit of $5.00 as per the file.
Couldn't get it to load straight from metatrader so you will have to at your convinience load it up manually.

And thats about it, so good luck and im sure you will let us all know how it goes.
Attached File(s)
File Type: csv mptm.csv   5 KB | 454 downloads
File Type: mq4 Multi purpose trade manager.mq4   100 KB | 433 downloads
File Type: mq4 pitBullScript(1).mq4   2 KB | 435 downloads
  • #959
  • Feb 21, 2012 4:57pm Feb 21, 2012 4:57pm
I was going to post a long frustarted reply in here to all those posters trashing this method, but I wonder...

How about this would any one of you care to actually engage in an intelectual conversation.

There are some that did post opinions that are founded in logic, not just some silly rolling characters or similiar.

I dont think that many of you just criticizing this methodology have bothered to look at any of brian's videos past the first few minutes. I would see that the pitbull, print money etc was simply to get noveices into the mode of feeling price action. Perhaps price action is bad ?

There is alot of wisdom provided by this man, not much of what he is saying can in any way be called invalid or debunked. Point to something if you like, I will be more then happy to logically debate that with anyone, but please spare the bold, red underline and lol, nonsense.

The root point here is trading without a stop loss, using a hedge, and executing a pairs trade or a market neutral startegy. That startegy has been arround for some time no?, and there are proponents and oponents. Ultimatelly its about risk control. If you take the time, you can see that brijon never advised more then overal 7% risk, with minimal 1.5 - 2% single trade risk. That is in his videos.

Many trashing this thread dont realize that new traders, still do not have the basic concepts of trading. No risk control, no idea how to handle account blowouts and so on.

You can defintelly learn much quicker using this method of trading, if you do it on demo. Yes most new traders will blow their accounts, but isnt that better ? then this happening in a real account?

There is so much presented in here, that just from the amount of information that has to ve learned, this can be invaluable to many.

Anyway instead of bashing chips, and others in here post something logical and to the point.
  • #960
  • Feb 21, 2012 6:53pm Feb 21, 2012 6:53pm
sadly you`re all wasting your time with these "funny" guys.

they`re not out to learn anything - that sounds like work!

they`re only here to have a bit of "fun", so the more somebody engages with them, the better they like it.

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