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  • #1
  • First Post: Feb 5, 2012 2:20pm Feb 5, 2012 2:20pm
This is gonna be a bit of gambling.
I want HIGH RISK.

I want to get at least 1000% return during a year.

What is best way to accomplish this?
A pro trader to trade for you? How to find one? (someone who has record of winning at least 80% of his trades?)
Someone to tip you of what trade to make? (who?)
A fund?
A existing system and do it manually after practising it in a month first? (which system?)

I just don't have to patience for doing the long grind the "safe" way which would take most likely 20-30 years with my small starting capital.
I want to have a HIGH RISK and if I make it I'll be rich after that year and if I lose then I can finally stop my struggle of becoming rich sometime in my life.
  • #2
  • Feb 5, 2012 6:24pm Feb 5, 2012 6:24pm
what is your current low risk trading system?
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  • #3
  • Feb 5, 2012 6:33pm Feb 5, 2012 6:33pm
Going to second that query! And not sure how trusting someone else with your money is going to get you the big returns you're looking for..chances are you can learn more about trading with high leverage and use it to get the returns you desire.
  • #4
  • Feb 6, 2012 2:07am Feb 6, 2012 2:07am
Since you say you're comfortable with some risk, I would recommend choosing an autotrade platform and following 5 well performing traders with max leverage. Of course, you will need a VERY large investment for such a strategy to work!
  • #5
  • Feb 6, 2012 2:55am Feb 6, 2012 2:55am
0.001 lot broker + martingale..
  • #6
  • Feb 6, 2012 4:07am Feb 6, 2012 4:07am
how much starting capital you have ? 1000% return is nearly impossible in 1 year imo.
  • #7
  • Feb 6, 2012 6:28am Feb 6, 2012 6:28am
I have one high risk system with high profitability but it needs a very hard balls traders , may suit the trade starter appetite...

I will share here:

The system is very simple and the idea start as one day i saw my son playing PlayStation.

Normally in any game will give you 3 initial life.
You will continue if your life still there. Stop when the game over.

Same concept:

You can start as low as USD90 or what ever money you able to loss(due to high risk, the chances for losing the money is very high for beginners, same as in the game

example start with USD90:

divide USD90 with 3 =USD30

now you will have 3 life, each life is USD30.

Start with the first life.
Open Trade first life with 30pips TP and 30 pips SL.
use maximum lot you can so that when 30pips SL hit, you will loss only USD30(do some calculation).

worst case, when you get straight hit by SL. Game Over!!

If you hit the TP, continue next trade with 30pips TP and 30 pips SL.
use maximum lot you can so that when 30pips SL hit, you will loss only USD60(do some calculation).

Continue the game if you still hit TP.

If in case you target for 1000%, hit continue win in 6 straight trades:

30,60,120,240,480,960..stop the game..and start with new game..

how about that?
  • #8
  • Feb 6, 2012 7:32am Feb 6, 2012 7:32am
Haha, nice. Reverse martingale
  • #9
  • Feb 6, 2012 1:38pm Feb 6, 2012 1:38pm
Quoting Proffesor Pi
This is gonna be a bit of gambling.
I want HIGH RISK.

I want to get at least 1000% return during a year.

What is best way to accomplish this?
A pro trader to trade for you? How to find one? (someone who has record of winning at least 80% of his trades?)
Someone to tip you of what trade to make? (who?)
A fund?
A existing system and do it manually after practising it in a month first? (which system?)

I just don't have to patience for doing the long grind the "safe" way which would take most likely 20-30 years with my small starting capital.
I...
An average of 1000% a year can be accomplished. I know some systems that can do that, however, the drawdown will get quite big in the realms of 60-70%. I personally prefer to get less % a year but with a comfortable drawdown of 20-30%.
Best way to accomplish that? Research the market and try to find a method that is good at compounding profits. You need to be absolutely 100% sure that you can win over the long-term, before starting to trade such a system with big position sizes.

Well, and don't ask me which systems I use, cause I won't share that. I pointed you the way, it's up to you to go the path.
  • #10
  • Feb 6, 2012 2:59pm Feb 6, 2012 2:59pm
I dont do trading on my own.
I invest in other traders.

But they are only low risk traders I can choose between.

Why reinvent the wheel when you can let someone who already done all the work and study and practise and gotten all the experience?
Just share a small part of the profits with them.
But I need a high risk trader not a low risk.
  • #11
  • Edited 10:31pm Feb 6, 2012 10:06pm | Edited 10:31pm
Quoting Proffesor Pi
I dont do trading on my own.
I invest in other traders.

But they are only low risk traders I can choose between.

Why reinvent the wheel when you can let someone who already done all the work and study and practise and gotten all the experience?
Just share a small part of the profits with them.
But I need a high risk trader not a low risk.
Really successful traders have no incentive in taking your money. If one can really make a 1000% a year, then why should he go through the trouble on taking in other people's money? Also not sure how you can infer that high risk leads to high returns? I would assume that a low risk trader can achieve much higher returns over the long-run than somebody risking the house on each trade.
I don't think you will find what you are looking for.
  • #12
  • Feb 6, 2012 10:45pm Feb 6, 2012 10:45pm
Lol funny threads this days 1000% better go learn something about the markets and trading in general you just making it harder for yourself going this way.
  • #13
  • Feb 7, 2012 6:31am Feb 7, 2012 6:31am
Quoting Custos
Really successful traders have no incentive in taking your money. If one can really make a 1000% a year, then why should he go through the trouble on taking in other people's money? Also not sure how you can infer that high risk leads to high returns? I would assume that a low risk trader can achieve much higher returns over the long-run than somebody risking the house on each trade.
I don't think you will find what you are looking for.
To make even more money?
It's working for me, I have no reason to lie.

I don't think anyone else but me in this thread are making money from forex.
Really garbage replies.
  • #14
  • Feb 7, 2012 8:16am Feb 7, 2012 8:16am
I don't think anyone making 1,000% a year would trade other people's money

Yes, I'm sure there are people making these returns (1% a day compounded will get you a 1,000% return), but anyone making such returns will rapidly get to a maximum trade size that would be difficult to place.

Even starting with a £10K account, that account would be worth a billion pounds after 5 years, and the trader will need to make £10 million every day to continue his 1% growth

Now why would that trader take on board anyone else's money?
  • #15
  • Edited 9:43am Feb 7, 2012 9:07am | Edited 9:43am
Quoting Andy B
I don't think anyone making 1,000% a year would trade other people's money

Yes, I'm sure there are people making these returns (1% a day compounded will get you a 1,000% return), but anyone making such returns will rapidly get to a maximum trade size that would be difficult to place.

Even starting with a £10K account, that account would be worth a billion pounds after 5 years, and the trader will need to make £10 million every day to continue his 1% growth

Now why would that trader take on board anyone else's money?
Haha, I now see that there has been a misunderstanding somewhere.

I don't mean a trader who actually trades high risk 1000%+ consistently.
I mean a "normal" pro trader who trades successfully low risk but could attempt trading high risk.

Isn't it just to increase the lot size and/or leverage and make sure the trades you pick are the best signals you can find with whatever system you use?

Also I don't mean you have to do it for an entire year, I just don't want it to take longer than that. You could place everything in one trade too.
I'm not a trader, I have done some live trading and broke even but I'm really more interested in investing in other traders.

It has got to be worth it for a pro trader to attempt a 1000%+ return for me if he gets maybe 10%. Even with just 10 grand thats 10 grand he earns on commission (or more if it made more than 1000%, maybe place a SL once reaching 1k%?) for really not that much extra work than usual.
  • #16
  • Feb 7, 2012 12:39pm Feb 7, 2012 12:39pm
Quoting Proffesor Pi
Haha, I now see that there has been a misunderstanding somewhere.

I don't mean a trader who actually trades high risk 1000%+ consistently.
I mean a "normal" pro trader who trades successfully low risk but could attempt trading high risk.

Isn't it just to increase the lot size and/or leverage and make sure the trades you pick are the best signals you can find with whatever system you use?

Also I don't mean you have to do it for an entire year, I just don't want it to take longer than that. You could place everything in one trade too.
I'm not...
But that's the thing. The extra 10 grand don't matter at all in the grand scheme of things. That is also why big hedge funds only take in already wealthy investors. Cause then the 20% of profits will soon be in the hundred millions. Now that is of course something different.

But I am sure nobody will take such a tiny account. The reward is just too little for the extra trouble involved in doing all the legal work. Cause of course, once a trader trades other people's money he needs to comply to certain regulations, maybe get his books auditored,... all of that costs money, time and nerves. Not really worth the extra 10 grand.
  • #17
  • Feb 7, 2012 1:01pm Feb 7, 2012 1:01pm
Quoting Custos
But that's the thing. The extra 10 grand don't matter at all in the grand scheme of things. That is also why big hedge funds only take in already wealthy investors. Cause then the 20% of profits will soon be in the hundred millions. Now that is of course something different.

But I am sure nobody will take such a tiny account. The reward is just too little for the extra trouble involved in doing all the legal work. Cause of course, once a trader trades other people's money he needs to comply to certain regulations, maybe get his books auditored,......
I ment traders that already are trading for others.. low risk.. and can make an exception and take some high risk too.

Also, This was just one option.. of having someone do it for you.
If you don't know anyone that can do this.. Give advice on a way to make high risk forex. Not things that you think you can't.. I only want to know what you think I can.
  • #18
  • Feb 8, 2012 3:55am Feb 8, 2012 3:55am
Quoting Proffesor Pi
I ment traders that already are trading for others.. low risk.. and can make an exception and take some high risk too.

Also, This was just one option.. of having someone do it for you.
If you don't know anyone that can do this.. Give advice on a way to make high risk forex. Not things that you think you can't.. I only want to know what you think I can.
Custos is right. Noone worth their salt will look at less than 6 figs, most likely 20/2 rates and even then, not really worth their reputation to indulge. So it's down to you fella. You need a high probability trade and to leverage the max out of it like EUR/CHF. Margin as stop loss a couple of hundred pips below the 1.2 floor to protect against all but the most severe stop runs (no guarantee of course). Scale positions in down to 1.2 at most. Take profits often. Rinse and repeat and keep your fingers crossed.
  • #19
  • Feb 9, 2012 8:17am Feb 9, 2012 8:17am
I just don't think I'm good enough to make trades on my own with so much risk.

I win + breakeven so few of my trades.. maybe close to 30%.
The only Reason I came out breakeven the little I traded was because of.. I don't remember the proper term for it but I win about 2-3 times more than I risk.

And also because I risked very little (1%).. Altho I probably should of risked even less than that I realise now.

But if I am gonna make high risk trades 5%-100% (not sure if it's best to risk 5% each trade or 33% or 50% or maybe all at once) then my probability of success is about the same as in casino.

I would like signals from someone who wins at least 70% of his trades.. Because I seen there are a lot of traders who do win so much.

Anyone know more about signals? and how reliable it is? Any tips?
  • #20
  • Feb 10, 2012 12:29am Feb 10, 2012 12:29am
Quoting Proffesor Pi
I just don't think I'm good enough to make trades on my own with so much risk.

I win + breakeven so few of my trades.. maybe close to 30%.
The win-rate alone doesn't matter, it really doesn't. My systems win close to 20% of the time, and still the equity curve is rising fast.
Quoting Proffesor Pi
The only Reason I came out breakeven the little I traded was because of.. I don't remember the proper term for it but I win about 2-3 times more than I risk.

And also because I risked very little (1%).. Altho I probably should of risked even less than that I realise now.

But if I am gonna make high risk trades 5%-100% (not sure if it's best to risk 5% each trade or 33% or 50% or maybe all at once) then my probability of success is about the same as in casino.

I would like signals from someone who wins at least 70% of his trades.. Because I seen...
Again, win-rate alone is irrelevant. If you take profit each time at one pip in profit, while setting a stop loss 100 pips away, you will win 90% of the time and still lose your money on the 10% of time the market doesn't go your way.
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