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  • #901
  • Jan 31, 2012 8:09am Jan 31, 2012 8:09am
Quoting Andrewkin
Andrew you're in the comercial section as you're a seller.

so as a prospective buyer I want to see proof that you're actually making the gains you have been posting.... Please show us some account statements. To prove the worth of your subscription charge.

If this is just here say ie you could have made that, well that should be discolsed to FF.
  • #902
  • Jan 31, 2012 1:51pm Jan 31, 2012 1:51pm
Well said Apocalypto, like I said before we have never seen a single live trade, no proof whatsoever that Andrew uses hes numbers himself, He said ''we are not traders but group of mathematicians'' so why posting xxx pips daily if they arent even traders? I can see and everyone else see price reacts to those lvls but those lvls are S/R so I ask again how do you know Andrew the price will bounce of A lvl but will go through B lvl? No one knows this thats why ppl use S/R with their trading systems, what you showing us here is ma cross and repainting fisher-this is not a system and if we dont see live trades here than pls stop posting historical data with your lvls on them cos it is still very misleading for new traders.
Btw I also saw the post made by 2face which disappeared, if you didnt delete it than who?

Regards
Hank
  • #903
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:12pm Jan 31, 2012 2:12pm
Quoting >Apocalypto<
Andrew you're in the comercial section as you're a seller.

so as a prospective buyer I want to see proof that you're actually making the gains you have been posting.... Please show us some account statements. To prove the worth of your subscription charge.

If this is just here say ie you could have made that, well that should be discolsed to FF.
Hi Apocalypto,

This thread is probably too big to read through.

So I'll forgive you.

And let me say again, FMRL is a tool, not a system.

It is part of a mathematical system we developed.

Our system is used to trade for a single hedge fund.

FMRL is the only part we are allowed to show others.

It is used successfully by a few experienced traders.


Pricing

We originally expected to price FMRL at £100 month.

People, including hoichoi, wanted it cheaper (post 54).

So we made it £20, in fact we gave it to hoichoi free.

Because we didn't want to take money from children.


Novice Traders

We have posted a few ideas to help novices (post 11).

I know of only one trader who has used this profitably.

Our web site has a download link to an excellent PA primer.

And the first month is free so novices can play but not buy.


In conclusion your post shows you haven't read the thread.

This response save you the bother.

So good luck,

Andrew
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  • #904
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:19pm Jan 31, 2012 2:19pm
Quoting hoichoi
Andrew you have deleted the post I am not the only one who saw it. In any case may I know why you increase the price of FRML ..
Hi hoichoi,

Seems I wasted my time with you as you still understand nothing.

Try to remember that nobody can delete others' messages in FF.

Perhaps you should try another line of work, probably manual.

Andrew
  • #905
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:30pm Jan 31, 2012 2:30pm
Hi

Well I saw 2faces post today in the morning and now its gone so where it is?
If your system is used to trade for a hedge fund tell us pls which hedge fund it is? Get the HF manager to confirm they use your numbers. How could you post ''safe xxx pips'' while even brokers tell you ''trading is extremely risky and so on...'' I know your numbers is a tool but so is Fibonacci lvls which comes free in our mt4 and no broker will tell you ''safe xxx pips'' and show you fibos drawn on historical data, again very misleading thread.

Regards
Hank
  • #906
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:41pm Jan 31, 2012 2:41pm
Quoting hanktt
Hi

Well I saw 2faces post today in the morning and now its gone so where it is?
If your system is used to trade for a hedge fund tell us pls which hedge fund it is? Get the HF manager to confirm they use your numbers. How could you post ''safe xxx pips'' while even brokers tell you ''trading is extremely risky and so on...'' I know your numbers is a tool but so is Fibonacci lvls which comes free in our mt4 and no broker will tell you ''safe xxx pips'' and show you fibos drawn on historical data, again very misleading thread.

Regards
Hank...
I have them as posts 898 and 900, both dated today.

Andrew
  • #907
  • Edited 6:21pm Jan 31, 2012 2:49pm | Edited 6:21pm
Okay, guys. Please do not argue with small thing.

Andrew has already complied with my request that he would not post the outrageous winning pips along with the FMRL levels. Which is good enough for me. Thanks Andrew. Please keep these winning misleading pips out of all of your posts.

Regarding the deleted posts:

I can at least guarantee that the below post by 2FACE has been deleted.

I have the technology to trace back any missing posts.

But, it can be deleted by Admin or 2Face himself. And I don't think Andrew has the right to delete other people's posts.

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Posted by 2face
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=267607&goto=newpost

Alert for the newbies! He is Ruining a high tech scam Organisation with some users claiming to benefit from the system.

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  • #908
  • Edited 5:57pm Jan 31, 2012 2:49pm | Edited 5:57pm
"It is part of a mathematical system we developed.

Our system is used to trade for a single hedge fund.

FMRL is the only part we are allowed to show others.

It is used successfully by a few experienced traders."

Very good defense indeed. Bernard Madoff was able to convince
wealthy investors on Ponzi scheme for years while not you. Bringing in
hedge fund is part of your weapon to convince newbie.
How comes a mathematician to average
hundreds of pips daily? I thought "It is used successfully by a few experienced traders" and you are one of them? We still want to see
your successful live trade, cause you must know more about S/R before
developing system for it
  • #909
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:51pm Jan 31, 2012 2:51pm
Quoting precisiontra
I'd agree with HankT on these mis-leading claims on how many green pips the FMRL will make each day.

... snip ...

I hope Andrew would change his posting behavior from now on for the FMRL services to avoid people calling him another scammer or spammer or whatever people calling these bad forex marketeers.
Hi precisiontra,

As YOU agree with HankT I have removed the numbers.

It is certainly not our intention to be misleading.


You are right about FTI. It doesn't work.

We are testing a number of things.

But not convinced we know how to trade single pairs.

We certainly didn't when we started this trading game.

But we've learnt a lot since then.

So maybe we'll come up with something useful.

Andrew
  • #910
  • Jan 31, 2012 2:54pm Jan 31, 2012 2:54pm
Tuesday 31 January 2012


FMRL numbers are used to put lines where we expect price direction to meet support, resistance or reverse.

They should be used in combination with price-action and seem to work best with the technical pairs.


An introduction to price-action can he found here (http://www.nysco.co.uk/Candlestick.zip).


FOREX trading is extremely risky and most people lose their money.


FMRL costs GBP30 a month.

FMRL numbers are available by subscription here (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=EL6M8ARFNNNUA).

The first month is FREE and you can unsubscribe any time here (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_subscr-find&alias=WWV5GDLDB3D6C).


Below are five of today's 15m charts. Fisher setting is 32 periods.
They now also include 9MA, simple,close and 9MA, simple, close, 3shift.


EURUSD

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EURJPY

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  • #911
  • Jan 31, 2012 3:03pm Jan 31, 2012 3:03pm
Quoting Andrewkin
Hi precisiontra,

As YOU agree with HankT I have removed the numbers.

It is certainly not our intention to be misleading.


You are right about FTI. It doesn't work.

We are testing a number of things.

But not convinced we know how to trade single pairs.


Andrew

Great. Thanks Andrew.

Case closed !!!


Hello all other posters,

Please open your own threads to discuss further on how to use the FMRL to make profitable trades. I will definitely contribute to your thread, since I have traded the S/R levels for over 10 years.

This thread is Andrew's thread, and he has already promised that he would not post misleading winning pips. That's good enough. And let this thread to be as clean as before. No more attacking each other.

Thanks for your consideration.
  • #912
  • Edited 5:23pm Jan 31, 2012 4:54pm | Edited 5:23pm
Quoting Andrewkin
Hi Apocalypto,

This thread is probably too big to read through.

So I'll forgive you.

And let me say again, FMRL is a tool, not a system.

It is part of a mathematical system we developed.

Our system is used to trade for a single hedge fund.

FMRL is the only part we are allowed to show others.

It is used successfully by a few experienced traders.


Pricing

We originally expected to price FMRL at £100 month.

People, including hoichoi, wanted it cheaper (post 54).

So we made it £20, in fact we gave it to hoichoi...
There's nothing to do with Luck Andrew, I am interested in becoming a client and paying you but I want to see proof that it works. I think that's fair enough. If I buy a car i will want to see it actually starts and is mechanicly fine. So you say it's used by a hedge fund what is this fund?

Where are they regulated?
What's their regulation number under the body?
Are you part of this fund or do sell the siganls to them. If so I am sure they paid more then members pay here, how do they feel that you charge less to sell to the public then they pay or paid?

from the sounds of your reply you're part of a hedge fund why are you here on FF trying to sell it for 20 pounds to retail members, are u not busy enough with the fund.

Why can't you show me statements of a live account that proves this is being used to trade real money. Untill you can show me this it's nothing more then if but and maybe.

I suggest that no one gives you a cent till you can prove that what you say is actually true. Or at a minimum it's being used for trading a live account. Anyone can come on FF and post a chart with +100 pips. As a comercial member you need to do a little better then that.
  • #913
  • Jan 31, 2012 4:58pm Jan 31, 2012 4:58pm
Quoting precisiontra
Great. Thanks Andrew.

Case closed !!!


Hello all other posters,

Please open your own threads to discuss further on how to use the FMRL to make profitable trades. I will definitely contribute to your thread, since I have traded the S/R levels for over 10 years.

This thread is Andrew's thread, and he has already promised that he would not post misleading winning pips. That's good enough. And let this thread to be as clean as before. No more attacking each other.

Thanks for your consideration.
This where you're wrong, this is comercial thread selling a product. It requires proof for it's worth I and any other member have the right to request proof if we're thinking of giving Andrew money.
  • #914
  • Jan 31, 2012 8:34pm Jan 31, 2012 8:34pm
Lol Andrew I told you the post got deleted and it was. And I was never given this number free. You must mixed me with someone else
  • #915
  • Jan 31, 2012 11:12pm Jan 31, 2012 11:12pm
Quoting >Apocalypto<
This where you're wrong, this is comercial thread selling a product. It requires proof for it's worth I and any other member have the right to request proof if we're thinking of giving Andrew money.
apocalypto im shocked your bashing on here,nobody ever has shown account statements on ff or that they even trade for a living.
j16,strat,jacko,fxadvice,acumen,thelastcoke,clockwork71,just to name a few.
tell me where you can go to any car show room drive the car round for a month and if its not for you stop driving it.this guy will give you a free month try it,if you dont want to use the levels dont.
like you know yourself its your pa reading skills which will tell you if the levels work for you,just like any fib levels,indi,or god knows what crap is sold out there.
he has done the right thing by not putting the crazy pip count on the thread.
anybody who,s thinking of buying any levels,or indi,its only 10% of what it takes to become a trader.
if you do take the free month apocalypto,be interested to know how you found them and your review on here would help anyone thinking of trying them.
good trading mate.
student
  • #916
  • Edited 12:23am Feb 1, 2012 12:11am | Edited 12:23am
Quoting garrye
apocalypto im shocked your bashing on here,nobody ever has shown account statements on ff or that they even trade for a living.
j16,strat,jacko,fxadvice,acumen,thelastcoke,clockwork71,just to name a few.
tell me where you can go to any car show room drive the car round for a month and if its not for you stop driving it.this guy will give you a free month try it,if you dont want to use the levels dont.
like you know yourself its your pa reading skills which will tell you if the levels work for you,just like any fib levels,indi,or god knows what crap...
Hi Garry,

I never said a month, like that will happen
he has had people calling scam at him so if it really works what's the big deal in putting up some acc statements to show us... i don't think it's that much of a deal. In my business if i was asked to prove a performance units benifit i will send them a dyno graph.

so why can't i ask. if i am going to pay for his servce or are we all just ment to believe in all the hype and allow idiots like Jacko to come in a rip people off? FF needs more proof, and this section should have it as a requirment. FX is full of sharks that prey on the newbies .
  • #917
  • Feb 1, 2012 6:04am Feb 1, 2012 6:04am
Quoting >Apocalypto<
Hi Garry,

I never said a month, like that will happen
he has had people calling scam at him so if it really works what's the big deal in putting up some acc statements to show us... i don't think it's that much of a deal. In my business if i was asked to prove a performance units benifit i will send them a dyno graph.

so why can't i ask. if i am going to pay for his servce or are we all just ment to believe in all the hype and allow idiots like Jacko to come in a rip people off? FF needs more proof, and this section should have it...
i agree with what you say,but andrew is giving the first month free,thats for everyone to test the levels,thats what i ment on the car thing. i dont think andrew trades anyway and if a fund does trade his levels i cannot understand why he is selling them here on ff.
the mind boggles lol.
hope your trading well.
student
  • #918
  • Feb 1, 2012 12:14pm Feb 1, 2012 12:14pm
I've been using these numbers for a year now. Ok lets try some examples.

Sell EU 3260
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  • #919
  • Feb 1, 2012 1:27pm Feb 1, 2012 1:27pm
Right guys.. Let's see if we can clear all this nonsense up.
The bickering is one of the main reasons I cannot be bothered to visit
this forum as much as I used too.

I have been trading these FMRL Levels since Andrew started this thread and made them available to us.
There was NO ONE I knew up untill then that offered anything like what Andrew has offered. It allows people like me to be able to see what the Big dogs see.
It is NOT a trading system!

It is merely an addtional confirmation tool for the majority of traders who do KNOW how to trade them.

Irrespective of the totals that Andrew shows "After" the event, It really still boils down to one thing; Your personal style of trading and how many pips you are looking for. We all have different reasons and portfolios for trading; "so I say again, The FMRL's ARE ONLY A Tool to assist, It's NOT A SYSTEM!"

Andrew has a right to make money from his information. If he does not trade the lines, then thats HIS business NOT OURS!

I know there are other talented traders in this thread that do very well
from his FMRL's too.

For those who are struggling to make pips from this, I have placed PROOF in this thread over a year ago that these lines work with the strategy I use.
(Search my earlier postings) I think the majority of traders who cannot get these lines to work for them is because you are trading with "Scared" money and not giving your trades room to breath.

hardpippin (aka traderx4)
  • #920
  • Feb 1, 2012 1:45pm Feb 1, 2012 1:45pm
Quoting Ultimate6
I've been using these numbers for a year now. Ok lets try some examples.

Sell EU 3260
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Just a few comments about your Counter-Trend strategy:

1. You really need to pay GBP30 every month to get these few simple S/R lines? That's GBP360 a year... There are several simple ways to get the similar S/R lines for free. Do a little Google on the internet.

2. I didn't see you are using the re-painted Fisher transform or Price Action (PA) or MA cross-overs to trade the FMRL lines as Andrew suggested. Very interesting. So, you do not want to have these claimed "safe 120 pips" everyday.
?

3. You are using the Infamous Counter-Trend strategy trying to catch the exact Top or Bottom intra-day. Again. this strategy is just another 50-50 coin tossing. During the highly trending day, all these levels would be breached like nothing were there. 50% of the time, these lines will hold, and 50% of time it will break. There is no edge in trading this Counter-Trend strategy in the long run, especially for the highly trending pairs like EURUSD, AUDUSD, etc.

4. All three (3) FTI signal services initiated by Andrew used the same Counter-Trend strategy trying to catch the exact top and bottom intra-day, and all three FTI services were either suspected or permanently Stopped due to extremely poor performance during November to January of 2011 and 2012. Most of the time, it tried to catch the falling knife in a market drop like a stone, and tried to pick up pennies when the market trending up like a Steamroller. These are the fact and I have stated in my previous postings and Andrew has already acknowleged the facts. You can find these posts easily.

5. In conclusion, I firmly believe you are a newbie trader and do not know how to use the PA as well as how to apply the simple S/R levels in your trading.

So, counter-trend strategy trying to use the simple S/R lines intra-day to pick the exact top and bottom is a losing strategy in the long run and especially if you add the huge subscription fee every month.

I am not trying to attack you; but trying to warn you that you have the same mistakes that Andrew's FTI services made, and your strategy is a loser in the long run. Just go to the FTI service thread and check out the results.
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