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  • #30,141
  • Jan 20, 2012 3:29pm Jan 20, 2012 3:29pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
Thanks Cheif,

I thought you were taking a break..... I need to scratch your brain for some stuff (related to audio again)...let me know if i am allowed to do it...


V
yes? anything?
  • #30,142
  • Jan 20, 2012 3:45pm Jan 20, 2012 3:45pm
Quoting fti
yes? anything?
This is for my comnputer listening where i am all the time...


thinking to replace my
http://www.vienna-acoustics.com/prod...altz/waltz.php

with

http://www.vienna-acoustics.com/prod...aydn/haydn.php

(Kinda exchange with a buddy no money out my pocket)


Now the main part...

Getting a DAC and i am keeping it on 24/96Khz...not in mood to go for 24/192 as there arent many native files there and also dont have many in my library...also most of music i listen is streamed from internet...aka grooveshark...youtube..pandora...

so here is the short list...

http://www.musichallaudio.com/detail.php?p=68

(it has tube output for RCA)

and

http://www.musicalfidelity.com/produ...1DAC/M1DAC.asp


till this is fine... that was easy part...

where my head is hurting is getting an AMP ... i am going towards tubes..

thinking to get a Chinese Amp(which cost less) and upgrade the tubes....liek these they come with decent tube...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAQIN-MS-20L...-/250975619330

or i jsut came back from a recent audition or rogue audio

http://www.rogueaudio.com/Products_Titan.htm

Or anything which you suggest....


V

PS: out to gym will check in 30 min...
  • #30,143
  • Edited 5:07pm Jan 20, 2012 3:54pm | Edited 5:07pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
This is for my comnputer listening where i am all the time...


thinking to replace my
http://www.vienna-acoustics.com/prod...altz/waltz.php

with

http://www.vienna-acoustics.com/prod...aydn/haydn.php

(Kinda exchange with a buddy no money out my pocket)


Now the main part...

Getting a DAC and i am keeping it on 24/96Khz...not in mood to go for 24/192 as there arent many native files there and also dont have many in my library...also most of music i listen is streamed from internet...aka grooveshark...youtube..pandora......
Ok DACs add colouration into the music.
So infact they manipuate equilisation or interpolation to enhance audible sound. Such is done by physical electronic components than norm eq sets.


If you audiophile thats not what you want. You would want stay to the equalisation and mastering the original sound engineer did. Some recordings were never done to audiophile standards and nothing canbring whats not recorded in recording into being, only lots masking for effects.

Even interconnects colours music, so need test lots to match the amps you use for flat response. Mostly the colorisation is in the pitch.

If your audio source is youtube or non marked audiophile recording, then good audiophile equiptment will only reproduce the media worser than orinary hifi would. This because you will hear all the deficientcies enhanced in audiophile equiptment.

Youtube materials are intentionally resolution deficient due to the size of the file required for high resolution.
Youtube medias Best you can get is only mid resolution.Not even low high end stuff.

Tube Amps also add resolution colouration. The distortion is in the warmth added to the sound, which is infact distortion.
But some peeps like the added effects of the distortion. Tubes is not easy to maintain, because it has use durability. The sound will deteorate as the filiments wear out. Time scope is average use of about 2 weeks. And also you need warm tube to certain temperature before you can get any effects. Although dragon tubes are relative cheap still maintainance of amp is a chore compared to solid state amps. And standards will be different at different temperature of tube and from day to day.

Best and easiest to use are mono block solid state amps. Is the best alternatives. Personally my favourite are the maccormick mono blocks, but they hard to find. Another good choice would be macintosh mono blocks. Stereo amps are for newbies & mid enders.

I not advice you go that direction , as you mentioned , you media source is not compatible highresolution.

For computer use, your sound range will only be in the vicinity of 80Hz to 12k Hz. Its impossible get to the low 20Hz and up 18k Hz range. from testing around, i found the altec Lansing satellite series already sufficient. Unfortunately you will need use subwoffers enhance you low range sounds. Best audiophile sounds are reproduced on floor standing 2 way speakers. But for computers you need have good subwoffers enhance the mid range sounds which satalites cannot reproduce.
But if you use a good soundtest disc , adjust your phasing and resolution and staging, then you can tweek to best room tereatment for respectable sound. Also do some standing sound test of room and dampen all standing waves.

Oh also if you using computers you need use wasapi drivers instead of asio for output. The difference is very evident.
wasapi is only supported Vista and W7. If you on xp then asio is best you can get to. And you need turn buffering down to the lowest. Buffering produces ditters that affect sound.


regards

PS:for best sound resolution, use as little add on equpitment as possible, eg equilisers, tuners....
this because all electronic euiptment add to the noise floor. Also make sue you have clean electricity supply. There are many sucjh devices available in market, alternatively use much ferite cores clips on your power cables to filter out the dirty electricity supply.
  • #30,144
  • Jan 20, 2012 4:47pm Jan 20, 2012 4:47pm
Funny thing is, your lessons make very intuitive sense, they're very natural. Yet still humanity makes the same mistakes...
  • #30,145
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:04pm Jan 20, 2012 5:04pm
Quoting fti
mike,
vic is closer.
maybe i try make it clearer.
What ever decision is taken, we take it based on our best judgement of whats happening from the limited knowledge base that we had aquired either from study, observations and experience.
We must be humble enough to understand that it may be errorneous. So in Fact we need at all time be nimble and prepared to correct and adjust to new information and changes as they come onstream.

Such adjustment can take form of prepareness to take much pain and realign when flow returns in our favour or...
seems very simple... but without the correct mindset... one could still be lead into limbo. Thanks chief, a very brief synopsis of your teaching which i believe sufficient enough to survive in a battlefield once understood, applied and live with it.

God bless and regards,
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiam
  • #30,146
  • Edited 5:56pm Jan 20, 2012 5:24pm | Edited 5:56pm
Quoting fullperson
Funny thing is, your lessons make very intuitive sense, they're very natural. Yet still humanity makes the same mistakes...
fp
because of deceptions. The world is full of deceptions. Noone tells the truth. And even if wanted to, many not see the deception themselves.

Every one things satan is a horrible looking monster. The truth is that he was Gods 1st angel and was supposed to be his most beautiful. beautiful things +ego always turn into monsters.

regards.
  • #30,147
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:28pm Jan 20, 2012 5:28pm
Quoting dongsky
seems very simple... but without the correct mindset... one could still be lead into limbo. Thanks chief, a very brief synopsis of your teaching which i believe sufficient enough to survive in a battlefield once understood, applied and live with it.

God bless and regards,
my friend,
simplicity is the hardest of anything.
We like tweek everything and we like the effects.

There's always the ultimate tweek to enhance. Then we find out what monsters we had created, hopefully not to late.
We even cage and tweek our food chain. Then later need find ways to cure the cancers that we had created when our own internals revolt because of the constant poisoning. All in the name of advancement. But truthfully are we better off than our ancestors?

regards
  • #30,148
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:31pm Jan 20, 2012 5:31pm
I agree, that's why practice is used and to have discipline to follow basics. After demo, I feel that I have better judgement during those limbos. I have a hard learning curve because of my youth. My damned rigidness and ego got in the way. I look at my older posts and see that I keep asking for specifics, as if seeking some sort of flight plan. lol. If only life were so.

Also found a solution to my job problem. I knocked on doors a lot and secured a job in a bank treasury. God willing, I'll have a chance to work my way up, even if I'll be getting coffee and sandwiches for a bit. Persistence really does pay off.

lol yes, just like frankenstein. I see lots of options trading that's "optimized" or modeled. I see them use kelly's formula for position sizing too. They know the risks, that;s for sure, but one research paper says that it's ok. There's actually an academic study that says that a person playing poker should be very aggressive with his bets because they can afford income from a separate job versus pro players. They extended this theory to say that an options trader should use kelly's (despite its risk) simply because they can afford to change jobs. Professional huh? Then I see hedgefuds levering up to optimize returns...self destruction I guess. Problem is, I'm ok if the scorpion is due to inexperience. BUT if these academics understand the risks, then why is scorpion the center of active risk taking?
  • #30,149
  • Jan 20, 2012 5:32pm Jan 20, 2012 5:32pm
Quoting fti
jaro, you had a great trrading day.
you know some days you cannot lose.

days where you are still profitable even though you had a losing streak. Its an even better day. A champion's day. Is like pheonix arising from the ashes.

regards

Thanks,
I thought you will take a rest and read matthew.
Blessings, J
  • #30,150
  • Edited 6:40pm Jan 20, 2012 6:15pm | Edited 6:40pm
Quoting fullperson
I agree, that's why practice is used and to have discipline to follow basics. After demo, I feel that I have better judgement during those limbos. I have a hard learning curve because of my youth. My damned rigidness and ego got in the way. I look at my older posts and see that I keep asking for specifics, as if seeking some sort of flight plan. lol. If only life were so.

Also found a solution to my job problem. I knocked on doors a lot and secured a job in a bank treasury. God willing, I'll have a chance to work my way up, even if I'll be getting...
i am glad for you.
now don't go teaching them from their devices. Only if they really want to learn.
We ants still need have victims stay alive.
They are working towards being king of the hill.

By the way, i am curious, any spot peeps or chiefs there behaves like me? MO wise i mean.

you asked
"BUT if these academics understand the risks, then why is scorpion the center of active risk taking?"
answer is lack of market experiecnce+exposure+ some pressures for perform.

leverage is ok, they probably have some big guns watching after their net greeks.

regards
  • #30,151
  • Jan 20, 2012 6:17pm Jan 20, 2012 6:17pm
Quoting Jaro
Thanks,
I thought you will take a rest and read matthew.
Blessings, J
Oh i know that well.
As i was rereading lots voices was in my head.
so i rested.

regards
  • #30,152
  • Jan 20, 2012 7:07pm Jan 20, 2012 7:07pm
"The only difference. Oh not only difference, but major difference is that i am willing give the skills away, while they not even willing give you the time of the day, if yur life depended on it." Fti

For this we are very grateful and you have our deepest respect. Ray
  • #30,153
  • Edited 11:59pm Jan 20, 2012 7:46pm | Edited 11:59pm
Quoting fti
Ok DACs add colouration into the music.
So infact they manipuate equilisation or interpolation to enhance audible sound. Such is done by physical electronic components than norm eq sets.


If you audiophile thats not what you want. You would want stay to the equalisation and mastering the original sound engineer did. Some recordings were never done to audiophile standards and nothing canbring whats not recorded in recording into being, only lots masking for effects.

Even interconnects colours music, so need test lots to match the amps you...
I expected the ans for the Tube....rest i will look into power supply..and the wasapi driver i will look into it...Mcintosh i am nnot that level yet..slowly reach there...thinking of getting Yaqin Ml20 and then replace the tubes...

makes me ashame i am IT industry and i dont know about the wasapi industry...


V
  • #30,154
  • Jan 20, 2012 7:47pm Jan 20, 2012 7:47pm
Quoting fti
my friend,
simplicity is the hardest of anything.
We like tweek everything and we like the effects.

There's always the ultimate tweek to enhance. Then we find out what monsters we had created, hopefully not to late.
We even cage and tweek our food chain. Then later need find ways to cure the cancers that we had created when our own internals revolt because of the constant poisoning. All in the name of advancement. But truthfully are we better off than our ancestors?

regards

simplicity doesn't means it is easy....

V
  • #30,155
  • Jan 20, 2012 8:21pm Jan 20, 2012 8:21pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
simplicity doesn't means it is easy....

V
Quoting fti
my friend,
simplicity is the hardest of anything.
We like tweek everything and we like the effects.

......
Hi Vic and Chief (if i may ),

simplicity is also against human nature. Not that its impossible but really not the norm. We (majority) want to be different. Want to be in the centre of attention. Want to be special.....etc
By desiring all these wants, we deviate away from the truth of simplicity.

I feel that most of the teaching from Jesus are trying to direct us back to our basic and simplicity. Transform and not conform.... transform our complication back to simplicity..
Simply receive good gifts from our ABBA.

Chief have a good rest and a peacefully CNY!
Vic have a great weekend ahead too.
  • #30,156
  • Edited 6:19pm Jan 21, 2012 1:29am | Edited 6:19pm
Quoting Veritos
Hi Vic and Chief (if i may ),

simplicity is also against human nature. Not that its impossible but really not the norm. We (majority) want to be different. Want to be in the centre of attention. Want to be special.....etc
By desiring all these wants, we deviate away from the truth of simplicity.

I feel that most of the teaching from Jesus are trying to direct us back to our basic and simplicity. Transform and not conform.... transform our complication back to simplicity..
Simply receive good gifts from our ABBA.

Chief have a good...
Veritos,
unfortunately i was same, want that which all humans want.
, when i was young i was trained in honour, chivalry, fair play.
then as i lived i saw how important it all was when i saw how it really is in the world . We are all same. By nature we are all simple. The complexity arises from our needs elbowing up the ladder and in the processs some of us lost the humaness in us. W e are not so different from Cain. Its difficult trust others, so all works get self up first. Some of us never returned to our real state even when we had achieved our success. When i was in my adolescents like everyone else i had to compete with humans, there was much sufferings and deceit and lived by duty, whether i agreed or not, kill or be killed. I walked away and from then onwards God afforded me great opportunitities, met peeps who gave me much opportunities excel. My battlefields were no longer a humans battlefield. I was above the politics and didn't relied on human competition. I only need competed with the markets. And markets is just a bunch of ego and forces only. And with honour and learning i manage climb to very high in my field of endevour. While operating, brought me close to God. Because now can understand the values of just Law and kindness and could see clearly about life's deceptions and corruption and hidden agendas(ambitions).
I could get everything i wanted or needed. Then i tried help others, there was a few who met honour with honour. many took and then renegraded. Looking back , i sat saw them fall 1 by 1. Because what they took was only material things. They never did manage learn of honour, without which they remained beast , only to be taken out by other beast. Some even tried to "last nail in your coffin" me. Is very ugly stuff. Much good forces surfaced shielded me.

Now God made opportunities in my weakest days, thru the net and this forexfactory thread, the opportunity help others without need any need be beside me. And emerges a new friontier of retail forex, where none existed earlier to try present my perspective of living in financial freedom. That for those who can empathise, may learn and improve on what is possible achieve. And i pray that those who take from here will learn the kindness to return help to those less fortunate than themselves. And that they themselves learn to be their true natures, peaceloving kind souls which they really are.

is nearly 1 year now, when i was told by a nice lady doctor, to prepare, that i will not make it thru the night, while i was lying on a cold alluminium stretcher. Now today i am happy see my birthday in 2012. Now i proved to myself, people are really nice kind beings , is just the deceptions and insecurity that makes them otherwise. The rigidity of the system, it doesn't help.

God works in very mysterious ways. "When 1 door closes, another opens."

regards

We are all the same, choose, be a better man.

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  • #30,157
  • Jan 21, 2012 3:53am Jan 21, 2012 3:53am
For me one hug will say it all.
  • #30,158
  • Jan 21, 2012 5:05am Jan 21, 2012 5:05am
Quoting fti
Veritos,
......We are all the same, choose, be a better man........
simply, a great post. rgds/kevin
  • #30,159
  • Jan 21, 2012 6:17am Jan 21, 2012 6:17am
Matthew 7:13-14

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter though it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only few find it."
  • #30,160
  • Jan 21, 2012 6:17am Jan 21, 2012 6:17am
Quoting fullperson
.......... I have a hard learning curve because of my youth. My damned rigidness and ego got in the way. I look at my older posts and see that I keep asking for specifics, as if seeking some sort of flight plan. lol. If only life were so.

Also found a solution to my job problem. I knocked on doors a lot and secured a job in a bank treasury. God willing, I'll have a chance to work my way up, even if I'll be getting coffee and sandwiches for a bit. Persistence really does pay off.
.........
Common (looking for specifics and flightplan, I did that too) for most thread followers in the early stages, including some illustrious seniors. Now we know the "holy grail" lies within ourselves but it is sad how this - the most true and valuable thread in the forum - is misunderstood and abandoned by intelligent fools due to their ignorance and big ego.

Congrats and good luck for the new job.

Rgs,
Baifu
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