Planetary Cycles Trading (EUR/USD)

Dear Astro fellows!

I, Simonus Chistabos, hereby officially announce, that today is 1 anniversary of my AstroTrading path. Exactly 1 year has passed since I began to dig into vast Void of Sacred vibrational Creation of The Creator. Perfect it is, must say. Just I am not.

Back to Earth.

I have, as many of you, read just about any web page and available books, some of which I have in printed versions at the reach of my hand, neatly ordered side by side, including Bilble. Am I 'talking' too much? LOL

What have found so far:
- Gann has been reported as a fraud (sorry to say that, sincerelly), he has not gathered huge fortune. His trading methods are so mysterious that God bless you if anybody can use those 10.000$ courses constantly profitable. His son was a trader, but never used his fathers eyes, sorry, trading methods.
- Gann was last on my to-read list, simply because I tend to leave the best for the end. I have changed my mind. I am not completely ignoring his teachings though. His last book has gave me some serious hope for the Future. (no subliminal message here. The meaning is exactly the same as words that describe it)
- Bayer was my first choice. Do not ask me why, mysteriously attracted to his informations (keep in mind there are no coincidences in human life - everything has its purpose).
- Bayers most famous rule is speed of Mercury and Sun, sorry, mea culpa, it is Mercury and Mars - when their speed differs 59', an angels descent from Heaven... no, wait, that was in my previous life. Well, something happens. He also gives CLEARLY many other rules. No mysteries.
- Merriman - have his The Sun, The Moon and The Silver Market. Pure statistic, like... in X% of ex. Sun in Aquarius & Moon in Taurus, X% chance of X happening etc. Not useful for me. In other word, as much useful as, wait, what was that... oh, my dogs poo X miters from front door. NOTE: miters are measured in my steps, so you can not rely on this info, since my foot step is completely different than yours. LOL
- Basically, everything reduces to Sacred Geometry. This topis includes music tones, basic shapes like circle (female), square (male), Circle of Life, icosahedron, octagon etc. Harmonics of planets, synodic cycles I think... etc. Fibonacci sequence, Golden Ratio...
- Moon has huge merrit, both Vedic and Western Astrology claims that it controls MIND (yep, mind control, from Great Giza Pyramid). By some modern astronomer or physicist the Moon (master Mind Controler Sonda) should NOT even be there where it is. How come? Du no. Well, what we all know that mysterious are the Paths of the Lord. (ILP, do you need any help writing your book? I have just demonstrated my writing capabilities. I also have Word in my little finger LOL)

Please keep in mind (controled by Moon Masters) that it is my Astro anniversary. So this was my celebrator's speech. Thank you all for your input. It is great to have you around.

Trading charts are ONLY existing monitoring tool of mass psychology. This is why, I guess, Western Astrology is more applicable to Financial Markets, as it exclusively deals with mass psychology.

STI & Co., if you have Cowan's software, check Mercury & Moon speed, added together, with Daily EUR USD data. Mmmmm... Coookies! SU single vertical line overlap should help you, since author 'forgot' to extend the Chart cross down to the bottom. But... this is only part of info. Have not received the other bits yet. Except that I constantly receive Moon, and Mercury. Moon, and Mercury. MM. Like Money Management. And sometimes Venus, and Sun. All inner planets. Like 'the knowledge within'. It is all in our hearth. We just forgot.

Where do I get lost? Every single method or information I applied to Charts, they ALL worked. But... to some extent. Even Transits over Natal, I studied EUR JPY. Now they work, now they don't. Why why why, o Lord, why? Would it not be much better (simpler) if just ONE would work ALL the time? Now, I am completely sure there is ONE. Dig dig dig that groovy baby... (Toy Dolls, I believe?)

Again, this thread has been immense help to me and others. I bow to all participants.

Some final thoughts... hey you, back there in last row, don't you sleep while I 'talk'! LOL
2012 is said to bring major changes, shift of Consciousness, from male to female, I think. Does this mean better times ahead? I believe and hope. My friends, we have everything within reach of our hands. Go and grab that bright Future.

May the Light be with you all,

Regards,

Don't forget to have fun,

Simon

Just my 60 cents.

happy esoteric anniversary! I couldn't even guess on when mine is.

It's all cyclical. Cycles on the chart, cycles of life, growth, understanding, blah blah blah. Coming back to where one started with a whole new perspective and on a different plane and everything is clearer as if seeing it for the first time but knowing what you're looking at this time.

Sti, if your method is based on energy or whatever emanating from the sun that can be blocked by mercury and venus, then are you taking into account the time it takes the energy to travel to the earth? I guess this concept applies to all astro in general if people are under the belief that gravity or light are the result of planetary aspects. Even at the speed of light, it takes some time for the light to hit the earth so what we see in the sky in terms of aspects wouldn't have an immediate effect. The effect would have to take into account travel distance.

This is primarily answer to Preethaforex private message to me, but it has somehow, do not blame me, extended into another long message, and includes some thoughts which might interest the known and unknown participants of this thread.

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Dear Preety!

I must first dissapoint you, so I can cheer you up after that. Or bore you with my writings.

Every time I install Skype, my AsusChi goes into strange mood. So I quit that. No Skyping, sorry. Even if AsusChi would cooperate, I have been and will be busy with that 'why why why' Astro Research. I check FaceBook once every 2 or even 3 months, just to find out that there is nothing that would really interest me. And I check my e-mail once or twice a week.

Mail me at [email protected]. I prefer this sort of communication. You write me, I write you back. And vice versa. Communication this way is much cleaner. LOL, writing that anniversary text took me 5 hours! Iiikkk.

There is a lot I have not written in last post. Like... I have decided to go through the informations that I read in this last year again, selecting those that I found of much interest. AND APPLY them either on Demo trading or on my study Board (well, I have old house, which will be rearranged, so until then I can afford writing on the wall, which is exactly what I do LOL).

Please, do not understand me wrong, but as you can see, when I respond to messages like this, for example, I just write and write and write... You see! Can't stop! LOL You would for sure not want me to communicate with you via Skype and get you bored with all beautiful things that happen to me... OK, enough.

Of course I am MUCH interested in sharing the knowledge. Currently I am rereading Jensen's Astro Cycles & Speculative Markets. I am particularly interested in so called 'special points'. Also Bayer and Gann and that FinancialAstronomy dot com guy mentions them. And Jyotish has them too. They are everywhere, so to speak! Do you have any clues? In Jyotish they are called Upagrahas, 11 of them, 5 of them are based on Sun's current positions, so they move with him. Jensen calls his 'critical degrees', page 58 in his above mentioned book, his sequence is Aries 1° 13° 26°, Taurus 9° 21°, Gemini 4° 17°, then sequence repeats with Cancer etc. That gives us (Ari 3 + Tau 2 + Gem 2) x 4 sequences = 7 x 4 points = 24 'critical degrees'. Sorry, 28! Gann I have not studied much, just read Ferrera's Gann SQ9 basics and some 'Decoding Gann Signs' - there the author just spit out about 6 or 10 of them, and after that he confirms those points 1001 way, dividing and multiplying well just about every number you heard about. LOL. The one he mentions most are 55° 77° 191° 235° (Galactic Centre). Now if we would (and I will later, planing this for about a week) combine Jensen's and those 'Gann's', I guess we would find them quite the same. Du no. I will use SketchUp file to do just that. That beautiful (all Glories to authors) software speeds my work pretty much. How to apply them, we will see.

You should know that I am pretty much spiritually oriented, and believe in God (Krishna or Love or Lord, you name it, He/She does not matter much, as long as you pay respect and Love to Him/Her) and angels and higher dimensions etc. My angels I call 'guys', and speak with them all the time. And with my dog too, but none of them would talk to me back, at least directly. Weird! LOL. I receive answers in my dreams. That 'why why why' is not just a phrase, I seriously ask Krisnha (darn, there we go again, I just can not stop writing) all sort of questions all the time. This stuff works, I have received many answers, some direct, some in dreams, some in pieces, and many by paying attention to things that happen around me. Especially to those that repeat! Do try yourself, if you do it humbly and sincere, you will receive the answers, and much more. Just pay attention. Did you saw something that you rarely, if ever see, twice in one day? Like pink car or something... what I do next I either ask Uncle Google or just connect that piece of information with my question (or matter that occupies my mind) and other pieces of information... The pieces I am receiving lately (in months and years) are, as I already mentioned, the Moon, the Mercury, 9, 27, 11, 19. Now I just have to put them together. Well, there comes the troubles - 9 could mean 9 Grahas (9 planets, 7 + Northern and Southern Node, from Jyotish), or 3 x 3, or numbers from 1 to 9 (numerology), or part of 27 (3 x 9 = 27)... 27 could mean 27 Moon Mantions (Nakshatras), or 27.3 days (Moon cycle) or my ex. girlfriend (born on 27th 3rd) or you name it! Even my phone number is 77 22 72. I have got it for about 10 years. AND... my post is on page 227. How 'coincidental' is that! Zero, zip, nada, null, nil, niente. There are indeed no coincidences. Everything has got a meaning, I just have to figure it out which meaning. Other example of signs (Simon's, not Gann's LOL) would be mistakes, if they tend to repeat, like typing mistakes, I just pay attention to which one are repeating, and take that as another piece of puzzle. One example, I constantly type SImon when signaturing - SI could mean bank code for S love nia (yep, nice little ccuntry it is, did I told you already that capital city name is Be love d (she), if you tweek it just a little bit, from Ljubljana to Ljubljena), or it could mean Sirius, which is another sign I get constantly (I just made 2 mistakes in a row, right now. You see, that is how I receive answers. And a shiver is just running down my spine - woohoo, groovee). Pay attention, young gals and mans!

Now, where is Sirius? Let's ask Stellarium, or Uncle Google: it is just above horizon, looking from my place, in Canis Major constellation, 14° 15' 32'' Cancer says ZET, that should be 8th Nakshatra named Pushya, ruler is Sani (Saturn), just before 9th Nakshatra named Ashlesha (starts at 16° 40', that gives us 2° 24' 28'' difference), although ZET is having some digestion troubles right now, all Nakshatras are rotated wrong, 1st one should be at 0° Aries, but there seems to be 27° 21' 45'' offset, guess what, I just happened to notice this at what time? Yep, 21:27 (9:27 PM - there we go again). Now Uncle Google and Aunt Wiki - The Hunter / asterism (cloud of Stars, I think) / 3 bright stars in a row / 7 main stars / Bayer/Flamsteed 81 (what is that?, in the name of the Lord! Anyway, Bayer is mentioned, and 3 & 7 are most often mentioned numbers in Bible) / wow, there is Chi Orionids (hooraiii!) mentioned (see above 'what...?) / man, this is getting super interesting / Three Kings named in Australia (hello Capitan Graham!) - isn't that Christian holiday? Three Kings? / ... it points to Sirius, which is Earth twin planetary system, this is where Mind Masters are located, I believe (read Drunvalo Melchizedek; Ancient Secret of Flower of Life vol. 1 - seriously recommended by Chistabo, Warning: not for everybody (have finished reading few days ago, could be a week, don't know, the time is passing by faster and faster, does anybody else has got that feeling too?)).

Life is a mystery, we all learn from past mistakes (if you are smart, if you are above smart, you learn from other people mistakes, he he he).

Let's continue...

Did that little kid on your street caught your attentions in the morning, when he should be in the kindergarten already? What time it was? Which color did you noticed most? Then you combine that with what you already know and you get the answer. If not the first time, then the next, or next. No need to worry, 'guys' up there have immense patience, their main purpose of existence is to help and guide you. If you let them!

Is that guy, your co-worker, constantly telling one and the same 'boring' story, giving you headache?! He's got a message for you! The moment you realize that, and/or the message, he will disappear from your life! You just try, been there. I took me a long time, but once you realize 'what on earth is going on!', you are on the track. You will get of that track, once in a while, or many times, but you will be guided back. If you let happen...

Is your knee hurting?! Connect - knee - 10th house (astrology) - action / business / fame / father / sky / living abroad. Left (knee) - female, right (knee) - male etc. Yes, you have to know many things, but the saying 'knowledge is power' is not for no reason. It is the truth.

BTW, this thread, although dealing with 'how can Stars tell us a nice story about either repeating cycles or what is about to happen next in the Market (bow)', it is actually dealing with the Meaning of Life, and its mysteries, since we are rubbing our mind against the Astrology, once treated as a great Science, which still is, if you take it from right perspective, and Astronomy, which is pure mathematics. Many great persons of past, and future, have use it and studied it, like Pythagora, Tutankhamon (richest man in history, so does some say, du no, never met the guy), Nietze, Newton, Jenna Jameson etc. Uuupss, sorry, Jenna is using another Science. But still related to Astrology, via Venus, right?

By now we should be much interested in Budh (Mercury) position in the Sky, since he/she/it has, among other things, rulership over communication, including written, such as this you are reading right now, AND trading / commerce, has special characteristics among all planets - only he/she has both genders, and all three Doshas. For more details, read some Vedic Astrology books.

I have decided that I will ignore 'new' outer planets (there is nothing new on this world). Uranus, I think is just an octave of Venus, other two are octaves of I do not know exactly which planet. For thousand years humanity lived without them, although ancients knew they were there from the Beginning, so to speak. Why would we 'need' them now? Because it is New Age? If you ask me, we are in Ice Age! LOL

That's all, Folks, for now...

Will see you in another episode of 'We miss you a Lot, Jameshong'.

May the Vibrating Force (not vibrator, you silly!) be with you,

Simon


Ask, and you shall be given.

I think this is not necessary. KISS. Simple. Beside that this travel last 8 minutes, looking from Earth. Not much, except if you aim for nailing the Position taking to the Pip, or to the minute. In this case you would already knew what is correct.

I am uploading my trading tool with instructions. It has nothing with this thread, but unfortunately the thread where it was first posted, has been 'defended' by administrator, and since I told the man who was asking for update, that I will post it, I am posting it here. Administrator would not reply to my begging.

Viva la 2012,

Simon

Yes, but this is from Heliocentric point, right? If not mistaken, you only use Heliocentric?

Regards,

Simon

Today's planet is Ketu or the South Node. It's at 74 or so. Plotting on the square of nine gives the following levels.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...u_12-27-11.gif

The high and low were picked up so far. (lots of lines, but there are ways to filter anchoring to the Sun longitude degree line and then the high/low so far are picked up nicely filtering out all of the crap in between. Also, the high is a 7/8's of the square of the range.)

http://content.screencast.com/users/...q_12-27-11.gif

Hey JR, yes, you've hit it on the nail, actually, the point of origin I call 0. and it's in the neigbourhood of 0 Aries. It changes because of the way it hits our local solar system, in fact there is an Hindu form of Ayanamsa that states a fluctuation of +8 and -8 degrees (there are many forms of Ayanamsa, the most common one to be taken is the Lahiri or the 23 degrees one)

My solar system (Chistabo) therefore is Sidereal, but Ayanamsa fluctuating between +8 and -8.

It fluctuates because of gravity, or at least it seems this way to me. Now about the speed, there is not really a need to account for it because the planets move so slow, even a difference at light speed of 15 minutes, heck even an hour... it doesn't really change the way I feel about my decission to enter a trade (notice the word feel, it's important, it is our brains that is under the influence, not the graph on the screen)

So yeah there is most likely a delay, but it's only at the start and end of the Orb. Most important for me is when to expect the orb to start, and that depends on the overall mass distribution of the solar system. Which is not something I calculate or anything, I made my own rough-and-dirty rules for it. (assigning a factor per planet, multiplying it by it's longitude = getting a cretain + or -)

Having said that, the previous time that Jupiter was active (for me) was in February 2011 (It was near 0 Aries), and I am close to being convinced that I saw IT's moons on the chart... I can't be certain as I lack the exact numbers, but for what I was able to observe for myself gives me a strong indication that it was so.

This are the pictures from Metatrader I took in February.

The continuation of that story

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Trying it again

I wanted to share something else with you. These are two 5 minute charts. I guess no further explaining is necessary.

freakkkkyy.....

to all the traders here of the skies,
i heard that traditional financial astrology is not the best way to use to speculate price fluctuations with astrology. I heard Chiron was overlooked by many astro-traders and can anyone who has had experience with Chiron's latitudes or aspects share their experience? perhaps an insight?

if i find anything i'll share it here fosho

i also am curently reesarching fibonacci retracmnet levels in relationship to astrology and time trading. Planetary revoliutions off planets i belive to be synodic relationships, have such ratios of near to fibonacci ret. levels. fibonacci came after planets (of course) and im guessing he was the one who just made the harmony of the numbers more famous than it was before (if it ever was even 'known'). So basically by taking the levels of a particular swing we are actually using ratios that have a relationship to planetary bodies; bodies in which already used to make profits of differnet markets.

an example would be venus/uranus, 225 days.

225/365 (earth days) = 0.61643....
fibonacci's "magic number" = 0.618.

more into the magic of the levels the golden ratio 161.8 / 61.8 = 261.8. honestly to me this is numerology at its best. 38.2 / 61.8 = 0.618.



what i will try to reserach further on is using these ratios/periods multiplied by fibonacci retracement periods and see what happens wihth price then.

say maybe try experiment with 225 from a reasonable point of price swing and use that as a starting point in time and use fib ratios multiplied on 225. what i also want to try and do is multiply fib ratios to maybe latitudes of planets as well.

wish me luck on this investigation/discovery!

ALL THE BEST

yes yes yes, I agree for 161.8%... almost all synodics can be correlated to a 618 number (to call it Fibonacci is not eniterly correct)

This is why synodic cycles are interesting, note the points on a synodic cycle where an aspect takes place ;-) what is cause and what is effect?

I work with Ceres, Pallas, Juno, Vesta, Hygiea, Chiron (there are a bunch more objects of which longitude is tracked)

What can I say? They are objects, just as any others, some move faster, others slower.

There are about 40.000 known objects that are not being published in the JPL databases. they all have their impact. you just have to cut it off at a certain point and say, ok I'm not interested in tracking a 2 pip movement.

If I had to pick something rough and dirty to play with and had to forget everything else. Then I would pick Sun, Moon, Lilith, Mars, Jupiter. It's enough astro to be well informed.

To catch the rest I would use a modified zig-zag indicator, that would place automatically a line along the fibo-fan 0.618 of each zig-zag movement, and a fibo-retracement line on the 1.618 and 2.618 levels of every zig-zag movement. I use about 30 zig-zag steps back, you can put in a 100 if you want. Works on all time frames all tickers.

wah.. Sti.. could u let me know.. what are you used this? any indicator?

plz...

Hey Arqish, yes it's a whole lot of indicators that i did, the yellow and silver lines are the longitude of the planets mapped to price. the rest what you see there is regular instruments in metatrader and some hand drawn doodles on it.

If you're keen on programming a bit, then look for the PlanetLines indicator you will be able to find somewhere here on the forum. [edit: which is not mine!]

oh i see...

thank you so much STI..

aa.. could you drive me to exact forum that u mentioned..am sorry to bother u.. i am just a new