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  • #7,101
  • Nov 17, 2011 8:31am Nov 17, 2011 8:31am
Bullish attempts for EU.

Im watching the levels.

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  • #7,102
  • Nov 17, 2011 8:32am Nov 17, 2011 8:32am
Quoting dbfusion
ok I agree its a bubble .
I have even my short and stated my position about this metal earlier .

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...30#post5110430

but I am realistic I can see fair price is around half of what current level is .

I can say range 1300 - 1000 - 800.

but can't say 200 .
it costs them already around 700 -800 average to extract, maybe less than that in developing countries .

and its used in many industries and in medicine .

don't forget that every processor has gold components within it . your PC...
The role in medicine and computers do have no "large-scale" significance ...

Few microgramms here ... a few there ... and can be easilly replaced ...

Industry of medicals and electronics don't have a great impact ... they dont buy much from a prospective of a large-scale military and industry materials provider ... believe me ...

They do calculate in MEGA TONS and GIGA TONS of such raw materials ... inclusive old stinky gold ...



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  • #7,103
  • Nov 17, 2011 8:44am Nov 17, 2011 8:44am
Quoting mercy seat
The role in medicine and computers do have no "large-scale" significance ...

Few microgramms here ... a few there ... and can be easilly replaced ...

Industry of medicals and electronics don't have a great impact ... they dont buy much from a prospective of a large-scale military and industry materials provider ... believe me ...

They do calculate in MEGA TONS and GIGA TONS of such raw materials ... inclusive old stinky gold ...



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still doesn't deny the fact that it has demand .
even if 60% or more just for jewelery . its still demand . and it has a cost to extract it , and this puts a market and a price !


and don't get me wrong , for me its a metal just like steel , aluminum ...etc
I even can't understand why women love Gold . and the only explanation that fits to me is the monkeys and the banana experiment
its all about heritage from ancient time that are being repeated generation after another for no reasonable reason .
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  • #7,104
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:00am Nov 17, 2011 9:00am
Quoting dbfusion
ok I agree its a bubble .

but can't say 200 .
it costs them already around 700 -800 average to extract, maybe less than that in developing countries .

and its used in many industries and in medicine .

don't forget that every processor has gold components within it . your PC has gold in it !

so its not completely trash metal .
and logically you can't in 10 years change the view of 10000 years of mankind , women to be specific for using it as luxury .
Hab mal so ein wenig rumgegoogelt ... but there are no reliable infos about "Hebungs-Kosten" ...

Eines aber ist jetzt schon sicher ... Die "Hebungskosten" von Gold dürften weit unter 100 Tacken liegen ... schließlich war schon bei DEGUSSA 100% obendrauf ... evtl. 10 - 30 Dollar "Hebungskosten" ...

But I can ask about that at a reliable source ... wie schon gesagt ... Raw Material Business is not Internet Business ... they do have "Monopol-Stellung" ...



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  • #7,105
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:05am Nov 17, 2011 9:05am
Quoting mercy seat
Hab mal so ein wenig rumgegoogelt ... but there are no reliable infos about "Hebungs-Kosten" ...

Eines aber ist jetzt schon sicher ... Die "Hebungskosten" von Gold dürften weit unter 100 Tacken liegen ... schließlich war schon bei DEGUSSA 100% obendrauf ... evtl. 10 - 30 Dollar "Hebungskosten" ...

But I can ask about that at a reliable source ... wie schon gesagt ... Raw Material Business is not Internet Business ... they do have "Monopol-Stellung" ...



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I think this can apply to Diamond not Gold .
but any how we won't disagree that we both see that its inflated price , we only disagree about the size of that inflation
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  • #7,106
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:26am Nov 17, 2011 9:26am
Quoting dbfusion
and don't get me wrong , for me its a metal just like steel , aluminum ...etc
I even can't understand why women love Gold . and the only explanation that fits to me is the monkeys and the banana experiment
its all about heritage from ancient time that are being repeated generation after another for no reasonable reason .
it has a very nice color

cheers
aligater
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  • #7,107
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:28am Nov 17, 2011 9:28am
Quoting mercy seat
Hab mal so ein wenig rumgegoogelt ... but there are no reliable infos about "Hebungs-Kosten" ...

Eines aber ist jetzt schon sicher ... Die "Hebungskosten" von Gold dürften weit unter 100 Tacken liegen ... schließlich war schon bei DEGUSSA 100% obendrauf ... evtl. 10 - 30 Dollar "Hebungskosten" ...

But I can ask about that at a reliable source ... wie schon gesagt ... Raw Material Business is not Internet Business ... they do have "Monopol-Stellung" ...



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I have some numbers in my head:

Newcast Mining, in one of their statements, told, that it costs around 594 USD/ounce
  • #7,108
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:29am Nov 17, 2011 9:29am
Quoting aligater
it has a very nice color

cheers
aligater
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  • #7,109
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:34am Nov 17, 2011 9:34am
Quoting dbfusion
I don't think they are buying now .
I bet European Banks are selling the shit out of it !!
they need to get cash and they are selling it since 4 months !!!
Have to look for documentation. But I am on a trip and I have it at home.

But in the past central banks have bought high and sold low.......
  • #7,110
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:42am Nov 17, 2011 9:42am
Quoting infinitus
Have to look for documentation. But I am on a trip and I have it at home.

But in the past central banks have bought high and sold low.......
I trust you .

its just hard for me to see European banks buying it now at these levels
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  • #7,111
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:44am Nov 17, 2011 9:44am
Quoting infinitus
I have some numbers in my head:

Newcast Mining, in one of their statements, told, that it costs around 594 USD/ounce
Ja gut ... ich weiß daß Du immer sehr beflissen bist richtig gute Info zu liefern ...

But then I wonder why it could have been that Gold traded for a long time at about 200 Dollars ... and I can remeber there were times even a Krüger Rand was not much to pay for ... even not in DEUTSCHE MARK ... so ganz normal am Sparkassen-Schalter ...

I must ask ... wenn sich mal nebenbei die Gelegenheit ergibt. Ich hab leider nicht mehr die so richtig guten Beziehungen dazu ... so wie früher einst mal ... sodaß ich einfach mal nur so den Telefonhörer in die Hand nehmen müsste ... it's a pity ...

Muß mit viel Fingerspitzengefühl erst mal wieder ein wenig aufgemöbelt werden ... und dann bestimmt nicht wegen solch einer Firlefanz-Frage ...

Anyway ... EURO hit our beloved secondary TGT at 1.3537 ... which has been expected ... of course it has been expected ... and it represents DPR+1 zone ...

Problem is always when and how and if ... wenn das Wörtchen wenn nicht wär ...




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  • #7,112
  • Nov 17, 2011 9:45am Nov 17, 2011 9:45am
Quoting dbfusion
still doesn't deny the fact that it has demand .
even if 60% or more just for jewelery . its still demand . and it has a cost to extract it , and this puts a market and a price !


and don't get me wrong , for me its a metal just like steel , aluminum ...etc
I even can't understand why women love Gold . and the only explanation that fits to me is the monkeys and the banana experiment
its all about heritage from ancient time that are being repeated generation after another for no reasonable reason .
IF YOU ASK UR WIFE WHY WOMEN LOVE GOLD SHE WILL GIVE U PERFECT ANSWER.///
MY OPINION NOT FINANCIAL ADVISE
  • #7,113
  • Nov 17, 2011 10:29am Nov 17, 2011 10:29am
time for Dow for the midday rally ?
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  • #7,114
  • Nov 17, 2011 10:35am Nov 17, 2011 10:35am
Hi all
I took Long@35 depends on 1h signal on my system "Scalping position"
  • #7,115
  • Nov 17, 2011 10:44am Nov 17, 2011 10:44am
Quoting egkid
Hi all
I took Long@35 depends on 1h signal on my system "Scalping position"
Ja schön ... but that's past and yesterdays papers ...



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  • #7,116
  • Nov 17, 2011 10:50am Nov 17, 2011 10:50am
But I like to do such things then as well ...

2011-11-17_00h00 - ZigZag + Pivot Survey _ EURUSD _ Rollover _ W-46 (V1) a

Here is my yesterdays papers TABLE ...






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  • #7,117
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:14am Nov 17, 2011 11:14am
And here is our belove DOW INDUSTRIAL INDEX ...

Under pressure again ... or does not like to stand up today ...

Unentschieden zumindest ... kommt nicht so richtig aus der Hüfte ...




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  • #7,118
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:25am Nov 17, 2011 11:25am
Okay ... NYSE not willing to stand up today ... not until now ...

Maybe later ... wer will das jetzt schon wissen ... who knows ...

And our beloved EUR/USD pair has seen its major moves of the day ...




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  • #7,119
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:39am Nov 17, 2011 11:39am
that's some ugly Stocks move !!!
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  • #7,120
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:42am Nov 17, 2011 11:42am
taking second part @ 800+ pips out the Gold short .

letting rest for finale
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