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  • Post #181
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  • Oct 18, 2011 6:52pm Oct 18, 2011 6:52pm
  •  stimpy
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Sep 2010 | 303 Posts
Quoting SteveHopwood
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Hehe. Optimisation is great fun. It is also bollocks. Hey-ho.

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chuckled on that response
 
 
  • Post #182
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  • Edited 3:12am Oct 19, 2011 2:29am | Edited 3:12am
  •  Jono
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Quoting SteveHopwood
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Hehe. Optimisation is great fun. It is also bollocks. Hey-ho.

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I'm pleased you found my salty post amusing and responded in the appropriate manner.....
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2011 3:52am Oct 19, 2011 3:52am
  •  kimmy
  • | Joined Feb 2008 | Status: Member | 363 Posts
I have added a fix for the prob you hit earlier. This was a logic bloop on my part. Update in post 1.

many thanks sir !
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2011 4:14am Oct 19, 2011 4:14am
  •  kimmy
  • | Joined Feb 2008 | Status: Member | 363 Posts
One of the things I hate most is having to read queries from people too lazy to read post 1 properly.


Ouch !!


"AlsoManageMartingaleTrades tells Spider to apply your chosen management functions to the initial trade in the sequence, and not subsequent Martingale trades should the initial trade fail. "


I did read this ...promise !.....but this tells me that it will manage the first trade in the sequence and not any subsequent Martingale trades entered afterwards so the trades should have stayed open for me to manage (right?) but they didn't stay open they closed so i wanted to know what Spider looks at at this point ? .....am i being thick or what ?


Maybe someone else who has used this feature would enlighten me so as to not bother Steve
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2011 5:02am Oct 19, 2011 5:02am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
M15 trade after LO just been hit, looks a good trade...time will tell.

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...1wna-145kb.jpg

Hour chart,

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...lfbj-131kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2011 6:03am Oct 19, 2011 6:03am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
M1 wanted a piece of the action aswell........

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...opoo-122kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 20, 2011 2:48am Oct 20, 2011 2:48am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
M1 Asian today,

4 TP
2 SL

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...sq7i-123kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 21, 2011 5:34am Oct 21, 2011 5:34am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Testing M1 with 15 pip TP/SL, London open.....

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...j65x-148kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 21, 2011 7:25am Oct 21, 2011 7:25am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Trying to improve the win loss ratio which is around 50/50, I have noticed that a lot of the time when the hard stop gets hit most of the time the trade starts out positive by at least 5 pips, so I’m experimenting with BE settings.
Time will tell..
Couple more trades....

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...m522-144kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 2:18am Oct 24, 2011 2:18am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Asian session today,

15 pip hard TP and SL

5 TP = +75 pips
0 SL

Same TP/SL but with BE 5 and BE profit 10

3 TP = +35 pips
2 SL = -7 pips

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...vlfp-136kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 4:00am Oct 24, 2011 4:00am
  •  dragosd1
  • | Joined Feb 2008 | Status: Member | 572 Posts
Hey,

You have wrong settings on that BE, so it's not working . BE profit means how many pips to lock, where BE must be at how many pips from open price this function activates. So, maybe you want to change BEProfit to 5 and BE to 10. Still using SMA 50?

Quoting bobasker
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Asian session today,

15 pip hard TP and SL

5 TP = +75 pips
0 SL

Same TP/SL but with BE 5 and BE profit 10

3 TP = +35 pips
2 SL = -7 pips

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...vlfp-136kb.jpg
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I don't say
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 4:15am Oct 24, 2011 4:15am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Quoting dragosd1
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Hey,

You have wrong settings on that BE, so it's not working . BE profit means how many pips to lock, where BE must be at how many pips from open price this function activates. So, maybe you want to change BEProfit to 5 and BE to 10. Still using SMA 50?
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Hi dragosd1, will test it out, cheers.
And yes still using MA 50, live trade just taken now, lets see...

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...akku-145kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 4:22am Oct 24, 2011 4:22am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Yep working now, BE profit set to 5....

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...kth1-150kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 4:24am Oct 24, 2011 4:24am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Another 15 pips...

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...k16s-128kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 4:59am Oct 24, 2011 4:59am
  •  dragosd1
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Quoting bobasker
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Another 15 pips...

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...k16s-128kb.jpg
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Cool, then your using those settings also on LO-NYO, I understand...
I don't say
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 5:20am Oct 24, 2011 5:20am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Quoting dragosd1
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Cool, then your using those settings also on LO-NYO, I understand...
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correct, this is my latest M1 setting which I'm testing on 24h, hopefully the BE profit setting will help with trades that were reversing and hitting the hard stop after being positive in the + 8 to +12 range.

So far today,

5 TP = +60

2 SL = -7
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 5:48am Oct 24, 2011 5:48am
  •  alex_forex
  • | Joined Oct 2011 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Hi all,

Just lauched a demo on EU, GU, UC, UJ (TF=M1).

Will post my results there.

Regards
Alex
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 6:33am Oct 24, 2011 6:33am
  •  dragosd1
  • | Joined Feb 2008 | Status: Member | 572 Posts
Great, I'm experimenting too this one, but I'm thinking to add some tweaks to the bot.In fact, some of them are already added.

1.Dinamically calculated lotsize for Martingale,based on total sequence profit and individual position profit into the same sequence.Haven't figured yet how to properly get the closed orders profit from history(just for the orders from the developing sequence, starting with base lot)but it already works like this:
* if the previous position profit (base lotsize 0.01) is > than a given
value(I use -1), but TP wasn't hit - next lotsize is the same;
* if previous pos profit(let's say we had level 3 mart, with 0.04 lotsize)
plus closed orders profit(from the start of sequence, so from base lot
0.01) is greater than BE total + a given value(I use 5 pips x actual
lotsize), the sequence is resetted to base lotsize, even if TP wasn't hit;
* if the actual position(lotsize 0.04) is closing at a value greater than
(-7 pips x lotsize), next lotsize is the same,so we avoid escalating mart
sequence too fast;
* if total profit is negative, mart sequence is continuing as usual;

2.Improved TS, calculated from the SL, not from the OrderOpenPrice, also tightening to half TS, when price has travelled to the TP more than a given percent(I use 65%).

3.I intend to add also a minimum range for opening positions, acting like if we analize previous 5-10 bars and the price is ranging into a tight area, we don't trade, until this is broken.I've tried to use also SMA_Angle for this to determine this by the angle of SMA, but the indi I got is really weird, so I'm pretty stuck here at the moment.

4.Also I'm analizing if it's worth adding to this minimum/maximum distance from AA, like in the other bots, or some Trumpcard candles close sequence to confirm, but in this case, the bot will become really complex and complicated, lol.

Hahaha, so, if you like to have a look at it, just pm me, I'll send it to you.Just give me a few hours, as my other comp has decided to crush it's own video card.

I test this atm with 1st TP 150 pips, 2nd TP 60 pips, with 40 SL and 20 BE(2 BE profit), with 45 pips TS, Mart multiplier 1.5, on 15 min chart, 24h trading.Obviously,I do manage even the Mart trades, but I'm gonna test it with no management for those, but in this case, mart sequence will be free to develop with no control and I don't like this

P.S. Don't shoot me, I'm just learning the coding stuff...I was able to do all those tweakings just due to Steve's work! Thank you, Steve!

Quoting bobasker
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correct, this is my latest M1 setting which I'm testing on 24h, hopefully the BE profit setting will help with trades that were reversing and hitting the hard stop after being positive in the + 8 to +12 range.

So far today,

5 TP = +60

2 SL = -7
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I don't say
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 6:48am Oct 24, 2011 6:48am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
Nice one dragosd....

Just had my first hard SL hit,

6 TP +75

3 SL -22

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...ivc2-134kb.jpg
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2011 7:46am Oct 24, 2011 7:46am
  •  bobasker
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 102 Posts
This is where Spider fails, buying into R level or selling into S level, not sure how we can prevent it?

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/5637/201...mcsn-150kb.jpg
 
 
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