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  • #22,061
  • Oct 16, 2011 11:45am Oct 16, 2011 11:45am
Quoting hutrader
could you please explain to me what this hidden gap means for future price?
That we will fill it again or so?
Hello hutrader: Nice to meet you. I hope you and yours are all well and good.

The Hidden Gap is another name for Pushing up through Supply. This concept is explained nicely in the Trade Guider Primer on pages 36-37.

You can download TGP from my Google Docs page at

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...thkey=CLCZ-4EF

Best Wishes for Big Profits.
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  • #22,062
  • Oct 16, 2011 12:47pm Oct 16, 2011 12:47pm
Quoting rbumbalough
You asked the reader to check the definition of buying climax. I did so and have posted it below. According to Gavin Holmes' book Tradeguider VSA Trade Setup Sequences, Hidden Gap is right. The bar he identified qualifies as a buy climax on that time frame.

Best Wishes for Big Profits
Hi
thats right but there is one exception in it. Tom williams mention it in book and i guess on webinars many time.
if you have resistance on th eleft this is UPThrust and not buying climax
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Buying climax happend on places where you dont have any old top on left side.

this was Upthrust with Last point of Supply in range.
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Just wanted mention it. but thats no matter how you call it, when you know how to trade it ;D
  • #22,063
  • Oct 16, 2011 5:15pm Oct 16, 2011 5:15pm
Quoting adriann
Everybody see difference
this was not buying climax.
definition of buying climax is totaly diffferent
how you can have buying climax in range ?
and NO demand ? thats not true.
You forgot look to the left where is TOP .. and lot of people which will be selling their positions. This cause the UPTHRUST.

and no demand cannot be in middle of the range.

i just wanted to point some things
I just finished the 2 threads on VSA, the one with Shamus (What a prick) and this one with Malcolm (What a Hero).

For me, there are 3 master in these VSA threads : Malcolm, Dr.Geppynius and HiddenGap.

I am pretty sure you're the only smart ass that ever told to each one of these VSA Master that they were wrong, or that they didn't know what they were talking about . I think it's quite impressive how you choose the wrong targets ^^
  • #22,064
  • Oct 16, 2011 6:02pm Oct 16, 2011 6:02pm
Quoting magicxel
I just finished the 2 threads on VSA, the one with Shamus (What a prick) and this one with Malcolm (What a Hero).

For me, there are 3 master in these VSA threads : Malcolm, Dr.Geppynius and HiddenGap.

I am pretty sure you're the only smart ass that ever told to each one of these VSA Master that they were wrong, or that they didn't know what they were talking about . I think it's quite impressive how you choose the wrong targets ^^
hehe..
iam not telling they are wrong ;D, but wanted correct that..

uptrust and climax big differences maybe iam only one that read Wyckoff course ;D
  • #22,065
  • Oct 16, 2011 6:20pm Oct 16, 2011 6:20pm
Let me put a stop to this right now. Welcome adriann to the forum. This is a place to SHARE and GROW together. I am a student like the rest here and can certainly be wrong.

I don't think the concept of my post was made clear.

If you are having trouble spotting signs of weakness or signs of strength, it may actually help to first narrow your focus to WHERE you want to see the signs of strength or weakness. Frankkn constantly shows subtle enties on his charts. I believe one reason he can do this is because he as a strong understanding of the "where" he wants to see things. That is, in his Supply & Damand Zones ala Sam S.

As for the chart I posted, whether it is a Buying Climax or an Up Thrust is not the issue. The issue is that the high volume represents a "start point" to a possible short trade set-up. And it should be obvious, regardless of the disagreement over the bar's name. Yet, because it does not happen where you want to see it, it can be somewhat ignored. The set-up that is far less obvious is the set-up that comes in the Supply/Demand Delta Zone.

I don't know if my point is clear on that. Let me, however, be perfectly clear on this- You are welcome here and if you show disagreement so be it. The goal here is to ALL become better.............
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #22,066
  • Oct 16, 2011 7:50pm Oct 16, 2011 7:50pm
  •  Ckp
  • | Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Master ur EXIT. Entry is secondary. | 29 Posts
EUR USD W1 Chart - Ultra wide spread - reduced volume - weakness in the background... Could be setting up nicely today...

Any comments out there???
  • #22,067
  • Edited 8:22pm Oct 16, 2011 7:59pm | Edited 8:22pm
Quoting Ckp
EUR USD W1 Chart - Ultra wide spread - reduced volume - weakness in the background... Could be setting up nicely today...

Any comments out there???
Hey bro I'll post a view of the weekly, don't see too much of that, cool.

HG thanks for all of the nice words my man

Here's EU M15

Anyone here from San Diego? I am moving there soon we can party

Edit:

Forgot my analysis lol.

If price manages to break the local low (green) and strongly break the H4 SR level (red line), I'll look for a test of the level (red line) or new supply levels in that general area, capped by the RN (gray) for a short, and I'll be out well before the M15 demand (light red boxes). If we do break south (not too likely I feel, but possible) we might consolidate at the M15 demand where there will be new local H/L to watch.

If price breaks the local highs strongly, I'll probably be asleep, but if not I'll look for the same shit as above but in reverse

If we break north I'll be looking for
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  • #22,068
  • Oct 16, 2011 8:10pm Oct 16, 2011 8:10pm
Here's EU weekly

Technically we're still in a down trend, but look at the ferocity with which price rampaged back towards the prior low. If this chart was an M15 and I was considering a short in the area of the prior low, I'd say fuck that and wait for a local high to be put in, broken and retested as opposed to shorting that. It's also very possible that the daily supply at 1.4008 could help us put in a local high, but it's about 250 pips deep so why not just focus on some smaller TF, increase position size for the tighter zones?
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  • #22,069
  • Oct 16, 2011 8:17pm Oct 16, 2011 8:17pm
Quoting Ckp
EUR USD W1 Chart - Ultra wide spread - reduced volume - weakness in the background... Could be setting up nicely today...

Any comments out there???
Some of my favorite bathroom reading is Trading and Exchanges by Larry Harris. The book is about market microstructure, and one of the things it explains is how a market can move a huge distance on no volume.

When informed traders take significant positions, the information ripples through the trading community (non retail). This is everyone from other speculators to the dealers themselves, and they are not gonna let themselves get fucked so they hedge in other markets, remove orders and reposition themselves according to their new info.

The result of this means that where previously it would have taken a lot of money to move the market through all of the latent supply and demand (existing pending orders and traders waiting to enter at market) there is suddenly nothing in the way of price.

I'm starting to get off track as I'm distracted right now, all I'm tryin to say is that the market can make significant and real moves on low volume. Not saying that this trend will last as my trading methodology is relatively indifferent to this time frame.
  • #22,070
  • Oct 17, 2011 12:24am Oct 17, 2011 12:24am
Quoting HiddenGap
Let me put a stop to this right now. Welcome adriann to the forum. This is a place to SHARE and GROW together. I am a student like the rest here and can certainly be wrong.

I don't think the concept of my post was made clear.

If you are having trouble spotting signs of weakness or signs of strength, it may actually help to first narrow your focus to WHERE you want to see the signs of strength or weakness. Frankkn constantly shows subtle enties on his charts. I believe one reason he can do this is because he as a strong understanding of the "where"...
well said i agree with 100%
  • #22,071
  • Oct 17, 2011 12:27am Oct 17, 2011 12:27am
Quoting Ckp
EUR USD W1 Chart - Ultra wide spread - reduced volume - weakness in the background... Could be setting up nicely today...

Any comments out there???
imo somewhere between 1417-427 would be perfect zone to observe buyers weekness (if any) - as far as W1 timeframe
cheers
  • #22,072
  • Oct 17, 2011 3:14am Oct 17, 2011 3:14am
Quoting HiddenGap
Let me put a stop to this right now. Welcome adriann to the forum. This is a place to SHARE and GROW together. I am a student like the rest here and can certainly be wrong.
.
Thanks HiddenGap.
  • #22,073
  • Oct 17, 2011 4:40am Oct 17, 2011 4:40am
What am I missing?
i have a setup .but.....I did not find enter bar.
1.fxcm ND bar
2.ibfx squat bar this is not my enter bar


I have been looking at IBFX
i missd this.
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  • #22,074
  • Oct 17, 2011 1:19pm Oct 17, 2011 1:19pm
No trades yet this week, just checking in on EU. I'll be trading tomorrow during NY
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  • #22,075
  • Oct 17, 2011 2:09pm Oct 17, 2011 2:09pm
Quoting boyce
What am I missing?
i have a setup .but.....I did not find enter bar.
1.fxcm ND bar
2.ibfx squat bar this is not my enter bar


I have been looking at IBFX
i missd this.
Breakdown the Squat Bar (Trying to absorb demand) ..i.e Check your lower time frames ( In your case , the 5M TF or 1M TF ) . Sometimes your NS / Nd could be buried in there ...
  • #22,076
  • Oct 17, 2011 11:24pm Oct 17, 2011 11:24pm
this thread is awesome! the posts' quality are outstanding and i have learnt so much from hiddengap, intel,malcolm,frank and other veteran traders.
i have compiled hiddengap's posts from the first page until page 1460-s into Word and Pdf files for my reading materials and i would like to share with other readers too, if HG doesn't mind.

I do my trading on MBtrading MT4 platform. The volume is different from that of ibfx.it's like....really different.I am afraid MBtrading MT4's vol indicator is "misleading". So i want to ask Frankk,HG and other traders, which broker or feed that display volume more accurately?which is more recommended for VSAers?
  • #22,077
  • Oct 18, 2011 2:44am Oct 18, 2011 2:44am
Try citifx pro. Very good feed for volume imo.
  • #22,078
  • Oct 18, 2011 11:14am Oct 18, 2011 11:14am
Quoting fordshimus
...I do my trading on MBtrading MT4 platform. The volume is different from that of ibfx.it's like....really different.I am afraid MBtrading MT4's vol indicator is "misleading". So i want to ask Frankk,HG and other traders, which broker or feed that display volume more accurately?which is more recommended for VSAers?
Welcome to the team. You'll soon learn that you have access to the minds of some great VSA traders like Intel, Frankkn, Pres78 and Sonofsin. You'll also find that the list of great VSA trades grows as the thread thrives (there must be some connection here).

Anyway, to answer your question about volume. To be honest, this question continually comes up and I personal hate it. Ultimately, the real answer is you must trade what you see.

With that said, here's a list to think about:

1. Futures volume- I would suggest trading futures if you use futures volume. Some do trade spot with futures volume however.

2. GTIS feed from Esignal- This is the gold standard for spot forex tick volume.

3. All other platforms- Learn the quirks and limitations of the feed you have and trade what you see.
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #22,079
  • Oct 18, 2011 11:21am Oct 18, 2011 11:21am
Spot strength coming at 15 min chart, triple test at support level.
zoom into 5 min chart, entry at bar with mark, reason being the 1.368 is hold.

Is this VSA entry?
Is this good entry?

Thank you if anyone can give comments on it.
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  • #22,080
  • Oct 18, 2011 11:29am Oct 18, 2011 11:29am
Quoting neutral
Try citifx pro. Very good feed for volume imo.
Pitty they're market makers trading trough saxo.
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