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  • #27,441
  • Oct 5, 2011 4:09pm Oct 5, 2011 4:09pm
Quoting j-pax
i will check out fti"s recomendations>>> very curious!!..when checking a system i used to listen to large wide and full sounds.... like electronic pink floyd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK9Ye...eature=related

good night all!!


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  • #27,442
  • Edited 6:42pm Oct 5, 2011 4:57pm | Edited 6:42pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
feel like going to Store right now.........



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make sure disc are marked "Audiophile".
Unfortunately they think Audiophile's are few, so they do produce the "normal" fidelity disc for mass markets. And there is mark difference in the sound mastering.
So far I like the Japanese or German press "Audiophile" disc best.
Oh Incidentally prices are also audiophile quality. Be prepared pay at least 2X.
And be aware of bootleg press. as per usual, there are bandits around.
Some are marked remastered for Audiophile.
And that deosn't mean it's audiophile.
Some recordings were never recorded audiophile quality. So do not expect miracles there.
Best trust your ears inspite of markings. Also check IFPI batch number on disc against label numbers.
You will find that on a thin silver strip just after the disc hole.

regards

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Just a footnote for you.
true Hi-Fi analog captures more of sound dynamics that even digital audiophile will ever be able to reproduce.
but the world had taken turn to digital, unfortunately because analog recordings are super cumbersome to maintain and manuveour about.
and no good digital classicals can ever be made due to it space dynamics and microphone capabilities, So for good classicals , you can only get them at live concerts. So make no mistake that you can enjoy best classical pieces on recordings. Its not possible, its all pass clipping point. Be in the know that all good audiophile recording are mastered from analog masters. So if markings are DDD then is not audiophile. Only ADD or AAD
  • #27,443
  • Edited 11:02pm Oct 5, 2011 8:46pm | Edited 11:02pm
Ok last 3 songs, this not audiophile forum.
You should be able test your suytem well.

Tong LI
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Xu Wen
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Teresa Teng
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Ok for alternative ear plugged audiophiles, ONLY Sennheiser series C60 and higher, little alternatives.
either headroom problems, or voice colouration.
Esp playing new generation mastering, major headroom problems and over cast details enhancements.
this my personal opinion only.
Compressed music audiophiles....
  • #27,444
  • Oct 5, 2011 10:06pm Oct 5, 2011 10:06pm
Quoting fti
Ok last 3 songs, this not audiophile forum.
You should be able test your suytem well.

Tong LI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4vOPr9REr0

Xu Wen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR7tAyaKY5A

Teresa Teng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gggxfBgeW8E

Ok for alternative ear plugged audiophiles, ONLY Sennheiser series C60 and higher, little alternatives.
either headroom problems, or voice colouration.
Esp playing new generation mastering, major headroom problems and over cast details enhancements.
this...
i have these


http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears-.../dp/B0019RBJOE


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  • #27,445
  • Oct 5, 2011 10:11pm Oct 5, 2011 10:11pm
Quoting fti
Ok last 3 songs, this not audiophile forum.
You should be able test your suytem well.

Tong LI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4vOPr9REr0

Xu Wen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR7tAyaKY5A

Teresa Teng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gggxfBgeW8E

Ok for alternative ear plugged audiophiles, ONLY Sennheiser series C60 and higher, little alternatives.
Gosh, are you saying that I bought the wrong one?
I just recieved in the mail the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.
Somehow I got myself into electronic music, what a coincidence!?
Empty as water and soft as a facing wind mountain
  • #27,446
  • Edited 10:50pm Oct 5, 2011 10:11pm | Edited 10:50pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
i have these


http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears-.../dp/B0019RBJOE


V
Think a bit.
Anything isolates noise isolates sound by range. In amps is called the rollover frequencies.
Can it tell the difference between noise and music?
Do a little experiment. Add noise to your wav or flac or any lossless music files. Then use the best sound editors you can find. Then remove the noise then listen to the music again. What do you think?

My thinking is that if they still sound good , then mp3's the way to go.
You see, there are sounds you hear and there are sounds your body (CNS) picks up to complete the range. One example is standing waves from sound room environment.
Sound engineers major problems is to find ways make these sounds that you cannot hear sit down.( by either chopping then into pieces or by using stuff absorb them). Otherwise they behave like ghost to the most beautiful music.

Then there are the subs specialist that enhances 40 foot wave length undetectable sound waves in a 20 foot room. Well few people listen to music in a 40 foot room. no? already the sound waves have no where to go but reflect back at the source, and they enhance it.

regards

do another experiment. Select a weekly range from you trading charts, cut chart off at top and bottom of that range. then try analyse the chart. Brain twisters huh?
  • #27,447
  • Oct 5, 2011 10:30pm Oct 5, 2011 10:30pm
Quoting fti
Think a bit.
Anything isolates noise isolates sound by range.
Can it tell the difference between noise and music?
Do a little experiment. Add noise to your wav or flac or any lossless music files. Then use the best sound editors you can find. Then remove the noise then listen to the music again. What do you think?

My thinking is that if they still sound good , then mp3's the way to go.



regards
How can you know so much.......damn off to find a good headphone now AGAIN....these are going to be sold on ebay.....

what you recomend now before i go in wild world of searching...

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Darn....
  • #27,448
  • Oct 5, 2011 10:32pm Oct 5, 2011 10:32pm
Rest in peace .... if nothing a great innovator....


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  • #27,449
  • Oct 5, 2011 10:51pm Oct 5, 2011 10:51pm
Quoting fti
Think a bit.
Anything isolates noise isolates sound by range. In amps is called the rollover frequencies.
Can it tell the difference between noise and music?
Do a little experiment. Add noise to your wav or flac or any lossless music files. Then use the best sound editors you can find. Then remove the noise then listen to the music again. What do you think?

My thinking is that if they still sound good , then mp3's the way to go.
You see, there are sounds you hear and there are sounds your body (CNS) picks up to complete the...
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  • #27,450
  • Oct 5, 2011 10:54pm Oct 5, 2011 10:54pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
How can you know so much.......damn off to find a good headphone now AGAIN....these are going to be sold on ebay.....

what you recomend now before i go in wild world of searching...

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Darn....
refer
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...85#post5016285

is now in magenta for convenience
but only if you trust my ears.

regards
  • #27,451
  • Oct 5, 2011 11:05pm Oct 5, 2011 11:05pm
Quoting fti
refer
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...85#post5016285

is now in magenta for convenience
but only if you trust my ears.

regards
You mean this...

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-...7873917&sr=1-2


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  • #27,452
  • Oct 5, 2011 11:10pm Oct 5, 2011 11:10pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
You mean this...

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-...7873917&sr=1-2


V
oh i more familiar with the c series, but going with sen seldom go wrong.
Check with the manufacturer.

oh and if you getting mono blocks please use passive preamps, active ones adds colouration to source.

regards
  • #27,453
  • Oct 5, 2011 11:14pm Oct 5, 2011 11:14pm
Quoting fti
oh i more familiar with the c series, but going with sen seldom go wrong.
Check with the manufacturer.

oh and if you getting mono blocks please use passive preamps, active ones adds colouration to source.

regards
well which one you referring as i couldnt find it all even on there website...


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  • #27,454
  • Edited 11:45pm Oct 5, 2011 11:27pm | Edited 11:45pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
well which one you referring as i couldnt find it all even on there website...


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Oh maybe i am too old already. never mind the model, just demo the sen and see if you agree with me.

By the way be extremely careful if yen test. I think the boj have about 10B waiting for the naughties, and their MOF had made very clear statement about it already. 10B usd equavalent in yen. buys much pest poisons. And there are other sumos alongside ,the keidenren and the postal bank. Cannot fig their size yet.

regards
  • #27,455
  • Oct 5, 2011 11:46pm Oct 5, 2011 11:46pm
Quoting fti
Oh maybe i am too old already. never mind the model, just demo the sen and see if you agree with me.

By the way be extremely careful if yen test. I think the boj have about 10B waiting for the naughties, and their MOF had made very clear statement about it already. 10B usd equavalent in yen. buys much pest poisons. And there are other sumos alongside ,the keidenren and the postal bank. Cannot fig their size yet.

regards
i am litle on Long side like 5 troops (avg 76.80) ...out of 140 ......though clearly looking at down side...

but dont have guts to go short on BOJ....

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  • #27,456
  • Oct 6, 2011 12:24am Oct 6, 2011 12:24am
oi chief , how come so much knowledge in audio? thought u were a trader
To Live is the rarest thing in the world , Most people exist , that is all
  • #27,457
  • Oct 6, 2011 12:27am Oct 6, 2011 12:27am
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  • #27,458
  • Oct 6, 2011 2:31am Oct 6, 2011 2:31am
Quoting maheswara
oi chief , how come so much knowledge in audio? thought u were a trader
I think trading is also an art.
And it is about listening to the markets music.
And of cause there is some noise, that you do not like very much in audio as well as in the markets ...


Wish you all the best, friends!

CU in the markets,
Niels
  • #27,459
  • Edited 8:25am Oct 6, 2011 8:05am | Edited 8:25am
Quoting maheswara
oi chief , how come so much knowledge in audio? thought u were a trader :_D:grin:
mahes,
Not much knowledge, as audiophile need have some experience huh, after spending so much money supporting that industry? Peeps probably say wasted so much money. For me is not wasted, because is part of my life.
When I was teenager , i had a singer gf. She was a very determined character. She made to become one of the world's greatest. She managed a billion applause? But no matter, she is no longer with us now. God rest her soul.


mamood

how's life? heared you ok now.
doing good?


regards

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  • #27,460
  • Oct 6, 2011 10:18am Oct 6, 2011 10:18am
Quoting fti
mahes,
Not much knowledge, as audiophile need have some experience huh, after spending so much money supporting that industry? Peeps probably say wasted so much money. For me is not wasted, because is part of my life.
When I was teenager , i had a singer gf. She was a very determined character. She made to become one of the world's greatest. She managed a billion applause? But no matter, she is no longer with us now. God rest her soul.


mamood

how's life? heared you ok now.
doing good?


regards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lZYAaQoks8...
Havent heard this song...awesome...love the expression of the girl at 1:46....


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