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  • #321
  • Sep 7, 2011 10:40am Sep 7, 2011 10:40am
A bit more info on your reasons to sell
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  • #322
  • Sep 7, 2011 10:56am Sep 7, 2011 10:56am
I actually saw that, but wanted to hold for a scalp on the lower timeframe and not a longer term trade. i closed the trade for a loss. Disappointed but ill get better
  • #323
  • Sep 7, 2011 11:02am Sep 7, 2011 11:02am
Quoting firstaid
I actually saw that, but wanted to hold for a scalp on the lower timeframe and not a longer term trade. i closed the trade for a loss. Disappointed but ill get better
Shame. There was lots of PA to get you out of that one.

But keep trying (perhaps on demo?)
  • #324
  • Sep 7, 2011 11:24am Sep 7, 2011 11:24am
yes....it's on demo......still learning or else i would have left it a plus 1, but i thought it was going to be a nice drop
  • #325
  • Sep 7, 2011 12:12pm Sep 7, 2011 12:12pm
I took it because pin into supply with bear engulfing afterwards.
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  • #326
  • Sep 8, 2011 6:08pm Sep 8, 2011 6:08pm
Emene, what you posted in the Price is everything thread is the real question. Obv some of you know the answer to that question. Will the rest of us ever find out the answer without paying 12k or w/e the entry fee is on Sam's site? My money is on no! This article is why i find Sam's videos irrelevant!
  • #327
  • Sep 9, 2011 3:39am Sep 9, 2011 3:39am
Can you please elaborate? I dont't understand half of what you wrote.

Quoting Alexone
Emene, what you posted in the Price is everything thread is the real question. Obv some of you know the answer to that question. Will the rest of us ever find out the answer without paying 12k or w/e the entry fee is on Sam's site? My money is on no! This article is why i find Sam's videos irrelevant!
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  • #328
  • Sep 9, 2011 3:50am Sep 9, 2011 3:50am
OK i might have a blur idea of what you re implying.

You do not like the article, fine, I dont give a shit. You think I am here to make people to pay for Seiden's stuff ? I even didn't take the course myself, so what do I care ?

Finally, you're too dumb to spot obvious levels of supply and demand? And youre desperate cause u think u need to pay. Too bad.

If you take your fingers out of your ass, u can see that some odd enhancers are freely shared here : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=4549439#post4549439

Have a great day.

Quoting Alexone
Emene, what you posted in the Price is everything thread is the real question. Obv some of you know the answer to that question. Will the rest of us ever find out the answer without paying 12k or w/e the entry fee is on Sam's site? My money is on no! This article is why i find Sam's videos irrelevant!
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  • #329
  • Sep 9, 2011 9:27am Sep 9, 2011 9:27am
I was not implying that you are here to make ppl pay for Sam Seiden's courses. Im implying that everything HE does 'for free' IS. Which is understandable because he runs a business. In that article he states that there are 8 odds enhancers. He only 'discloses' 4 but not fully. I mean one of the odds enhancements is 'retracements'. So what does that mean? Im betting the other 4, which he doesnt talk about anywhere in his articles or videos is what separates winners from losers.

Im not desperate about anything. Was just making a statement. Dont know why you felt attacked. Maybe u are one of those morons who thinks that the whole world is revolving around them.

I dont want to start anything (apparently u do tho), just felt the need to respond! So keep it on topic!

Have a great day as well.
  • #330
  • Sep 9, 2011 10:00am Sep 9, 2011 10:00am
Quoting Alexone
I was not implying that you are here to make ppl pay for Sam Seiden's courses. Im implying that everything HE does 'for free' IS. Which is understandable because he runs a business. In that article he states that there are 8 odds enhancers. He only 'discloses' 4 but not fully. I mean one of the odds enhancements is 'retracements'. So what does that mean? Im betting the other 4, which he doesnt talk about anywhere in his articles or videos is what separates winners from losers.

Im not desperate about anything. Was just making a statement. Dont...
I am an OTA graduate and for starters the course is not £12K but much less than that. I know all the odds enhancers... does that mean I am going to share it with you... hell no!

What I can say is that there is enough in the PIE and RTP threads that should make you a consistent profitable trader.
  • #331
  • Sep 9, 2011 10:08am Sep 9, 2011 10:08am
Quoting Alexone
I was not implying that you are here to make ppl pay for Sam Seiden's courses. Im implying that everything HE does 'for free' IS. Which is understandable because he runs a business. In that article he states that there are 8 odds enhancers. He only 'discloses' 4 but not fully. I mean one of the odds enhancements is 'retracements'. So what does that mean? Im betting the other 4, which he doesnt talk about anywhere in his articles or videos is what separates winners from losers.

Im not desperate about anything. Was just making a statement. Dont...
Wow lets analyze this:

"So keep it on Topic"
This is a fucking chatroom thread to post some random charts, showboat, and relaxation from trading, emene was even before me one of the original regular posters on PIE making forecasts, calls and sharing his techniques for free. So as far as i am concerned he can do whatever the fuck he wants in here and any other goddamn thread created by PIE members.
You on the other hand i havent seen doing anything useful or even attempting to. I saw some of your posts on ROMTP, if youre really confused about seiden material most of it has been explained countless times on Romtp and PIE.

I didnt take seidens course, i dont care about seiden a lot but what is available freely ( and lets admit that theres quite a lot of valuable information he posts) is some amazing material that judging from your skill levels will easily improve your trading tenfold.

You seriously asking why retracements are one of the odd enhancers just shows me how unprepared you are. I bet you've just glanced at it briefly and thought to yourself:
"ZOMFG IM THE SMARTEST MAN AROUND WHY AM I NOT GETTING THIS IMMEDIATELY, THIS MUST BE BULLSHIT"

Let me clarify it for you mr sunshine, the way prices move back into a zone with all the factors is giving you a clear picture of how much demand or supply is still upthere. So if you are able to pick a clean zone one of the factors to consider is how prices moved back into the zone, from this data you will know how violently they will move out of it again. You probably didnt even spend an hour thinking about this and yet like a little bitch you whine about it. Spend enough time looking at charts and you will understand what plays a role, and you will be able to figure out the other odd enhancers for yourself rather quickly.

You know i could proceed explaining to you why with your attitude you will always be a subpar trader or perhaps even fail miserably but this quote of yours i found pretty much sums up what your problem is.

Quoting Alexone
Truth is Hungarian is right and all of you can hate me all u want and make fun of my Forex skills and number of posts. Cloggie you do nothing more than to brag on this thread. You dont explain nothing, u dont want to teach anyone , u are only here to pick on ppl. Thats it! And u have 20-30 ppl who kiss ur arse because they think, in their minds, u might throw them a bone. They dont understand the level of selfishness u achieved. Ur charts might as well be demo charts (though they are prolly real money). I have to say for 11k posts u have,...
In case youre not understanding what im getting at the point is this:

You are acting like a self entitled little bitch. You come on FF bitching about other people expecting them to hand over what amounts to months and years of hard work. Trust me when i say im not defending cloggie, infact i really couldnt give two shits about cloggie just as he doesnt give two shits about me, but i understand his perspective and i understand where he is coming from. And cloggie is one of the few people in here who freely speak their mind, yeah you are probably right that he has a fanclub of idiots who think he will throw them a bone. Chances are he wont for a very simple reason, if he is profitable he is not going to share all of his secrets except the really simple ones, because he worked to hard to figure it out on his own.

Nobody needs to give you anything at all. What? Were you seriously expecting anyone to seriously spend their time (which equals money) to babysitting you and explaining everything to you?
If yes then you are either delusional in which case you should see a doctor, or you are retarded, in which case you should get yourself sterelized in order to stop you from passing on your genes in this world.
I have emphasized this enough, trading isnt a community sport, its a business, fucking act like you are trying to build up a business for yourself or go the easy road and open a bakery or someshit like that. Because with your attitude ... you wont get far.


You're probably asking yourself why I'm acting really allergic towards your posting.
Simple: You don't insult a guy like Emene, because if you looked through his post history you would see how much free stuff he gave out in PIE with his trendline and fibtechniques using s/D and supply. Also how much he helped other people discussing Priceaction. Not to mention that he is a friend of mine and you are being a huge cunt.

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Maybe u are one of those morons who thinks that the whole world is revolving around them.

Funny how you were trying to insult michael with this statement and how it truly is a reflection of yourself.

I could spend the next couple of minutes criticizing you even further and verbally reducing you to ash... but you're not even worth a further minute of my time. Infact id rather dip my balls into acid than waste anymore time on you.

Have a nice day
  • #332
  • Sep 9, 2011 10:14am Sep 9, 2011 10:14am
OK we have action over here.
Do your time and enjoy the ride...
  • #333
  • Sep 9, 2011 10:22am Sep 9, 2011 10:22am
Quoting Alexone
Truth is Hungarian is right and all of you can hate me all u want and make fun of my Forex skills and number of posts. Cloggie you do nothing more than to brag on this thread. You dont explain nothing, u dont want to teach anyone , u are only here to pick on ppl. Thats it! And u have 20-30 ppl who kiss ur arse because they think, in their minds, u might throw them a bone. They dont understand the level of selfishness u achieved. Ur charts might as well be demo charts (though they are prolly real money). I have to say for 11k posts u have, i havent...
If you haven't learned anything of Cloggie then two planks comes to mind. It does seem to me that you require spoon feeding with a silver spoon and you simply won't get that! Now get of your lazy backside and do your fcuking homework. If you can't be arsed then you might as well give up now! You are a glosser and gloss over things. Maybe you should try understanding it and then practicing it before you throw your dummy out of the pram!

Everything Orbital said, I second it.

Nuff said!
  • #334
  • Sep 9, 2011 10:28am Sep 9, 2011 10:28am
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  • #335
  • Sep 9, 2011 11:43am Sep 9, 2011 11:43am
Seems emene has a lot of girlfriends.

You are right bbakker it doesnt cost 12k, it only costs 7500$ and then 625$ / month. Or 11.5k and 'the ability to retake this class for life'. My bad! Its easy to say i require spoon feeding after you enrolled to Seiden's class and saw how he trades. Say i have a question...if all the threads in here about supply/demand are so good, why did u feel the need to enroll in Sam Seiden's class? Was it because the threads were too good and u understood everything?

Quoting Orbital
Wow lets analyze this:

"So keep it on Topic"
This is a fucking chatroom thread to post some random charts, showboat, and relaxation from trading, emene was even before me one of the original regular posters on PIE making forecasts, calls and sharing his techniques for free. So as far as i am concerned he can do whatever the fuck he wants in here and any other goddamn thread created by PIE members.
You on the other hand i havent seen doing anything useful or even attempting to. I saw some of your posts on ROMTP, if youre really confused about...
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You're probably asking yourself why I'm acting really allergic towards your posting.
Simple: You don't insult a guy like Emene, because if you looked through his post history you would see how much free stuff he gave out in PIE with his trendline and fibtechniques using s/D and supply. Also how much he helped other people discussing Priceaction. Not to mention that he is a friend of mine and you are being a huge cunt.

I wasnt aware that ppl that have a certain number of posts/attachments can bash on ppl that didnt contribute much on these forums. And for a trader you are really transparent with your true reasons for 'defending' him. You are of course , a pms-ing idiot, because i wasnt accusing him of anything. So your entire tirade is for nothing.

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You are acting like a self entitled little bitch. You come on FF bitching about other people expecting them to hand over what amounts to months and years of hard work. Trust me when i say im not defending cloggie, infact i really couldnt give two shits about cloggie just as he doesnt give two shits about me, but i understand his perspective and i understand where he is coming from. And cloggie is one of the few people in here who freely speak their mind, yeah you are probably right that he has a fanclub of idiots who think he will throw them...

My post said that actually i dont expect ppl to give me their 'secrets', dont know how u got the wrong idea. Maybe u need a little bit of focus in your life! And about Cloggie...i dont understand the reason for him posting charts if hes not explaining them. Just to gloat? Some sort of god syndrome? Needs attention?

If nobody needs to give me anything at all, why do forums exist? Why do threads exist? Why do ppl like redsword exist? He has a giant thread where he goes out of his way to explain things to lazy, hard-headed ppl like me. And he doesnt hold anything back. Or at least that was how i felt. As opposed to Sam Seiden who says 'hey ill give u a half truth but its not enuff, u must join this to get the whole truth'. Actually, this whole thing started because emene was defending Sam. Are they brothers/lovers/parent and son what are they? Sorry, but i, personally, cant look up to someone that only tells you half truths. Either dont say anything in the first place or share it all!
  • #336
  • Sep 9, 2011 11:54am Sep 9, 2011 11:54am
OK this is becoming a bit too serious. I never took Seiden's course, I never met him, nor do I know anyone close to him, I only learned what I could with what I found in his webinars and articles.

About the odds enhancers, I do not know how many there are, nor I care about how many there are. I am trading with what I know, and this is enough for now.

I am thankful that he shared what he shared and i do not wonder if there is anything more. I think this is already enough. For the rest, I have nothing to say.

Let's trade, this place is no ghetto trash, and I intend it stays this way. If I was aggressive, it is because most of the time people do not make the efforts they need to do in order to succeed, and this is frustrating when you try to help them. Let's clear our minds and move on.

Quoting Alexone
Seems emene has a lot of girlfriends.

You are right bbakker it doesnt cost 12k, it only costs 7500$ and then 625$ / month. Or 11.5k and 'the ability to retake this class for life'. My bad! Its easy to say i require spoon feeding after you enrolled to Seiden's class and saw how he trades. Say i have a question...if all the threads in here about supply/demand are so good, why did u feel the need to enroll in Sam Seiden's class? Was it because the threads were too good and u understood everything?





I wasnt aware that ppl that have a certain...
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  • #337
  • Sep 9, 2011 12:56pm Sep 9, 2011 12:56pm
Déjà vu

The same trolls that attack decent people, in J16 we have some of this, comes each 4 or 5 months.
That's why good traders have gone..and rarely post again in FF.

Quoting Alexone
Seems emene has a lot of girlfriends.

You are right bbakker it doesnt cost 12k, it only costs 7500$ and then 625$ / month. Or 11.5k and 'the ability to retake this class for life'. My bad! Its easy .... .....
What does not kill me makes me stronger. Friedrich Nietzsche,
  • #338
  • Sep 9, 2011 1:15pm Sep 9, 2011 1:15pm
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  • #339
  • Sep 9, 2011 1:20pm Sep 9, 2011 1:20pm
Quoting emene
OK this is becoming a bit too serious. I never took Seiden's course, I never met him, nor do I know anyone close to him, I only learned what I could with what I found in his webinars and articles.

About the odds enhancers, I do not know how many there are, nor I care about how many there are. I am trading with what I know, and this is enough for now.

I am thankful that he shared what he shared and i do not wonder if there is anything more. I think this is already enough. For the rest, I have nothing to say.

Let's trade, this place is no ghetto...

If I was aggressive, it is because most of the time people do not make the efforts they need to do in order to succeed, and this is frustrating when you try to help them. Let's clear our minds and move on.

Ty for the answer. Truth is maybe i dont make the full effort to become profitable, in the sense that, maybe i dont know where or for what for to look (or for how long and how). I put in the time though. Either way u shouldnt care so much for ppl u dont know. I've read a lot of ur posts, still need to figure a lot of them out unfortunately for me, but i hope u know i appreciate what u are doing here!
  • #340
  • Sep 9, 2011 1:28pm Sep 9, 2011 1:28pm
Quoting Alexone
I wasnt aware that ppl that have a certain number of posts/attachments can bash on ppl that didnt contribute much on these forums. And for a trader you are really transparent with your true reasons for 'defending' him. You are of course , a pms-ing idiot, because i wasnt accusing him of anything. So your entire tirade is for nothing.
You know.. to use the phrase "you are really transparent" in the context you were trying to, i would have had to attempt to hide something.
I wasnt trying to hide anything, Emene is a friend of mine, you were being a cunt. More than enough reason for me, the rest was just a friendly reminder that you expect people to give you free shit.

Oh and as for calling me a "pms-ing idiot" because you werent accusing him of anything.. despite the fact that you mentioned him being a moron who thinks the world revolves around him... yeah... im not even going to bother to elaborate on why you're failing hard here.


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My post said that actually i dont expect ppl to give me their 'secrets', dont know how u got the wrong idea. Maybe u need a little bit of focus in your life! And about Cloggie...i dont understand the reason for him posting charts if hes not explaining them. Just to gloat? Some sort of god syndrome? Needs attention?

If nobody needs to give me anything at all, why do forums exist? Why do threads exist? Why do ppl like redsword exist? He has a giant thread where he goes out of his way to explain things to lazy, hard-headed ppl like me. And...

Wow... where do i start dissecting your idiocy here?

Forums exist for people to talk and discuss, what you are looking for is a mentor who holds you by your hand and guides you...
Why does cloggie post charts? probably to show people whats possible, same reason i sometimes post charts in here or even in PIE without much of an explanation. I expect people to try and understand and figure out for themselves why i took certain trades and then try to recreate the scenario for themselves. Its a different kind of sharing but you're probably not understanding this aswell. You should treat this more like a mathbook with complex problems whoose solution is being hinted at, instead of thinking of it like a mathbook with problems where an entire solution is posted at the back of the book with step by step explanations of how its done.

As for Redsword, i know him a lot better than you do, and im not going to get into the details on why he isnt posting anymore but its also partially because of stubborn, self entitled assholes like you who need their hand held and guided instead of figuring it out for themselves that he stopped posting.
Its also frankly the reason ive stopped posting onto PIE and most of the guys with the exception of ifmyante. Because ive gotten tired of people like you. Sam seiden is a business man, and as already stated.. this is a business, treat it as such. Oh and calling PIE a S/D thread just goes to show how that you really havent read throug hit or paid attention to it. As for the so called countless other pa and S/D threads, there are THREE(!!!! 3!!!!!!) threads on Forexfactory dealing with PA and S/D....
Trading is the meanest most ruthless and brutal environment you could be working in proffesionally. Its exhausting at times. FF is a place where i can blow steam sometimes and from time to time show a very small fraction of my trading.

Now you may feel free to call me a dick, but i have shared a whole bunch on PIE and im still on FF answering questions via PM's on a weekly basis, being in the threads, answering questions which i think deserve a response. Offering my free time to help out people. Tell me Alexone, what have you done so far? Except bitch around that people charge money for their services like sam seiden, or that people like cloggie arent helping people.

Trading isnt about sharing the wealth, its about getting wealthy. Now if i want to disclose calls or trading secrets only to friends of mine that is MY choice. If i feel like posting a killer trade and or setup without explaining the rational behind it that is MY choice. If i want to disclose or share business secrets that i spent several thousand hours on that is MY choice. Same applies to other traders. We dont owe you shit. My motives and intentions are clear, so are cloggies, he is here for fun nothing more nothing less. And you calling him or anyone else a gloater, or an attentionwhore just makes you sound jealous

The difference between you and other people here who are trying to learn is that the others arent complaining so fucking much and actually do their homework.
Let me tell you something else:
Some people in here who used to pull 50 pips are day tops and were treated like gods are pulling 500-2000 pips a day. You wanna know the secret to our success? We worked our fucking ass off to get there you freeloading maggot.

Enjoy the rest of your life, i truly hope you realise that noone on FF is going to hold your hand, success and failure in this business is entirely dependant on your willingness to learn, your ability to adapt, and your discipline to follow through.

All of which you are severely lacking on right now.

Good luck, i hope for your sake that your attitude changes because otherwise you will be eaten alive by the markets, trust me i know that from first hand experience.

Have a nice weekend.
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