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  • #21
  • Sep 5, 2011 7:35am Sep 5, 2011 7:35am
Hi John,

Your understanding is not at all limited - you nailed it! The only thing more would be to also implememt Steve's BB EA in the same way for an even more hands off solution. I think the possibilities are rather exciting....

Or as Dryclean pointed out, if there is anyone brave enought to attempt an EA implementation of Kos's strategy( http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=112522&page=250 starting with post 3742) - I know for sure that one works!
  • #22
  • Sep 5, 2011 7:52am Sep 5, 2011 7:52am
I skimmed thru that thread from page 250 onwards but think I got myself confused (skimming a thread is no substitute for actually reading it!!)

the only thing I could understand was that there was waiting for 4 HA candles to be the same color then enter

I am assuming you would then mean adding the NB 10.0 as the filter

ie. if UT only take 4 blue ha's, DT only take 4 red ha's, range - take both etc.

Quoting Telac
Hi John,

Your understanding is not at all limited - you nailed it! The only thing more would be to also implememt Steve's BB EA in the same way for an even more hands off solution. I think the possibilities are rather exciting....

Or as Dryclean pointed out, if there is anyone brave enought to attempt an EA implementation of Kos's strategy( http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=112522&page=250 starting...
  • #23
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:02am Sep 5, 2011 8:02am
Quoting Telac
Anyone have any trades yet today? None so far for me....
Same here. (Demo IBFX Au mini 1000USD deposit)
  • #24
  • Edited 11:54am Sep 5, 2011 8:32am | Edited 11:54am
John,

Not really though that would certainly be an interesting line to follow.

We really have 2 systems here, the one Kos developed using MTF HAS and the NB V10 system. In the beginning I basically followed the Kos system for trading T101; then I began to notice the new NB V10 rolling out and started dropping templates on the offline charts and noticed how well they pointed out the right direction.

I have always been interested in the T101 system since the early days when Julius was still posting. A number of attempts have been made at automating the system but so far none are successful that I know of. When Kos came up with the MTF HAS system it was a breakthrough for me and made trading the system manually much more easy and profitable. It's been quite a few months since Kos posted his system but to date no one has been able to implement it into an EA. I assume this is a difficult proposition partially to do to the offline chart situation which perhaps you have now solved. There also seems to be some difficulty in nailing down the rules in code as you can see if you look through the thread. At any rate, since it seems that an EA is not forthcoming for this system and noticing the NB V10 system development along with Steve’s EA I wondered if this perhaps would be easier to implement.

Observations: When trading manually from the offline chart I mostly use the 1 minute time frame with HAS set on M15 along with Bob's TMA indicator. I always keep a Daily offline chart open with Bob's template which keeps me clear on the direction. I trade the bounces off HAS or TMA in the direction of the Daily chart signal. You can scalp in this way if you’re feeling aggressive or just stay in with the trend.

There are many ways to trade the offline charts – another dead simple system for more longer term trades I use is simply the M30 chart with 50 and 200 MA lines drawn on it. The whole object for me is to find a system that is easy to automate while staying profitable. I just believe that with the T101 system there must be a way: Trading 14 pairs combined into a single chart smoothes out the bumps in individual currency jitter and as such makes any indicator more useful.

My thoughts
  • #25
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:34am Sep 5, 2011 8:34am
Quoting jmw1970
I skimmed thru that thread from page 250 onwards but think I got myself confused (skimming a thread is no substitute for actually reading it!!)

the only thing I could understand was that there was waiting for 4 HA candles to be the same color then enter

I am assuming you would then mean adding the NB 10.0 as the filter

ie. if UT only take 4 blue ha's, DT only take 4 red ha's, range - take both etc.
Go back and read everything Kos says from page 250 on
especially the last 10-20 post when he talks about using the 1 min tf with the 15 has and the 15 min tf with the 240 has
  • #26
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:39am Sep 5, 2011 8:39am
as I am currently still trying to learn NB v10.0 (although I am interested in this idea) I think will try to do as I outlined in my initial summary

ie. modify the standard NB ea's to deal with the basket

manually run the appropriate ea based on the daily read

will let you know how i get on, if sucessful then this could be incorporated into a scaled down version of bigbob
  • #27
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:46am Sep 5, 2011 8:46am
Great news John!

Thanks for your insight and efforts! Look forward to your input
  • #28
  • Sep 5, 2011 1:57pm Sep 5, 2011 1:57pm
For those of you using the T101 indi (with a very long name)

i have now extended the name to have tick_fix at the end

this version now sends ticks to the offline chart so that EA's can be run on the offline chart

regards, john
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  • #29
  • Sep 5, 2011 7:08pm Sep 5, 2011 7:08pm
as anyone knows the first thing to do when creating a robot is to first try and get some sort of signals being correctly generated for buy sell,

so far I have created a manual robot with signals, piccy below

it runs directly off the offline chart

so at the moment you have to give it the NB 10.0 "read", it then sends alerts when it thinks you should open a buy / sell basket

from the ea, you can open the basket, and close it, either visually directly off the chart (using the tp line (which is not pip driven)) or with a TP by value

likewise it can also hedge

it's pretty late here so I am sure i have coded in some bugs so will sleep now, then check again in the morning

after that i will post it as to be honest I have no real idea what this T101 stuff is about - then maybe some nice chap (or chapess i'm not sexist) could test it and at least let me know if the signals make sense.

Regards, John
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  • #30
  • Sep 5, 2011 11:58pm Sep 5, 2011 11:58pm
Hi John,

Wow, you are quick on your feet - much appreciated! Very interesting to see how the EA's turn out! The indi alone is a great leap forward enabling the use of EA's on the offline charts.

I think the more you read the T101 thread (actually there are a number of them) the more you will get a feel for the system and understand the benefits. In earlier days the system was much more difficult to keep track of but with the evolution of the offline charts, it's made things much easier.

Thanks again!
  • #31
  • Sep 6, 2011 6:48am Sep 6, 2011 6:48am
Anyone have any results yet - for me still no trades. The bot acts strange on my platform; after placing it on a chart and enabling it, I cannot again edit the settings, I have to remove it from the chart and put it back on to get to the settings again before enabling it.

Anyone else with feedback?

GG
  • #32
  • Sep 6, 2011 7:02am Sep 6, 2011 7:02am
The most likely reason why you cannot press F7 to edit your settings is because it is probably an ALWAYS ON bot, (ie. no ticks required)

Quoting Telac
Anyone have any results yet - for me still no trades. The bot acts strange on my platform; after placing it on a chart and enabling it, I cannot again edit the settings, I have to remove it from the chart and put it back on to get to the settings again before enabling it.

Anyone else with feedback?

GG
  • #33
  • Sep 6, 2011 7:31am Sep 6, 2011 7:31am
Thanks John,

This must be that case - had a PM advising me to dissable the experts tab, then try to edit..... same result.

Cheers
GG
  • #34
  • Sep 6, 2011 9:28am Sep 6, 2011 9:28am
To avoid cluttering up Steve's thread with my dismal attempts at coding I have opened a new thread to discuss the other possible implementation of T101 with NB

to keep in line with Steve's sense of humor this bot only uses ONE of NanningBob's Balls

thread can be found here
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=313360

Regards, John
  • #35
  • Sep 6, 2011 11:14am Sep 6, 2011 11:14am
Great idea John - I'm there!

Regarding this thread and Steve's bot, for me still not trades, starting to think I'm overlooking somthing basic which is not alltogether unusual. Any others testing with trades?
  • #36
  • Last Post: Sep 7, 2011 3:18am Sep 7, 2011 3:18am
I've been trying to find the ''14 Universal pairs'' to set this one up.
Can anyone tell me if it's these from Trading made simple thread ? post #51

Set 1(The Buys)
1) GBPUSD
2) EURGBP
3) GBPJPY
4) USDCHF
5) NZDUSD
6) AUDJPY
7) EURJPY
Set 2 (The Sells)
8) EURUSD
9) USDJPY
10) AUDUSD
11) NZDJPY
12) GBPCHF
13) CHFJPY
14) EURCHF

If I've got it wrong can anyone put me right please ?

Cheers
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