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  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 5, 2011 8:07am Sep 5, 2011 8:07am
I recently applied an indicator from the synergy method to my charts. Its called the Trader's Dynamic Index. It is freely available on the web in various locations.

However this indicator does not recalculate with every tick as it is supposed to. The only way I can get it to recalculate is to refresh the chart manually. I know it is not supposed to be like this but can't figure out why.

I have tried downloading a fresh copy off the net...no good. I installed a fresh copy of the MT4 platform and placed the indicator (again a fresh copy) as the only other indicator in the platform...again, no good.

I've called the people at compass fx who have told me I'm the only one who has ever experienced this problem...hummm!

Anyway, is there anyone with any ideas how to fix this problem? Could it be something unique to my computer? Anyone?
  • #2
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:18am Sep 5, 2011 8:18am
i think i've seen several TDIs floating around here. try them out.
also, u can try updating your MT4 build. (current build is 402 to 406, i believe)
  • #3
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:22am Sep 5, 2011 8:22am
Quoting gspajon
I recently applied an indicator from the synergy method to my charts. Its called the Trader's Dynamic Index. It is freely available on the web in various locations.

However this indicator does not recalculate with every tick as it is supposed to. The only way I can get it to recalculate is to refresh the chart manually. I know it is not supposed to be like this but can't figure out why.
What makes you think it's supposed to recalculate on every tick ? from what I can see it only recalculates when a new bar arrives . .
20 pips a day isn't too much to ask . . .
  • #4
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:35am Sep 5, 2011 8:35am
Quoting supremeChaos
i think i've seen several TDIs floating around here. try them out.
also, u can try updating your MT4 build. (current build is 402 to 406, i believe)
Been there...done that...


Quoting RaptorUK
What makes you think it's supposed to recalculate on every tick ? from what I can see it only recalculates when a new bar arrives . .
AHA! That is what I'm talking about. It is my understanding that the indicator is supposed to run through the entire calculation on every tick...It that NOT correct? I have written some EA's and one or two indicators and everyone of them calculates the entire code on each tick. I have looked at the source code on this indicator and cannot find any instruction that tells it to calculate only on a new bar.

Can you clarify?
  • #5
  • Sep 5, 2011 8:57am Sep 5, 2011 8:57am
Quoting gspajon
.. It is my understanding that the indicator is supposed to run through the entire calculation on every tick...It that NOT correct? I have written some EA's and one or two indicators and everyone of them calculates the entire code on each tick. I have looked at the source code on this indicator and cannot find any instruction that tells it to calculate only on a new bar.
...
im not a programmer, but from what i know not all indicators calculate on each tick.
i believe tick-based calculations use up more PC/processor power.
i believe it is only beneficial on a select few instances/indicators.
  • #6
  • Sep 5, 2011 9:26am Sep 5, 2011 9:26am
Quoting gspajon
I have looked at the source code on this indicator and cannot find any instruction that tells it to calculate only on a new bar.

Can you clarify?
Add the Print statement, compile the code, run it on M1, look at the Experts tab . . .

Inserted Code
int start()
  {
   double MA,RSI[];
   ArrayResize(RSI,Volatility_Band);
   int counted_bars=IndicatorCounted();
   int limit = Bars-counted_bars-1;

   Print("limit = ",limit);         // add this

   for(int i=limit; i>=0; i--)
20 pips a day isn't too much to ask . . .
  • #7
  • Sep 5, 2011 10:39am Sep 5, 2011 10:39am
Quoting RaptorUK
Add the Print statement, compile the code, run it on M1, look at the Experts tab . . .

Inserted Code
int start()
  {
   double MA,RSI[];
   ArrayResize(RSI,Volatility_Band);
   int counted_bars=IndicatorCounted();
   int limit = Bars-counted_bars-1;

   Print("limit = ",limit);         // add this

   for(int i=limit; i>=0; i--)
Thank you very much for this suggestion...I tried but but NOTHING prints. Not on the tick and not on the bar update...not even when I refresh the chart.
  • #8
  • Sep 5, 2011 11:21am Sep 5, 2011 11:21am
Quoting gspajon
However this indicator does not recalculate with every tick as it is supposed to.
//---

hey gspajon..... we would need to see the exact code in full your lookin at..... the common tdi calculates on every tick.....

are you calling the tdi for use in an ea or another indicator......h
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 TDI.mq4   9 KB | 287 downloads
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #9
  • Edited 11:34am Sep 5, 2011 11:23am | Edited 11:34am
Quoting gspajon
Thank you very much for this suggestion...I tried but but NOTHING prints. Not on the tick and not on the bar update...not even when I refresh the chart.
Well it printed when I compiled it and added it to a chart . . . where are you looking to see the output ?

Sample output . . .


2011.09.05 14:19:30TradersDynamicIndex EURGBP,M1: limit = 0
2011.09.05 14:19:29TradersDynamicIndex EURGBP,M1: limit = 0
2011.09.05 14:19:28TradersDynamicIndex EURGBP,M1: limit = 1
2011.09.05 14:19:27TradersDynamicIndex EURGBP,M1: limit = 0
2011.09.05 14:19:27TradersDynamicIndex EURGBP,M1: limit = 0
2011.09.05 14:19:26TradersDynamicIndex EURGBP,M1: limit = 0
20 pips a day isn't too much to ask . . .
  • #10
  • Sep 5, 2011 11:38am Sep 5, 2011 11:38am
Quoting RaptorUK
Well it printed when I compiled it and added it to a chart . . . where are you looking to see the output ?
I was looking in the experts tab on the trade screen...where you see your trades , trading history, News, Alerts...etc.

When I installed the copy of the TDI you sent it works just as you said and just I originally expected. However, I do note some differences in the two code...minor but different. For example the settings are hard coded where the one I have they are user variable.

Did you make these changes or is this how you received it? Just curious. For my purposes I don't think this will make much difference...I am just wanting something that I can be confident is accurate to the last tick and not something that will repaint with each new bar. (I hope you know what I mean).

I'm going to work with this a little bit and get back...this may be what I was looking for...I have no idea why this one works the way its supposed to and the other one doesn't but I'm going to find out why.

I'll compare the code line by line and see what comes up...this is a good learning experience for me.
  • #11
  • Sep 5, 2011 12:10pm Sep 5, 2011 12:10pm
Quoting gspajon
I was looking in the experts tab on the trade screen...where you see your trades , trading history, News, Alerts...etc.

When I installed the copy of the TDI you sent it works just as you said and just I originally expected. However, I do note some differences in the two code...minor but different. For example the settings are hard coded where the one I have they are user variable.
I didn't send it . . . I found a copy on the Internet just as you said . . .


Quoting gspajon
Did you make these changes or is this how you received it? Just curious. For my purposes I don't think this will make much difference...I am just wanting something that I can be confident is accurate to the last tick and not something that will repaint with each new bar. (I hope you know what I mean).

I'm going to work with this a little bit and get back...this may be what I was looking for...I have no idea why this one works the way its supposed to and the other one doesn't but I'm going to find out why.

I'll compare the code line by...
the only thing I changed/added was the Print statement . .

Perhaps you should upload the version of the Indicator that you are talking about or post a link to it rather than assuming that the version I have downloaded is the same as the one you have ?
20 pips a day isn't too much to ask . . .
  • #12
  • Sep 5, 2011 12:18pm Sep 5, 2011 12:18pm
Quoting RaptorUK
I didn't send it . . . I found a copy on the Internet just as you said . . .




the only thing I changed/added was the Print statement . .

Perhaps you should upload the version of the Indicator that you are talking about or post a link to it rather than assuming that the version I have downloaded is the same as the one you have ?
Attached is the file I was using...when this mess started. It is virtually the same in the calculation part. The only difference as far as I can tell, is that the settings on TDI are 'hard coded' and the settings on TradersDynamicIndex are users definable. Not to mention those setting are different but that is irrelevant to this conversation. The other difference is there is an alert coded in the Traders Dynamic Index that is not coded on the TDI.

When I placed the two codes side by side I see no difference in the calculations performed or anything that would tell the code to calculate ONLY on a new bar.

By the way...I didn't thank you for your help thus far...I truly appreciate it. THANK YOU
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 TradersDynamicIndex.mq4   9 KB | 336 downloads
  • #13
  • Edited 1:06pm Sep 5, 2011 12:35pm | Edited 1:06pm
Here is a modified one:
TDI_RT.mq4:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...49#post4863449
Direct Link to indicator:
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...4&d=1313090581

Post about what is wrong with the original indicator:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...48#post4621048
  • #14
  • Sep 5, 2011 12:53pm Sep 5, 2011 12:53pm
Quoting Xaphod
Here is a modified one:
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...4&d=1313090581

Post about what is wrong with the original indicator:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...48#post4621048
Xaphod...This solution worked GREAT...thank you so very much. The first link you sent went nowhere for me but I read the thread and made the adjustment manually. I see the bug now as plain as day...why I didn't catch that the first time (or the 30th time) I do not know...

I truly appreciate this thanks for sharing...I know I am not going insane even though it seems that way at times.
  • #15
  • Sep 5, 2011 1:10pm Sep 5, 2011 1:10pm
Quoting gspajon
Xaphod...This solution worked GREAT...thank you so very much. The first link you sent went nowhere for me but I read the thread and made the adjustment manually. I see the bug now as plain as day...why I didn't catch that the first time (or the 30th time) I do not know.
You are welcome.
  • #16
  • Last Post: Sep 5, 2011 3:41pm Sep 5, 2011 3:41pm
Quoting Xaphod
Here is a modified one:
aha.... now i see.... .....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
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