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  • #1
  • First Post: Aug 23, 2011 3:14pm Aug 23, 2011 3:14pm
This thread is purely created for traders that struggling with Supply/Demand Zones.

For experienced traders, you are welcome to share your insights.

For the newbies, you are welcome to post charts with question. I won't be the one to answer it.

But let's learn together.
  • #2
  • Aug 23, 2011 3:15pm Aug 23, 2011 3:15pm
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any comments are welcome.
  • #3
  • Edited 5:30pm Aug 23, 2011 4:49pm | Edited 5:30pm
I believe if you look closely you will see that he drew the upper supply area along the lower edge on the bodies of 4 bars ( the bodies are small) with longer bars on the entry and exit of the area.
Looks perfectly normal imo.

The demand area looks in keeping with his methods.. They will not always look exactly alike... bars are bars and they do not all form the same..

jmo.
  • #4
  • Aug 25, 2011 11:01am Aug 25, 2011 11:01am
This image is from Sam Seiden. I agree that it's a bit difficult to follow.
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  • #5
  • Aug 25, 2011 11:20am Aug 25, 2011 11:20am
Quoting bparks
This image is from Sam Seiden. I agree that it's a bit difficult to follow.
1. So in the chart above, in the middle of the chart, there is also another huge up bar, why demand wasn't drawn there?

2. The way the demand zone was drawn, if you compare closely to the supply zone, again, they were drawn in a totally different ways. Supply zone with Bear Bar body and upper wick. Demand zone is drawn with only the wicks with some of the body.
  • #6
  • Edited 11:42am Aug 25, 2011 11:32am | Edited 11:42am
1. I'm not sure why it wasn't drawn, but price had a large bounce from it on the way back down.

2. I don't understand it either.

Maybe if we add more examples someone will help to clarify.
  • #7
  • Aug 25, 2011 2:21pm Aug 25, 2011 2:21pm
http://www.tradingacademy.com/lesson...s20080516.shtm
"It is a good idea to make sure that the vast majority of trading is between your two lines. While it would be easy for me to say "include wicks" or "not", the truth is that each time you change the time frame, some wicks become bodies and some bodies become wicks. Take a look at that area on two different time frames to determine where the majority of trading is and draw your lines there. Using the highs and lows of the candles are fine but often that makes for a very large stop which is not ideal." - Sam Seiden
  • #8
  • Aug 25, 2011 3:19pm Aug 25, 2011 3:19pm
Quoting leelar
1. So in the chart above, in the middle of the chart, there is also another huge up bar, why demand wasn't drawn there?

2. The way the demand zone was drawn, if you compare closely to the supply zone, again, they were drawn in a totally different ways. Supply zone with Bear Bar body and upper wick. Demand zone is drawn with only the wicks with some of the body.
I will try to answer this to the best of my ability. Demand levels was were wholesale buyers got in and the long green candle in the middle is where most retail customers like us decide to jump on the train and often it is too late and we find ourselves upside down in our trade. That is the way I see it anyway and I hope that helps.
Please ask questions and share your experiences with us all!
  • #9
  • Aug 25, 2011 9:41pm Aug 25, 2011 9:41pm
Quoting bparks
http://www.tradingacademy.com/lesson...s20080516.shtm
"It is a good idea to make sure that the vast majority of trading is between your two lines. While it would be easy for me to say "include wicks" or "not", the truth is that each time you change the time frame, some wicks become bodies and some bodies become wicks. Take a look at that area on two different time frames to determine where the majority of trading is and draw your lines there. Using the highs and lows of the candles are fine but often that makes for a very large...
great find, traders help traders, Thanks, let's look into the charts.
  • #10
  • Aug 25, 2011 9:44pm Aug 25, 2011 9:44pm
Quoting bkg102665
I will try to answer this to the best of my ability. Demand levels was were wholesale buyers got in and the long green candle in the middle is where most retail customers like us decide to jump on the train and often it is too late and we find ourselves upside down in our trade. That is the way I see it anyway and I hope that helps.
I appreciate your time and answer.

But that doesn't convince me. No offence.
  • #11
  • Aug 25, 2011 9:45pm Aug 25, 2011 9:45pm
I thought I put this thread into trading discussion. Did it get moved or I made a mistake? weird.
  • #12
  • Aug 26, 2011 11:35am Aug 26, 2011 11:35am
Quoting leelar
I thought I put this thread into trading discussion. Did it get moved or I made a mistake? weird.
My thread has been moved three times. Not sure why or how?
Please ask questions and share your experiences with us all!
  • #13
  • Aug 27, 2011 7:08pm Aug 27, 2011 7:08pm
Hi all.

I have learn this method 4 years ago. I still use this S&D as my trade analysis. As my experienced, it isn't easy to copy paste follow Sam's method, especially limit order at zone. Actually at Odds Enhancer trade plan there's any choice which trade use limit or use confirmation first.
I rarely use limit order. Usually i need confirmation price action at wholesale and retail zone.



masut
  • #14
  • Sep 5, 2011 4:13pm Sep 5, 2011 4:13pm
I have watched many of Sam Seiden's free webinars/videos. Is it me or are most of them pretty much the same thing? The titles are different but the content doesn't really change to much from video to video. The videos leave alot to be desired. The cost of getting the "good stuff" is prohibitive and anything I have ever paid for in the past has been a waste of money. So I don't plan on paying thousands of dollars for this either.

I think I understand the basic concept and have been trading using the s/d zones for the last couple of weeks with very good success. Right now e/u, g/u and a/u all appear to be in demand zones on the 4 hour and daily time frames. Sorry no good at posting charts.
  • #15
  • Sep 5, 2011 4:36pm Sep 5, 2011 4:36pm
Quoting Winston Reed
I have watched many of Sam Seiden's free webinars/videos. Is it me or are most of them pretty much the same thing? The titles are different but the content doesn't really change to much from video to video. The videos leave alot to be desired. The cost of getting the "good stuff" is prohibitive and anything I have ever paid for in the past has been a waste of money. So I don't plan on paying thousands of dollars for this either.

I think I understand the basic concept and have been trading using the s/d zones for the last couple of weeks...
i am a subscriber to sam seidens paid teachings, and the reason why all his zones look different etc, because there is no exact, rule, he manipulates it AFTER the trade took place to look a bit more perfect basically as advertising.

As much as his free videos seem enough to learn and trade from, you will always be craving inside for the paid stuff, and thats how sam and his school make thier money by the cravings of the weak.

I dont doubt supply and demand works, but please remember as good as it sounds all of Seidens videos are a hidden advertisement and free taster that we dont even know we are recieving.
  • #16
  • Sep 7, 2011 5:54am Sep 7, 2011 5:54am
I have to agree with this also. I think there is merit to the way they use supply & demand zones and I myself take note of these when doing my analysis. But as said below the examples from Sam are after the fact and you'll only ever see good examples.

I think the number of dead Supply & Demand threads on here is testament to the frustration of traders following this strategy.

Quoting deankenny21
i am a subscriber to sam seidens paid teachings, and the reason why all his zones look different etc, because there is no exact, rule, he manipulates it AFTER the trade took place to look a bit more perfect basically as advertising.

As much as his free videos seem enough to learn and trade from, you will always be craving inside for the paid stuff, and thats how sam and his school make thier money by the cravings of the weak.

I dont doubt supply and demand works, but please remember as good as it sounds all of Seidens videos are a hidden advertisement...
  • #17
  • Sep 17, 2011 2:53am Sep 17, 2011 2:53am
in which way does supply and demand zones differ from support and resistance I wonder? it pretty much looks the same to me
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #18
  • Sep 17, 2011 4:48am Sep 17, 2011 4:48am
Quoting roughtrader
in which way does supply and demand zones differ from support and resistance I wonder? it pretty much looks the same to me
in the way that it's easier to market some new and amazing product and the sheep is always on the lookout for the holy grail. I guess that's the whole point really.
  • #19
  • Sep 18, 2011 9:40am Sep 18, 2011 9:40am
I have just learnt about supply and demand zones, how it works, how to place them, etc, and this really helps with price action. It divides and lets you know who are the weak traders, and who are the big players.

True goldmine. Knowledge i won't find if it werent for Goldman.

Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #20
  • Sep 18, 2011 9:42am Sep 18, 2011 9:42am
Quoting bumapatria
I have just learnt about supply and demand zones, how it works, how to place them, etc, and this really helps with price action. It divides and lets you know who are the weak traders, and who are the big players.

True goldmine. Knowledge i won't find if it werent for Goldman.

dont forget it was me that sparked you off to start taking away indicators and to look at supply and demand
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