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  • Jul 22, 2011 1:59pm Jul 22, 2011 1:59pm
  •  jaguar1637
  • Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 221 Posts
Quoting Jack168
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Hi, John,

I don't use shift. Window size, I use 100 to 170 bars.

Colour candles, GRaB Candle Long, GRaB_indicators.rar,... something or, stoch_candle, RSI_candle indicator...

Good weekend.
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Thank you and have a nice week-end
 
 
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  •  crashout
  • | Joined Oct 2006 | Status: Member | 373 Posts
Hello all,

I re-read the thread and i see somewhere that John speaks about the :"KH i-Regr v1.mq4 ".

But i don't find it in the attachments section ?

If anyone have this, can you share it please ?

Thanks !
 
 
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  • Aug 5, 2011 4:36am Aug 5, 2011 4:36am
  •  jaguar1637
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Hello all,
I re-read the thread and i see somewhere that John speaks about the :"KH i-Regr v1.mq4 ". But i don't find it in the attachments section ?
If anyone have this, can you share it please ?
Thanks !
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Well, I found this release in my magician's hat.

The smoothing is very interesting... but ... but...all those indicators work w/ the concept of constant weights attached at each values (prices and volume), like if any independant value were not separable from others, and if any independant value got the same weight as all other values. worse, there is no concept of market phase distinction.

Remind, all values shown on markets are biaised and should be understood as estimated values shown on the market. The reality of the market can not be drawn on a chart.

Rgds

Did you know ? Apple has more cash than the US government !
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File Type: mq4 KH NLev-Regr CurveFit v3.mq4   13 KB | 2,012 downloads
 
 
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  • Aug 5, 2011 5:07am Aug 5, 2011 5:07am
  •  crashout
  • | Joined Oct 2006 | Status: Member | 373 Posts
Quoting jaguar1637
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Well, I found this release in my magician's hat.

The smoothing is very interesting... but ... but...all those indicators work w/ the concept of constant weights attached at each values (prices and volume), like if any independant value were not separable from others, and if any independant value got the same weight as all other values. worse, there is no concept of market phase distinction.

Remind, all values shown on markets are biaised and should be understood as estimated values shown on the market. The reality of the market can not be...
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Thanks for the indicator, very nice to share !

For apple yes, i read that on business insider i think.

76 billions, come on Steve, we just need some free macbook pro
 
 
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  • Aug 5, 2011 8:13am Aug 5, 2011 8:13am
  •  jaguar1637
  • Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 221 Posts
Quoting crashout
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Thanks for the indicator, very nice to share !

For apple yes, i read that on business insider i think.

76 billions, come on Steve, we just need some free macbook pro
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Yep, note I have modified some parameters for optimization, in the release I just sent to you

extern int RegrOrdr = 5; // 3; degree (5 seemed better)
extern double StdDev = 2; // Kernel Standard Deviation
extern int RegrPrd = 21;
extern int AppPrice = PRICECLS;

RegrOrdr should be at least 3, or 5 or 7 (always impair)
StdDev 2 ( may be 2.2 or 2.4) I tried several values for testing
RegrPrd 21 ( I tried other values , you can try 17 or 19)
extern int AppPrice = PRICECLS; (I tried PRICEHA w/o being successfull)

I decreased the number of bars from 10000 to 3000,

I tried to implement the Polynomial Regression on the StochasticDiNapoli, but did not finish it, (lack of time)

Yep, Apple is richer than the US government !
 
 
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  • Aug 6, 2011 5:17pm Aug 6, 2011 5:17pm
  •  balouf
  • | Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 279 Posts
I have found two kinds of Hull Indicators.
This is the result of the combination.
The parameters for HMA Color : 20 - 1 - 0

These for HMA Russian Color : 21 - 3 - 0

I tri to do better but in vain
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File Type: mq4 HMA_Russian_Color.mq4   4 KB | 1,333 downloads
 
 
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  • Aug 6, 2011 7:53pm Aug 6, 2011 7:53pm
  •  jaguar1637
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Quoting balouf
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I have found two kinds of Hull Indicators.
This is the result of the combination.
The parameters for HMA Color : 20 - 1 - 0

These for HMA Russian Color : 21 - 3 - 0

I tri to do better but in vain
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HMA repainting ???

if yes, forget it
 
 
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  • Aug 12, 2011 10:59am Aug 12, 2011 10:59am
  •  jaguar1637
  • Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 221 Posts
HI
There are several way tos deal w/ time-series.
neural stuff and pattern searches are common tools

I tried several and different things regarding algorythms based on regression linear.
So, calculating shows me that unit Root testing is motivated by the need to avoid spurious regressions.

Also, after playing w/ Burg alogrythms, I notice regression coefficient seemed to be lagged

The usual t distribution is not applicable but simulation is needed to construct a suitable sampling distribution of test stat.
Also, we are in front of the well-known problem in econometrics that errors are autocorrelated.

After that, I reach the point of the Cointegration engle-Granger . IMHO, the only way to implement this, is to use R.

Well, is there anybody able to answer me regarding the possibility ?

The goals are simple:
- fetch a time -series
- apply the cointegration engle-granger
- launch a regression w/ this algo

rgds





 
 
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  • Aug 12, 2011 4:27pm Aug 12, 2011 4:27pm
  •  Jack168
  • | Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 348 Posts
Hi, John,

I haven't read this article yet. Two men did get Nobal prize on this topic, I believe. Google key word, may find the paper.

I found 2 problems are hard to understand or fix.
1. when a nonlinear regression (Quad) just establish(find) a possible trend, then, price smash the band very fast. In forex, "V" type of reversal often happen.

2. price(bar) often move out of regression band, and became data island, and it cause regression result to be changed swiftly, 1 or 2 data can change regression result to be completely different. Terrible problem !

Cheers!
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  • Aug 14, 2011 4:31am Aug 14, 2011 4:31am
  •  jaguar1637
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Quoting Jack168
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I found 2 problems are hard to understand or fix.
1. when a nonlinear regression (Quad) just establish(find) a possible trend, then, price smash the band very fast. In forex, "V" type of reversal often happen.
2. price(bar) often move out of regression band, and became data island, and it cause regression result to be changed swiftly, 1 or 2 data can change regression result to be completely different. Terrible problem !

Cheers!
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So now, is there any tool to watch accumulation orders ?

This is a mandatory one

Rgds
john
 
 
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  • Aug 14, 2011 7:43am Aug 14, 2011 7:43am
  •  surfeur
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Quoting jaguar1637
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So now, is there any tool to watch accumulation orders ?

This is a mandatory one

Rgds
john
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Jaguar,

Maybe www.orderbookfx.com !?
 
 
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  • Aug 14, 2011 8:58am Aug 14, 2011 8:58am
  •  Jack168
  • | Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 348 Posts
Quoting jaguar1637
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So now, is there any tool to watch accumulation orders ?

This is a mandatory one

Rgds
john
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I am not sure about "accumulation orders" ? what do you means? dealer's level 2 order book?

There is tool to monitor the state of profit/loss of all open trades(open orders). You can google to find out in ff, may be in EA: snow_rolls. That guy post an indicator to show all win/loss of open trades.

My EA do a calculation for state of all open trades after a new bar processing, and store equity and balance values into global variable in mt4. Then, an indicator use data to shows equity curve in a another window.

Try to do an experiment about track equity curve(win/loss of all open trades) for position management. I found, it is a new issue to protect the equity curve for volatile fx trading, which may be a key issue for optimized trend trading. No much talking on this point from guru or expert. Don't know why?
 
 
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  • Aug 14, 2011 10:40am Aug 14, 2011 10:40am
  •  jaguar1637
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Jaguar,

Maybe www.orderbookfx.com !?
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Thank you

I will check it

Rgds john
 
 
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  • Aug 14, 2011 10:43am Aug 14, 2011 10:43am
  •  jaguar1637
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Quoting Jack168
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I am not sure about "accumulation orders" ? what do you means? dealer's level 2 order book?

There is tool to monitor the state of profit/loss of all open trades(open orders). You can google to find out in ff, may be in EA: snow_rolls. That guy post an indicator to show all win/loss of open trades.

My EA do a calculation for state of all open trades after a new bar processing, and store equity and balance values into global variable in mt4. Then, an indicator use data to shows equity curve in a another window.

Try to do an experiment...
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Yep!
Can you help me ?
I find nothing w/ google about snow_rolls

In fact, I am asking to watch all open trades on the currency chart, not just the ones opened by one EA on a personal account

Rgds
 
 
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  • Aug 15, 2011 2:10am Aug 15, 2011 2:10am
  •  Jack168
  • | Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 348 Posts
Hi, John,

Here is the threat on ff:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=286352

He call Basket_Stats, mt4 indicators are in his webpage.


there are other mt4 indicator: i-Profittrader; iExposure.
 
 
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  • Aug 15, 2011 3:57pm Aug 15, 2011 3:57pm
  •  jaguar1637
  • Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 221 Posts
Quoting Jack168
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Hi, John,

Here is the threat on ff:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=286352

He call Basket_Stats, mt4 indicators are in his webpage.
there are other mt4 indicator: i-Profittrader; iExposure.
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thank a lot !
 
 
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  • Aug 17, 2011 3:33pm Aug 17, 2011 3:33pm
  •  jaguar1637
  • Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 221 Posts
Hi Guys

For those who are afraid about prediction tolls, take a look on this:

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/scie...on-models/9840

This tool shoudl work on FF, isn'it ??

Rgds john
 
 
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  • Aug 18, 2011 9:40am Aug 18, 2011 9:40am
  •  Jack168
  • | Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 348 Posts
Hi, John,

There are plenty of tools for forex prediction(forecast), some are open, some are unknown yet.

Data-driven alpha models are used by somebody, but, no news about this area. Data mining is a wide research area for while. I am not expert in this area, will find time to study.

This book "Evidence-Based Technical Analysis: Applying the Scientific Method and Statistical Inference to Trading Signals" by David Aronson
may be a start point to enroute into this area. I claim I haven't read this book yet. I will have to read it in sometime. Any opinion about book?

 
 
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  • Aug 18, 2011 9:53am Aug 18, 2011 9:53am
  •  Jack168
  • | Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 348 Posts
Hi, John,

There is a research article about "Non-Linear Predictability" from FED.
But,
1. I don't know if TAR or STAR is the same with your i-Regr?
2. Can anybody create TAR or STAR in mt4 code? Then, we can try the method in fx to see if it is workable?

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  • Aug 19, 2011 6:07am Aug 19, 2011 6:07am
  •  MasterThesis
  • | Joined Aug 2011 | Status: Junior Member | 2 Posts
Hello Trader.

I write my master thesis about algo trading.
And I try to figure out, If it’s necessary or not for a Property Trader (a trader how trade only with his own money) to use algo trading.

What is your opinion and experience???
Thx
 
 
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