Is the scribbled graph a random noise?... Find me a random atom that has no purpose in this universe
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Mankind has been (objectively) quantifying it for centuries.
Anything that has been transcribed unto the tangible (a piece of paper):
Here is a brain wave
Gamma (40 Hz to 70 Hz) - Associated with perception and consciousness.
Of course there is a sixth (0 Hz) - Associated with the unknown...
just like how it took mankind centuries to realize that gravity exist.... That gravity is an unseen force...
By the way are you colour blind?
By the way are you colour blind?
But clearly you lack the mental reasoning to understand why it is so. You also lack the emotional quotient because it irritates you!
You also shouldn't trade until you get these 2 skills up to par.
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- Edited 8:54am Aug 5, 2011 8:17am | Edited 8:54am
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(Some may get this and some won't) Here I drew a graph without thinking. I just simply scribbled it. I suggest you too grab a piece of paper a scribble a graph without thinking. And now, look at the graph.... Is the graph a random noise... or is it a unseen force transcribed unto our material plane, which is out of your comprehension and understanding?
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[left]This unseen force which animates all life is govern by a certain law. It will always behave as it suppose...
My interpretation of your random chart is that you were thinking of regularity, given the links you just typed in. Only, there was no conclusion, so only a partial, linear regularity was present. Then, a lull in thinking brought momentum far below the thought with the links, and your graph was (supposed to) tie it all together by being balanced both vertically and horizontally, i.e. the third area in my version below.
I can understand that the rightmost peak is higher than and curved to the left with the other peaks in the third area -- to oppose and finish the frame with the leftmost area, as if to complete the argument. What I don't understand is the convex curve on the rightmost side of the chart: An increasing/preparative umbrage, or what.
Anyways, since the righthand area's pivots are higher than those of its compatriot the lefthand area, momentum does lead into the righthand area, and the rightmost side's curve is upward,
a bullish trade may be profitable, although a possible retest of momentum's stages may also be in order and thus a time to limit loss.
No.
But clearly you lack the mental reasoning to understand why it is so. You also lack the emotional quotient because it irritates you!
You also shouldn't trade until you get these 2 skills up to par.
A bit of a harsh and irrational response there...
I was asking a genuine question because of the shade of 'red' you use in replies, sorry.
Anyway I wasn't even talking about trading, just the brain waves...
6 categories of brain waves.
Just remember, when dealing with price, we are NOT dealing with tangible material objects... So why would we use Newtonian physics (a tangible based theory in our application)?
...the FX market MUST obey the laws of physics. If, indeed, this were not true, and we were to discover that the FX market is the only entity in the Universe that does NOT obey the laws of physics, this would be a discovery of such staggering proportions that the instant Nobel Prize and other speaking engagements would give one sufficient cash not to have to worry about FOREX trading.
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- Aug 6, 2011 10:14pm Aug 6, 2011 10:14pm
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Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
not sure what you are getting at since cb was outed as pulling some high level bullshit under the username tg and basically generated a masterpiece of trollery/scamming.
but, for what it's worth... anyone here could be pulling high level bullshit under other usernames or even just the one username. you just have to keep your bs detector charged and working.
How do you know that CB was a scammer?
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- Aug 6, 2011 10:51pm Aug 6, 2011 10:51pm
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Really?
Hi Folks, I'm sorry to report that the user "Tudor Girl" has been sent to the Multiple Usernames user group after an investigation that revealed the username is controlled by Codebreaker. We've long known that both names were posting form the same IP address, but today we were able to confirm, with the help of some smart members, it's the same person and not two people at the same location.
We aren't going to ban Codebreaker because he hasn't violated any rules that we know...
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
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- Aug 6, 2011 11:55pm Aug 6, 2011 11:55pm
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Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
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- Edited 11:56pm Aug 7, 2011 11:17pm | Edited 11:56pm
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Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
So what tool do you suggest to analyse this complex system?
I am studying Gann timing methods and Market Cycle analysis. Maybe they can do this.
I am studying Gann timing methods and Market Cycle analysis. Maybe they can do this.
...trendlines / pitchforks / etc etc are all a form of reductionism that does not in any way help describe or measure a system that is infinitely more complex than the part being described / measured.
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- Aug 8, 2011 6:57am Aug 8, 2011 6:57am
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So what tool do you suggest to analyse this complex system?
I am studying Gann timing methods and Market Cycle analysis. Maybe they can do this.
". it's quite likely that i'm completely wrong anyway, so either way it's all the same.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
You're right.
Sorry. I've eliminated time factor from my trading. Because if you add time it becomes Newtonian and rigid. Yes, Pitchforks takes TIME into account
All I can think of is by using charts that dont take into account the time factor, such as renko, range or other type of charts.
Because even by using MA envelopes, TRS, RSI, or any other assistance is usually being plotted by taking into account time.
Please enlighten me, because my forehead is bruised
Throw me one of these:
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- Edited 10:51am Aug 8, 2011 10:31am | Edited 10:51am
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I agree that time is essentially man made. But HOW do you eliminate TIME from your trading?
All I can think of is by using charts that dont take into account the time factor, such as renko, range or other type of charts.
Because even by using MA envelopes, TRS, RSI, or any other assistance is usually being plotted by taking into account time.
Please enlighten me, because my forehead is bruised
Throw me one of these:
all candle/bar charts are based on a time-step, therefore, indicators that are all based on these charts that are all based on a time-step are tied-into this time-step (or potentially handicapped) in one way or another.
taking purely tick data you can easily eliminate time completely. you simply ignore the time the tick arrived and just plot each tick one after another in series, just as mt4 does in the order window.
an MA is based on some time period. but what's the point of an MA? to average a set of data. the data just happens to be locked into a time-step grouping which removes data and creates a summary of events that happened during a step through time. so what if instead you simply averaged the ticks that came in one by one? they aren't based on a time-step. they simply happen when they happen, and each new tick is a new data point, unlike candles/bars which will keep churning out new data points as each time period progresses even without any new data actually occurring (i.e. a LACK of data).
or you could create a compromise, as some do, and group ticks into some arbitrary number to average them and produce somewhat typical looking candles. time is still gone, but you get your candles back and have summarized data via n number of data points instead of t number of seconds/minutes/hours/days/whatever.
a point and figure chart is entirely designed to remove time. it's usually handicapped by the fact that they are usually generated from candle/bar data which is inherently skewed by the time-factor they are constrained to and the loss of fidelity due to the nature of candles/bars. that's not to say that they can't instead be created from ticks, because they can and this is programmatically easier to do and has a far simpler ruleset. but as mt4 doesn't store historical tick data it's simpler to just create p n f charts based on candles, and in this way previous data is generated in the same way as live incoming data.
possibly none of this is even useful or on the track of what cp meant... but still, there you have it.
now, removing time from trading is an interesting idea. i wonder how literal cp means it though. if time is gone, then that removes things like ATR...
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
Any help would be appreciated
nakedchart marketgeometry & http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=76597
You have to understand PF or ML is not a standalone trading tool you have to take overall market context & price action with this.
for example, I posted this trade on jan 5,2011 US 10 yr note weekly chart.
Price was respecting this pitch fork & taking support @ ML
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...56#post4288056
Updated chart
Regards,
TAQ
