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  • #21,381
  • Jul 27, 2011 3:49pm Jul 27, 2011 3:49pm
Quoting apple_sauce
I think you misunderstood where I entered the trades. Those screenshots were taken after the trades were closed.

I did not trade the low of the low vol shakout, I put my entry on the low of the etf after the UT and it happened to reverse right there and close as a shakeout. as for the usd/chf trade there was a clear ETF followed by a hidden UT and 2 ND UT I entered below the ETF and again the bar I entered on closed as a shakeout, but this time on high vol. I probably should have gotten out then. My other mistake was putting the stop below support...
Please accept my appologies for my missunderstanding. I think you should re-evaluate your entry criteria. Niether entry is valid for long term success. Try building a confirmation criteria into your entry triggers, this may hep.

Glad you like the vids. I really should do more.
  • #21,382
  • Jul 27, 2011 8:38pm Jul 27, 2011 8:38pm
Quoting Intel
I really should do more.
Second
  • #21,383
  • Jul 28, 2011 12:20am Jul 28, 2011 12:20am
EUR/USD M15 showing a nice UpThrust, especially since it is reaching to a previous Last Swing High.

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  • #21,384
  • Jul 28, 2011 1:48am Jul 28, 2011 1:48am
Quoting apple_sauce
I think you misunderstood where I entered the trades. Those screenshots were taken after the trades were closed.

I did not trade the low of the low vol shakout, I put my entry on the low of the etf after the UT and it happened to reverse right there and close as a shakeout. as for the usd/chf trade there was a clear ETF followed by a hidden UT and 2 ND UT I entered below the ETF and again the bar I entered on closed as a shakeout, but this time on high vol. I probably should have gotten out then. My other mistake was putting the stop below support...
Hi Sir, looking at your entry, it's pretty low risk! Do you entry stop loss manually or set it auto?
  • #21,385
  • Jul 28, 2011 1:52am Jul 28, 2011 1:52am
Quoting foxybunny
EUR/USD M15 showing a nice UpThrust, especially since it is reaching to a previous Last Swing High.

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Nice analysis and trade setups. This chart has many setups that allows a beautiful trade!
  • #21,386
  • Jul 28, 2011 3:39am Jul 28, 2011 3:39am
JPMorgan.

Going back to the video Gavin posted on youtube, he shorted JP on that HV upthrust, but, is there not acc. in the background?

I think you would have been stopped out on GH short.

any views?
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  • #21,387
  • Edited 6:30am Jul 28, 2011 6:14am | Edited 6:30am
From studying the way Gavin trades I guarantee you he has been stopped out by now. He is a very conservative trader and probably got stopped out at 42 or at break even. He uses the "H" stops in tradeguider. Also that second bar you highlighted is almost bag holding which is a strong SOS. Personally I would not be trading a chart that looks like that, there are too many conflicting signals. It is unlike Gavin to trade something like this, but I think that this was more of a forced trade so that he could market tradeguider if it went in his direction.

Quoting gez40
JPMorgan.

Going back to the video Gavin posted on youtube, he shorted JP on that HV upthrust, but, is there not acc. in the background?

I think you would have been stopped out on GH short.

any views?
  • #21,388
  • Jul 28, 2011 6:58am Jul 28, 2011 6:58am
Quoting boyce
hi ivonivon
what's your method?i think GBP can move higher it's simple.due to day range
It is cross movements between currencies.
Since professional money are stealthy, they might accumulate strong currency against many other currencies and doing this by flying under radar.

Cut story short, it is reasonable for me to assume that EUR will lead the pack north after seeing SOS or very strong support level on 8H EUR/GBP chart.
  • #21,389
  • Jul 28, 2011 7:09am Jul 28, 2011 7:09am
When H4 has formed pattern like this, you won't ignore it.
Confirmed by no demand on 8H chart, yhose who also trade harmonic would hit 1st target for a nice R:R trade.
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  • #21,390
  • Jul 28, 2011 8:57am Jul 28, 2011 8:57am
Quoting apple_sauce
From studying the way Gavin trades I guarantee you he has been stopped out by now. He is a very conservative trader and probably got stopped out at 42 or at break even. He uses the "H" stops in tradeguider. Also that second bar you highlighted is almost bag holding which is a strong SOS. Personally I would not be trading a chart that looks like that, there are too many conflicting signals. It is unlike Gavin to trade something like this, but I think that this was more of a forced trade so that he could market tradeguider if it went in his direction....
If he wanted to market tradeguider with a trade call he would have posted his GBP long analysis. The jpm call was a good setup as there is other criteria that he looks at when taking a stock trade. He considers the sector in general and from looking at that the sector is definitively weak.
  • #21,391
  • Jul 28, 2011 1:23pm Jul 28, 2011 1:23pm
Quoting Sonofsin5
If he wanted to market tradeguider with a trade call he would have posted his GBP long analysis. The jpm call was a good setup as there is other criteria that he looks at when taking a stock trade. He considers the sector in general and from looking at that the sector is definitively weak.
If Gavin wanted to market TradeGuider with a trade call, he would mention his Oil and BP calls in every webinar he does.............
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #21,392
  • Jul 28, 2011 1:39pm Jul 28, 2011 1:39pm
Quoting HiddenGap
If Gavin wanted to market TradeGuider with a trade call, he would mention his Oil and BP calls in every webinar he does.............
well...he does. lol. as well as the silver call. in fact, i've been with TG for over 2 months and i basically hear the same stuff all the time. unfortunatly they stopped doing the forex wednesday stuff cause someone is doign a 'cable room'. which is kinda bunk cause i preferred looking at more than one pair.
  • #21,393
  • Jul 29, 2011 2:02am Jul 29, 2011 2:02am
If I had a piece of software that was as good as Gavin et al claims, I wouldn't bother marketing it........I would USE it instead.

However, if for whatever reason I did decide to market it, I would show people live feeds of me using it to make money on a regular basis.

If I had a piece of software which wasn't quite as good as I claimed, I might spend a huge amount of time hinting at the trades I WOULD have taken(or did take behind closed doors) and go over and over the calls which turned out ok (whilst ignoring the ones which failed). While all the time saying 'We're not here to tell you when to enter the trade, that's up to you' and 'We have to be careful about telling people when to enter a trade because providing calls is illegal in some countries.'

Come on guys, Gavin runs a company selling TG. If anyone thinks he (or his staff) is trying to do anything but make money out of you, you are sadly deluded. Oh and please dont fall for the age old line...'I have used this product to make my fortune and I just wanted to share the secret with everyone else so they can make thier fortune too!' If the guy was in fact so generous and wanted us to be able to make money out of the markets also, he would simpy give it to us. Don't forget, he doesn't need our money, he has used TG to make his fortune........hasn't he?

The fact is, he is marketing the product which his business sells and makes a lot of money from, and he seems very good at it.
  • #21,394
  • Jul 29, 2011 2:09am Jul 29, 2011 2:09am
Quoting Intel
If I had a piece of software that was as good as Gavin et al claims, I wouldn't bother marketing it........I would USE it instead.

However, if for whatever reason I did decide to market it, I would show people live feeds of me using it to make money on a regular basis.

If I had a piece of software which wasn't quite as good as I claimed, I might spend a huge amount of time hinting at the trades I WOULD have taken(or did take behind closed doors) and go over and over the calls which turned out ok (whilst ignoring the ones which failed)....

But Gavin is our savior, how dare you speak against our king.

  • #21,395
  • Jul 29, 2011 6:04am Jul 29, 2011 6:04am
Quoting Sonofsin5
But Gavin is our savior, how dare you speak against our king.<br />
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Gavin our savior, give me a break Sonofsin. You are a great trader, I'm very respectful to you, you make money from the market and I don't think you get commission from tradeguider... but I'm quite sure HiddenGap does, from his very early post until today, he constantly praise Gavin and TG, despite trying to teach trader how to read market by our very own eyes without the overly-complicated software which provides too many signals off one charts.

Who know, Gavin could be HG lol. Is that a good news?

To me, it's only Tom William with MTM, second is Dr.G who brought vsa to forum. The time Dr.G was here, the thread has been a great source of learning for both new and experienced vsa trader, now it's all about TG, lol. My admiration for you, HG.
  • #21,396
  • Jul 29, 2011 7:21am Jul 29, 2011 7:21am
Nice setup emerging on EU H1. We have etf through support followed by nd back into support. News is coming up in 10 min.
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  • #21,397
  • Jul 29, 2011 7:49am Jul 29, 2011 7:49am
Quoting Intel
If I had a piece of software that was as good as Gavin et al claims, I wouldn't bother marketing it........I would USE it instead.

However, if for whatever reason I did decide to market it, I would show people live feeds of me using it to make money on a regular basis.

If I had a piece of software which wasn't quite as good as I claimed, I might spend a huge amount of time hinting at the trades I WOULD have taken(or did take behind closed doors) and go over and over the calls which turned out ok (whilst ignoring the ones which failed). While...
Apparently my sarcasm does not translate into text form. Of course I know that Gavin talks about the same calls in every webinar-I've been to 98% of them.

Now, as for Intel my buddy. What you say is true. You and SONO are smarter than I am. For me, if it were not for a young man that wrote a piece of software and a book (oh my God a trader wrote a book and some software-he can't be making money trading), I would not be trading. Smart people like you and Sono may have figured it out, but I needed Tom's generosity.

When you mock ALL traders with something to sell, you mock the father of the methodology you use yourself. Again, the smart ones like yourself may have gotten it without Tom, but there are many that would still be wondering in the wilderness without him.
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #21,398
  • Jul 29, 2011 9:20am Jul 29, 2011 9:20am
Quoting petedeluiz
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Gavin our savior, give me a break Sonofsin.
I was being sarcastic.
  • #21,399
  • Jul 30, 2011 10:08am Jul 30, 2011 10:08am
Quoting HiddenGap
Apparently my sarcasm does not translate into text form. Of course I know that Gavin talks about the same calls in every webinar-I've been to 98% of them.

Now, as for Intel my buddy. What you say is true. You and SONO are smarter than I am. For me, if it were not for a young man that wrote a piece of software and a book (oh my God a trader wrote a book and some software-he can't be making money trading), I would not be trading. Smart people like you and Sono may have figured it out, but I needed Tom's generosity.

When you mock ALL traders with...
You and I both know that I am not smarter than you (I wish) I have said many times that I have learnt VSA with the aide of FF, Tom Williams and in particular you and Mal.

BTW I have gotten to know you well enough to know that were being sarcastic.

Secondly, in no way have I ever belittled or rejected VSA. Only the suggestion that my fortune can be gained via the use of TG, and that Gavin et al have anything other than making money out of us, as their main aganda. I simply don't believe that they run their business for our benefit and not their own.
  • #21,400
  • Jul 31, 2011 9:20am Jul 31, 2011 9:20am
Hi guys, Long time no see and no post. Let's make trading profitable and interesting. No need sarcastic. I am in a bull mood basically.
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