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  • #161
  • Jun 20, 2011 3:47pm Jun 20, 2011 3:47pm
Quoting NeoRio
There is no BOB forum, please check your link. I should correct you in the fact that I never said I would open a Skype room to discuss Steve's MM method, in fact I much prefer Martin Cole's MM method to Steve's, it's a sounder approach to trading the MM method. I should thank you, actually for being the one responsible for introducing me to Martin Cole, I had never heard of him till the day you posted a link to his youtube channel in Calderone's thread. You removed your post shortly after you posted it, but it was there long enough for me to...
Neo is more than generous with free market analysis and assisting others. He posts many charts based on price action and market structure. He started a room to discuss MM methods, not Mauro, Cole or BOB. What have you contributed or done to help others. Are you affiliated with Mauro? They seem to have many spies out there trying to protect their "secret" information- are u one of them??? If so, just move on to your own SM private chat room
  • #162
  • Edited 4:13pm Jun 20, 2011 3:59pm | Edited 4:13pm
Quoting ataata
OK at first i would like to say one more time that i am not one of Mauros student and that everything i have been learning I have been learning from HW of his students what means that it is possible that I dont understant everything perfectly.

About levels, there could be less (2) or more (4) levels of consolidation in a day. first and second level (as on picture) average about 75 pips from peak to bottom or from bottom to peak.

When price go on the other side of 50 EMA there could be reseting ( you begin to count the levels from 1 in the same...
Thanks a lot ataata, now that you made cleared to me I noticed as well and made perfect sense...more and more with MM theory-conspiracy,

do not tell anyone, many the will not believe it anyway..

Did you backtesting this, going back on charts?
Just looking at 15mins charts make sense.. 2 consolidation with M or W and hop crossing the 50EMA and trending for the 6/8 hours..to fill the range of the day..

keep them coming, please

Sammy
  • #163
  • Jun 20, 2011 6:27pm Jun 20, 2011 6:27pm
Quoting Sammy76
Thanks a lot ataata, now that you made cleared to me I noticed as well and made perfect sense...more and more with MM theory-conspiracy,
do not tell anyone, many the will not believe it anyway..
Did you backtesting this, going back on charts?
Just looking at 15mins charts make sense.. 2 consolidation with M or W and hop crossing the 50EMA and trending for the 6/8 hours..to fill the range of the day..
keep them coming, please
Sammy
It would be useful to analyze and determine the "Levels" for each major currency pair at start of London session. For example: EU is Level2 rise, GU is Level3 rise, AU is Level3 fall, etc ...... to set a directional bias for the rest of day. What pairs are both ataata and Sammy76 looking at going forward?
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  • #164
  • Jun 20, 2011 8:19pm Jun 20, 2011 8:19pm
Whats your problem? I have been in both of his rooms and have never ever heard or seen anything remotely close to what you what you are accusing him of. We don't trade the same, but I have a lot of respect for what he does, which is try to open peoples minds. He doesn't teach, but encourages those in the room to participate and show what they see in charts, and I would imagine to learn something himself. Whats wrong with inviting people to join a skype room. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I will stick up for him whether we trade the same or not. He, by all accounts I have had in dealing with him, is a good man. Honestly, I must question your motives. Anyway, watch your mouth....


Quoting mmaker
Sorry if I interpreted wrongly, but I saw you posting on at least 3 threads discussing M and W methods, calling viewers to join your skype group. You specifically said you will be discussing market maker method but in actual fact funneling them to your B.O.B. method and forum, http://breakoutbuster.com/forexforum...hp?f=3&t=2&p=8 . If you are not targeting anybody then I'll just leave these pictures for others to decide your agenda.

Your actions can qualify you for Commercial Member.
  • #165
  • Jun 20, 2011 8:33pm Jun 20, 2011 8:33pm
Quoting knucklehead
Whats wrong with inviting people to join a skype room. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I will stick up for him whether we trade the same or not. He, by all accounts I have had in dealing with him, is a good man. Honestly, I must question your motives. Anyway, watch your mouth....
Since you are sticking up for him, I know whatever I say will incur your wrath. There is nothing wrong with inviting to join his Skype, but he's been doing it specifically on forums targeting any threads that discussed Steve (and not other threads). I know he declared that he is not the same "NeoRio" in other forums but the motives as you say is questionable. I will requote his message below so to be clear I may be mistaken on his other identities. But the signature is the same, invite anyone interested in Steve's videos to his Skype. Why is he doing that? If he thinks this is a dead thread, he could have moved on to other pursuits like B.O.B website.
Quoting NeoRio
I don't know where else to post this, but I keep getting PMs from people asking me for links to videos because they saw a NeoRio at the Indo forum post that they had links. I am not the NeoRio from the Indo forum. I am not a member of the Indo forum and I have no idea who the other NeoRio is. If anybody here is a member of the Indo forum, I'd appreciate it if you would please post there that the NeoRio from FF is not the same person as the NeoRio from the Indo forum.

Thanks,
NeoRio
No longer trading forex. Looking for full time job.
  • #166
  • Jun 20, 2011 8:53pm Jun 20, 2011 8:53pm
Quoting mmaker
Since you are sticking up for him, I know whatever I say will incur your wrath. There is nothing wrong with inviting to join his Skype, but he's been doing it specifically on forums targeting any threads that discussed Steve (and not other threads). I know he declared that he is not the same "NeoRio" in other forums but the motives as you say is questionable. I will requote his message below so to be clear I may be mistaken on his other identities. [b]But the signature is the same, invite anyone interested in Steve's videos to his Skype....
I am not in his skype you room talk of since I don't trade it. I am interested in all types of methods, but am very successful in my own, that is why I joined it for a short time. So this leads me to the question about you statement in bold, who is Steve? It's been a while since I have been there, but I don't recall a Steve being brought up. So I think that kinda blows your theory up, no offense.

I am still a member of his Advanced Trend Trading room, and enjoy the conversation as well as inputting and hopefully helping others, although I really doubt anyone really pays much attention to me.
  • #167
  • Edited 2:50pm Jun 21, 2011 1:53am | Edited 2:50pm
Quoting mmaker
It would be useful to analyze and determine the "Levels" for each major currency pair at start of London session. For example: EU is Level2 rise, GU is Level3 rise, AU is Level3 fall, etc ...... to set a directional bias for the rest of day. What pairs are both ataata and Sammy76 looking at going forward?
I do not know about ataata, but I am looking at the 6 majors mostly: E/U, G/U, A/U, U/CHF, U/J, U/CAD

They move the whole board, manipulating these... in case they do not, the move is on the crosses... G/J, G/CHF, EUR/GBP my favourite in that case..

Remember: Fractional disparity!!
  • #168
  • Jun 23, 2011 12:26am Jun 23, 2011 12:26am
Quoting Sammy76
I do not know about ataata, but I am looking at the 6 majors mostly: E/U, G/U, A/U, U/CHF, U/J, U/CAD
They move the whole board, manipulating these... in case they do not, the move is on the crosses... G/J, G/CHF, EUR/GBP my favourite in that case..
Remember: Fractional disparity!!
EU - Level3 peak high formed, now in Level1 drop for next few days. Look to short on Straightaway, don't expect W pattern long until couple days.

What do you think?
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  • #169
  • Jun 23, 2011 2:08am Jun 23, 2011 2:08am
Quoting mmaker
EU - Level3 peak high formed, now in Level1 drop for next few days. Look to short on Straightaway, don't expect W pattern long until couple days.

What do you think?
Good call, already in profit

Do you think G/U is the same boat?
  • #170
  • Jun 23, 2011 2:49am Jun 23, 2011 2:49am
Quoting Sammy76
Good call, already in profit
Do you think G/U is the same boat?
Cool, ride a portion of your EU down for couple days as swing trade until a obvious W pattern forms on hourly to tell you the count to downside is completed.

For GU, I think it is further down at Level2 drop going into Level3 drop, so not looking for Straightaway short (only for Level1). It might rally for a Reset (to short), or chop here hourly to bottom out Level3 W. What do you or ataata see?
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  • #171
  • Jun 23, 2011 3:12am Jun 23, 2011 3:12am
Quoting mmaker
Cool, ride a portion of your EU down for couple days as swing trade until a obvious W pattern forms on hourly to tell you the count to downside is completed.

For GU, I think it is further down at Level2 drop going into Level3 drop, so not looking for Straightaway short (only for Level1). It might rally for a Reset (to short), or chop here hourly to bottom out Level3 W. What do you or ataata see?
I am not very good at counting levels and its terminology yet..
Would you mind clarify the Straightaway trade?

E/U now forming a W or what ? Party of the downside already done?
  • #172
  • Jun 23, 2011 3:26am Jun 23, 2011 3:26am
Quoting Sammy76
I am not very good at counting levels and its terminology yet..
Would you mind clarify the Straightaway trade?

E/U now forming a W or what ? Party of the downside already done?
See my earlier post on EU ..... suggest you keep a portion for swing short and wait for hourly W to form. Why rush to get out of good trades? If you want to get out, you will see W on M1, M5, M15 to justify your action. Why not look at H1 or H4 to see where you are in the levels? What if it turns out to be a 3 day drop? Do you see the large overhead M pattern on H1 and H4? And you want to get out of your short sell on this tiny M5 or M15 pattern that you think is W to stop the H4 run down? Well if you think so then cover the short for tiny gains. Good trade.
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  • #173
  • Jun 23, 2011 8:55am Jun 23, 2011 8:55am
Quoting mmaker
See my earlier post on EU ..... suggest you keep a portion for swing short and wait for hourly W to form. Why rush to get out of good trades? If you want to get out, you will see W on M1, M5, M15 to justify your action. Why not look at H1 or H4 to see where you are in the levels? What if it turns out to be a 3 day drop? Do you see the large overhead M pattern on H1 and H4? And you want to get out of your short sell on this tiny M5 or M15 pattern that you think is W to stop the H4 run down? Well if you think so then cover the short for tiny...
Looks like you were right...
Still in with "some" huge profit

Never thought to somewhat apply M and W to the 1hour and 4hour charts...
until now..

Level counts only now makes sense, specially on the 1hour..
Thanks for lighting up the bulb
  • #174
  • Jun 27, 2011 8:29am Jun 27, 2011 8:29am
just checking in
  • #175
  • Edited 10:05pm Jun 28, 2011 8:42pm | Edited 10:05pm
Looking at the hard right edge of these two 15mins chart, do you think it is a valid M-pattern to short? (Answers coming up) Make it two charts for discussion.
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  • #176
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:36am Jun 30, 2011 9:36am
Quoting bstay2
Looking at the hard right edge of these two 15mins chart, do you think it is a valid M-pattern to short? (Answers coming up) Make it two charts for discussion.
Bstay, I'd need a little more input than just a plain chart (whatever frequency it may be), e.g. determining the position in the weekly cycle of the underlying majors. Which pairs and dates did you take these charts from?
  • #177
  • Jul 1, 2011 4:19am Jul 1, 2011 4:19am
Quoting hart3000
Bstay, I'd need a little more input than just a plain chart (whatever frequency it may be), e.g. determining the position in the weekly cycle of the underlying majors. Which pairs and dates did you take these charts from?
You're right, we should also consider higher timeframes and estimate the midweek reversal. Anyway I took the pictures from 15mins of EUR/JPY and USD/CAD.
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  • #178
  • Jul 3, 2011 8:03am Jul 3, 2011 8:03am
Quoting bstay2
You're right, we should also consider higher timeframes and estimate the midweek reversal. Anyway I took the pictures from 15mins of EUR/JPY and USD/CAD.
EJ short

Look at underlying majors EU & UJ on 15m chart. EU has reached EMA50. Both TDIs should indicate down. EJ does (but already far away from BB boundary), UJ points up.

No clear support from 60m charts as well (EJ, EU, UJ). No trade here.

All this, with comfortable hindsight, of course. (:
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  • #179
  • Jul 3, 2011 8:14am Jul 3, 2011 8:14am
Quoting bstay2
You're right, we should also consider higher timeframes and estimate the midweek reversal. Anyway I took the pictures from 15mins of EUR/JPY and USD/CAD.
UC short

TDI's on 15 charts of correlates (GC, CF, AC, CJ) looks all good except EC. Fair enough. However, 60m charts don't support in my eyes. Therefore, this was also no short for me. I'd suggest taking only the clear ones (support by underlying majors, 15m & 60m).
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  • #180
  • Edited 10:34am Jul 3, 2011 10:20am | Edited 10:34am
For all you who didnt see this video:


http://www.compassfx.com/video/flash...i/mmm_tdi.html

for me this is the main benefit from Mauro - i dont belive in dead indian guy who teach Mauro and 4 market makers who control the world mambo jambo. But this "shark fin" could be very useful and good add to your system.
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