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  • #1
  • First Post: Nov 3, 2005 3:42pm Nov 3, 2005 3:42pm
I've done a quick google and haven't received a good answer for this question.

A java search came up with GCI and GFT. Oanda as an execution platform shouldn't be a problem.

Are there any decent native linux apps out there? Charts mainly but also execution.

Thanks in advance
  • #2
  • Nov 3, 2005 10:01pm Nov 3, 2005 10:01pm
Hi, I'd like to get back to a linux desktop if I can. But so far matrox haven't released drivers for X. They've had about 2 years now so I don't think there's much chance... anyway. I use CMC and Oanda and they both have web based java thingies which is good but my charts never save. Having to reboot XP is avoided at all costs! and sometimes the CMC app. runs out of memory due to a leak which is a pain.

So, my question is does anyone have multiple desktops going with X?

As for getting windows apps. to run under linux you might want to try cross x over or wine. I used wine to run my stock package many moons ago and it was okay but kinda buggy.

Once I get X going on a video card I'll be giving cross x over a go. There is a thread on money tec

GL!
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  • #3
  • Nov 4, 2005 12:00am Nov 4, 2005 12:00am
http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/dr...atest/home.cfm
http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewforu...3d57ce6e50fa43
  • #4
  • Nov 4, 2005 4:09am Nov 4, 2005 4:09am
Yeah I was thinking of "wine" for the trading apps too. I'll check out vmware while i'm at it.
  • #5
  • Nov 4, 2005 5:33am Nov 4, 2005 5:33am
Thanks Beachie. I run the P750 AGP. The drivers they have are for PCI, I tried the "bridged agp" thing but it was a headache to say the least. I've had another look though and someone has an AGP hack running so I might give it another go.

Cheers.
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  • #6
  • Nov 5, 2005 3:11pm Nov 5, 2005 3:11pm
Thanx JJ

Now that I've got Ubuntu up and running I've had a look at a few of these options you mentioned.

I'm disappointed at the lack of native linux support but that shouldn't really be surprising. The java stuff I can do but I don't think I can save work on any of the demos.

Wine I looked at and for simple apps I can get running but others I get unstuck. Probably a case of RTFM I suppose.

In the end I've installed an XP VM using VMWare and running on an Athlon 2800+ its pretty kewl.

I hated Redhat and the other distros but with Ubuntu things seems to be much easier. Even browsing a windows network is painless nowadays (only when I have to).

Wonder how long I will remain on "Winblows"? ... :
Quoting JackJones
Hi, I'd like to get back to a linux desktop if I can. But so far matrox haven't released drivers for X. They've had about 2 years now so I don't think there's much chance... anyway. I use CMC and Oanda and they both have web based java thingies which is good but my charts never save. Having to reboot XP is avoided at all costs! and sometimes the CMC app. runs out of memory due to a leak which is a pain.

So, my question is does anyone have multiple desktops going with X?

As for getting windows apps. to run under linux you might want to try cross x over or wine. I used wine to run my stock package many moons ago and it was okay but kinda buggy.

Once I get X going on a video card I'll be giving cross x over a go. There is a thread on money tec

GL!
  • #7
  • Nov 5, 2005 3:37pm Nov 5, 2005 3:37pm
Quoting Isotonic
Thanx JJ

Now that I've got Ubuntu up and running I've had a look at a few of these options you mentioned.

I'm disappointed at the lack of native linux support but that shouldn't really be surprising. The java stuff I can do but I don't think I can save work on any of the demos.

Wine I looked at and for simple apps I can get running but others I get unstuck. Probably a case of RTFM I suppose.

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Amibroker runs on WINE
  • #8
  • Nov 5, 2005 3:45pm Nov 5, 2005 3:45pm
Thanx Beachie...will check it out.

BTW Amibroker looks like a pretty kewl app...nice that you can plug in so many free data sources and it looks pretty nifty to boot!

Quoting Beachie41
Amibroker runs on WINE
  • #9
  • Nov 5, 2005 5:06pm Nov 5, 2005 5:06pm
Isotonic,

Just install the VMware and you can run windows, any windows based trading software... Do not waste your time with wine...

Oanada works very well with Linux...

Cheers,
  • #10
  • Nov 5, 2005 8:34pm Nov 5, 2005 8:34pm
Quoting Isotonic
Thanx Beachie...will check it out.

BTW Amibroker looks like a pretty kewl app...nice that you can plug in so many free data sources and it looks pretty nifty to boot!
forgot the link....
http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty/Amibroker_on_Linux/

VMware is a sweet app, but IMO it defeats tthe purpose to run a virtual XP box on Linux so you can use mainstream apps. If anything it would be more convenient to run Linux as a virtual OS on VMware under XP.
  • #11
  • Nov 6, 2005 11:23am Nov 6, 2005 11:23am
I'm thinking for now that any hard to shift windows apps I'll load on the VM. After building it and reinstalling some apps I realised how little I'm actually dependant on Windows - just a few trading and accounting apps as it turns out.

Over time I'll look to either "wine" them or "dine" them [on linux].

Thanx for your help guys. Much appreciated.
  • #12
  • Mar 19, 2006 5:21am Mar 19, 2006 5:21am
looks like those nice chaps at wine have ironed out the bugs with the menus & toolbars. so now i can trade solely on linux now (well at least for now...)
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  • #13
  • Mar 19, 2006 5:38am Mar 19, 2006 5:38am
With Ubuntu you get 4 desktops or workspaces by default which can be increased easily if required.

No need to mess with X-server settings at all.

Quoting JackJones
Hi, I'd like to get back to a linux desktop if I can. But so far matrox haven't released drivers for X. They've had about 2 years now so I don't think there's much chance... anyway. I use CMC and Oanda and they both have web based java thingies which is good but my charts never save. Having to reboot XP is avoided at all costs! and sometimes the CMC app. runs out of memory due to a leak which is a pain.

So, my question is does anyone have multiple desktops going with X?

As for getting windows apps. to run under linux you might want to try cross x over or wine. I used wine to run my stock package many moons ago and it was okay but kinda buggy.

Once I get X going on a video card I'll be giving cross x over a go. There is a thread on money tec

GL!
  • #14
  • Mar 19, 2006 7:34am Mar 19, 2006 7:34am
Why would you use linux, and inside linux you would use a virtual machine and run XP?
Why wouldn't you use XP in the first time?
Try hard, think fast, die young
  • #15
  • Mar 19, 2006 2:03pm Mar 19, 2006 2:03pm
As for the merits of linux against windoze, you could just google for something like "linux vs windows" but for me the main reasons are:

1. cost - no need to pay for upgrades since linux is free
2. desktop - just as good as windows, especially ubuntu
3. for routine office work, no difference nowadays, except cost again
4. better, reliable OS - no more "crazy reboots" after every new installation or update. doesn't crash using the same hardware as the previous XP installation.
5. smaller footprint for apps compared to the bloated offerings under windows
6. oanda & mt4 is all i need for trading.
7. this one is just personal, i hate micro$oft and their anti competitive practices so that they can safeguard their desktop monopoly.

i still need to keep xp for work apps - those that don't or won't run under wine.

hope this helps.

Quoting dof
Why would you use linux, and inside linux you would use a virtual machine and run XP?
Why wouldn't you use XP in the first time?
  • #16
  • Mar 19, 2006 4:14pm Mar 19, 2006 4:14pm
Quoting Isotonic
As for the merits of linux against windoze, you could just google for something like "linux vs windows" but for me the main reasons are:

1. cost - no need to pay for upgrades since linux is free
2. desktop - just as good as windows, especially ubuntu
3. for routine office work, no difference nowadays, except cost again
4. better, reliable OS - no more "crazy reboots" after every new installation or update. doesn't crash using the same hardware as the previous XP installation.
5. smaller footprint for apps compared to the bloated offerings under windows
6. oanda & mt4 is all i need for trading.
7. this one is just personal, i hate micro$oft and their anti competitive practices so that they can safeguard their desktop monopoly.

i still need to keep xp for work apps - those that don't or won't run under wine.

hope this helps.
I understand you perfectlly. I know the difference between linux and windows. But installing linux, using a virtual machine to run XP in linux- I don't get it
I don't want to have 2 operanting systems on my machine. There is no mt4 for linux... so i stick to windows.
Try hard, think fast, die young
  • #17
  • Mar 20, 2006 2:38am Mar 20, 2006 2:38am
The virtual machine is quite easy to power up and switch off - it's more convienient than a dual boot system I'd say.

Like I said I still need windows for work but once I've finished I can close the app quickly and head back to linux.

There is no native support for mt4 as of yet but if all you need is the charts then it works fine using the windows emulator (wine).

Quoting dof
I understand you perfectlly. I know the difference between linux and windows. But installing linux, using a virtual machine to run XP in linux- I don't get it
I don't want to have 2 operanting systems on my machine. There is no mt4 for linux... so i stick to windows.
  • #18
  • Mar 20, 2006 2:56am Mar 20, 2006 2:56am
Although the accessibility has improved enormously with new distro's over the past few years, to get the best out of it you still need some working knowledge of commands, compilers, kernels etc. But then you could make a similar argument for windows as well.

All it does is give you an alternative (free) option to windows, but for most people brought up on dos/windows then thats where personal computing begins and ends I guess.
  • #19
  • Mar 31, 2006 4:32pm Mar 31, 2006 4:32pm
Quoting Isotonic
looks like those nice chaps at wine have ironed out the bugs with the menus & toolbars. so now i can trade solely on linux now (well at least for now...)

How did you install it under WINE? I'm trying to do it (unsuccessfully). Under Crossover Office Pro there is no menus, and under WINE it doesn't work at all. Can you help me with it. I'm using Ubuntu mainly as my desktop, but I'm a bit new to WINE. (I copied mfc42.dll but it didn't help).
  • #20
  • Apr 2, 2006 1:18am Apr 2, 2006 1:18am
First of all make sure you have the latest version of wine...on Ubuntu use the synaptic manager, search for wine and mark for reinstallation. Current version is 0.9.10 I think. Test at a command prompt the command "wine -h" to check.

Next get the mt4 package from your broker, once downloaded right click on it and run it from wine. There shouldn't be any problems. IBFX will create an icon on your deskop but you can also find it in the .wine/drive_c folder as well.

If you get start up problems then copy the following microsoft visual c dlls to the folder: mfc42.dll, msvcp70.dll and msvcr70.dll. Your versions of these might be different. I used samba to copy them across.

That should do the trick - you might have to download the mozilla activex control once running but that should be it!

If you haven't done so already, I would strongly recommend joining the ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
The support there is very good and may have more answers fo you.
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