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  • #1,941
  • Jun 20, 2011 3:44am Jun 20, 2011 3:44am
Quoting xXTrizzleXx
Hmm..short's not looking to good..do I still want to hold it over the weekend?...
xXTrizzleXx
haha this is actually how it sounded in my brain, you have a gift my friend!

i waited all day to short it at 4320, and then closed it out at the end of the day because it looked bullish and closed above 4300. i was just like oh well, guess i was wrong.

damn, i see it now! can't believe I fell for that shit!

thanks man, i get it now. you really have to question everything i guess.
  • #1,942
  • Jun 20, 2011 6:46am Jun 20, 2011 6:46am
sounds good trizzle, but how do you explain the fact that they were booking some and short covering a day before franco/german cozy comments on friday... most were booking right around 4100 the day before... could it be the 100 DMA (which funds most definitely watch) in combination with booking some ahead of the weekend? it all looked quite bad as far as sentiment was concerned with the riots in Greece at the time...

We also know there was an agenda at the 4150-4100 on top of that.
  • #1,943
  • Jun 20, 2011 7:49am Jun 20, 2011 7:49am
Quoting RichFWebb
it just seems impossible to pinpoint sentiment, because the news is always spittin out some bs reason for why this and that happened.. so it is like sentiment seems to always be changing.. i still feel subject to all of the media manipulation..
At least I'm not executing order every news & rumor comes out and also not expecting a decent move happening everyday
  • #1,944
  • Jun 20, 2011 2:10pm Jun 20, 2011 2:10pm
Hi, I'm trading with optionbit for the last year, and I'm very pleased with it, i was able withdraw all of my earning without any problem, so until i think differently i will be using this platform.
  • #1,945
  • Jun 20, 2011 2:44pm Jun 20, 2011 2:44pm
Quoting Monroe
sounds good trizzle, but how do you explain the fact that they were booking some and short covering a day before franco/german cozy comments on friday... most were booking right around 4100 the day before... could it be the 100 DMA (which funds most definitely watch) in combination with booking some ahead of the weekend?
Although we may have arrived at the short covering conclusion by different means, I'd definitely agree with you here that some shorts covered on Thursday not only because of the weekend but to mitigate the event risk posed in case Merkel/Sarkozy had a favourable outcome as it did. However I still got the feeling that the market was still positionned short. As it stands now, it almost feels a bit like the market's going back to flat.

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it all looked quite bad as far as sentiment was concerned with the riots in Greece at the time...
Agree with you here that on Thursday sentiment was bad.

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx
  • #1,946
  • Jun 20, 2011 3:29pm Jun 20, 2011 3:29pm
Quoting xXTrizzleXx
Although we may have arrived at the short covering conclusion by different means, I'd definitely agree with you here that some shorts covered on Thursday not only because of the weekend but to mitigate the event risk posed in case Merkel/Sarkozy had a favourable outcome as it did. However I still got the feeling that the market was still positionned short. As it stands now, it almost feels a bit like the market's going back to flat.

Agree with you here that on Thursday sentiment was bad.

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx
That's why I try to be aware of all potential factors... technicals, fundamentals, event/headline risk, positioning, etc.... it all plays a part to me.

Yes, right now I'm flat... but I feel risk is to the topside from here at this point.

Bottom line, PA will soon tell if it will hold above the 4250 and go for the topside...
  • #1,947
  • Jun 20, 2011 3:45pm Jun 20, 2011 3:45pm
Quoting Monroe
Yes, right now I'm flat... but I feel risk is to the topside from here at this point.

Bottom line, PA will soon tell if it will hold above the 4250 and go for the topside...
Wouldn't it be swell if we could get a little..I don't know..stop-hunt to the topside?

I can't help but view the parliament situation resolved in a somewhat amicable way, so it would really help with my position. I'm long at 1.4295. Going to have to cut it if Asian Session disappoints..come on Mrs.Watanabe!

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx
  • #1,948
  • Jun 20, 2011 3:53pm Jun 20, 2011 3:53pm
Quoting xXTrizzleXx
Wouldn't it be swell if we could get a little..I don't know..stop-hunt to the topside?

I can't help but view the parliament situation resolved in a somewhat amicable way, so it would really help with my position.
I agree with you my friend...

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I'm long at 1.4295. Going to have to cut it if Asian Session disappoints..come on Mrs.Watanabe!

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx

lol mrs. watanabe don't mess around... nice entry...
  • #1,949
  • Jun 20, 2011 4:22pm Jun 20, 2011 4:22pm
I just found this ebook online, from the description it sounds like an updated but basic version of Trading & Exchanges. Hope it helps someone.

http://www.amazon.com/Empirical-Mark...8604807&sr=8-1

Please let me know if this is allowed, if not I'll delete it
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  • #1,950
  • Jun 20, 2011 7:11pm Jun 20, 2011 7:11pm
Quoting xXTrizzleXx
Wouldn't it be swell if we could get a little..I don't know..stop-hunt to the topside?
pay day Trizzle...
  • #1,951
  • Jun 20, 2011 7:30pm Jun 20, 2011 7:30pm
Quoting Monroe
pay day Trizzle...
She's a pretty little girl. Thanks

Mega payday (models and bottles kind of payday) will hopefully come if this parliament can pull through..then again..they're not particularly reliable are they Have to settle for BE for now, but it's the exposure I wanted.

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx

EDIT: Are we allowed charts?
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  • #1,952
  • Jun 20, 2011 9:34pm Jun 20, 2011 9:34pm
Quoting xXTrizzleXx
She's a pretty little girl. Thanks

Mega payday (models and bottles kind of payday) will hopefully come if this parliament can pull through..then again..they're not particularly reliable are they Have to settle for BE for now, but it's the exposure I wanted.

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx

EDIT: Are we allowed charts?

LOL so thats why you want to be a trader?
  • #1,953
  • Jun 20, 2011 9:50pm Jun 20, 2011 9:50pm
Quoting Monroe
LOL so thats why you want to be a trader?
LOL! No I want to provide liquidity and keep market prices informative.
  • #1,954
  • Jun 20, 2011 9:53pm Jun 20, 2011 9:53pm
Quoting xXTrizzleXx
LOL! No I want to provide liquidity and keep market prices informative.
haha that's awesome... I'm somewhat doubtful about that answer
  • #1,955
  • Jun 21, 2011 12:14am Jun 21, 2011 12:14am
Quoting Alex212
Hi, I'm trading with optionbit for the last year, and I'm very pleased with it, i was able withdraw all of my earning without any problem, so until i think differently i will be using this platform.
just not a whole year...LOL
  • #1,956
  • Jun 21, 2011 12:21am Jun 21, 2011 12:21am
Quoting RichFWebb
OF thinking is starting to drive me crazy...

so if they're going to throw out scissors,
then I'll throw rock, but they will know that I'll throw rock,
and they'll throw paper,
so I'll just throw scissors,
but if they know I'll know that.. then I'll just throw rock! yeah, rock.
and europe is about explode, so I'll go short, but no wait, CNN is showing how scared everyone is about Greece, so I shouldnt...

fuck it
wow now I know some really angry trader...
  • #1,957
  • Jun 21, 2011 3:58pm Jun 21, 2011 3:58pm
EZ debt crisis timeline...

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  • #1,958
  • Jun 21, 2011 4:26pm Jun 21, 2011 4:26pm
Quoting Monroe
EZ debt crisis timeline...
Nice graphic! Can anyone else feel the tension tonight?

What's that smell? Coin? There's coin to be had tonight! Good luck to anyone who's going to be so inclined as to join in the volatility!

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx
  • #1,959
  • Jun 21, 2011 5:03pm Jun 21, 2011 5:03pm
Quoting xXTrizzleXx
Nice graphic! Can anyone else feel the tension tonight?
Yea, I thought so myself. I can feel the tension....

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What's that smell? Coin? There's coin to be had tonight! Good luck to anyone who's going to be so inclined as to join in the volatility!

Regards,
xXTrizzleXx

I'm on it....
  • #1,960
  • Jun 21, 2011 6:31pm Jun 21, 2011 6:31pm
http://www.cnbc.com/id/24494689/

Riot time!
Cautiously optimistic. . .
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