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  • #25,541
  • Edited 5:00pm Jun 3, 2011 2:40pm | Edited 5:00pm
Dearest Fredde ...

I heard about your illness and I came back to post here to make one last attempt to hopefully save your life. Yes, I said "HOPE" cuz in this case, "HOPE" may just do its job!

You need to take "PADMA 28"

Here is the link to the information --> http://www.padma.ch/en/products/padma-28.html

My hubby and I watched a movie several years ago called "The Knowledge of Healing." This is where we learned about PADMA. What moved and sold me on it was ... a man was given only a few weeks to live (his arteries were so severely clogged doctors could not operate). He found out about Padma and after taking it, his blockage cleared and he lived. His doctors were flabbergasted.

I took "Padma Basic" after I watched the movie to see if it would help my own circulation. I did not have any threatening health issues, but I have always had very cold hands and feet, thus I felt that health issues may arise down the road if I do not take care of my circulation condition now. Anyway, it helped my circulation, so I know it works!

I had to buy "Padma Basic" (which is the U.S. allowed version), but it lacks a few of the original ingredients, due to they are restricted here in the U.S. Since you are not in the U.S. get the "Padma 28" (the original formula).

Your condition sounds the same as the man I described above. I feel PADMA can help you. In any case, since your doctor(s) have given up on you, you can make one last attempt to save your life, yourself, if you get this product and take it (do the maximum dosage of 6 tablets per day --- follow the instructions).

PLEASE, PLEASE, do not give up on SAVING your life, God can wait for you to meet him when you are much, much older (you are two years younger than me, so DO NOT DARE tell me you are old already and ready to go, otherwise, shall I bring my whip back?!! You DO NOT want whip marks on your butt when you meet your maker, how embarrassing will that be, no?!! )

Anyway, I just dropped in to give you this info, so I may not be posting again. You can get all the info you need on the link I gave above regarding PADMA.

I hope you do as I say, as I warned you before about your health and personal/family predicament (privately through our off-forum chats), but you were too stubborn to listen. Green_David tried to mention this to you, too. He knew one of the reasons why I left here (through his and my off-forum chats). Zoran, as well.

I hope that you live to see 100+ years, and I hope that things can be well with your family again ... it is up to you, YES "YOU," not ONLY God!

And to everyone else, as well ... TAKE CARE OF YOUR HEALTH, and YOUR FAMILY, and MUCH SUCCESS TO YOU!

Be well ALL!
  • #25,542
  • Edited Jun 4, 2011 1:30am Jun 3, 2011 2:52pm | Edited Jun 4, 2011 1:30am
Quoting leighsww
Dearest Fredde ...

I heard about your illness and I came back to post here to make one last attempt to hopefully save your life. Yes, I said "HOPE" cuz in this case, "HOPE" may just do its job!

You need to take "PADMA 28"

Here is the link to the information --> http://www.padma.ch/en/padma-inc/padma-inc.html

My hubby and I watched a movie several years ago called "The Knowledge of Healing." This is where we learned about PADMA. What moved and sold me on it was ... a man was given only...
Hi leighsww,

What a pleasant surprise to see your post.

Be well.
  • #25,543
  • Jun 3, 2011 7:08pm Jun 3, 2011 7:08pm
Quoting leighsww
Dearest Fredde ...

I heard about your illness and I came back to post here to make one last attempt to hopefully save your life. Yes, I said "HOPE" cuz in this case, "HOPE" may just do its job!

You need to take "PADMA 28"

Here is the link to the information --> http://www.padma.ch/en/products/padma-28.html

My hubby and I watched a movie several years ago called "The Knowledge of Healing." This is where we learned about PADMA. What moved...

Nice surprise to see u....
  • #25,544
  • Jun 3, 2011 8:09pm Jun 3, 2011 8:09pm
Sorry i dozed, forgot sign out.

And woke up light bulb hour.
Now i understand.
Spent some time read my own link.
And it dawned on me. Too many falses and mis interpretations.

NO NO NO, please not even think like that.
I am just retired treasury man.
Just like every oneelse is sinner.
I not greater than God like satan thinks.
God is creator, I am just product of his creation.
Like every good christian , when i naughty , i go confession booth to confess my sins.
And the priest voice come back. says" I pray God forgive you your sins, and go in peace."
Reason why i do the confession is to try make sure i not do the same sins again and need go confession again.
Hoping not get reply like" Oh , its you again. So what's it this time."

I not know when Jesus coming back. I just waiting in life also if need in sleep.
Noone knows and neither do I, and not bother ask anyone else.
Jesus says when its time i will know. So I not ask anyone else.
I not even know where markets are going mostly , just following the market flows.

So just that people understand, this no cult. Just a trading thread about skills and mindset.
But my stability of mindset encompasses what i learned from Jesus , so i mentioned some scripture for your understanding.

regards
  • #25,545
  • Edited 8:31pm Jun 3, 2011 8:16pm | Edited 8:31pm
Oops, coming back here to add one more thing ...

[ Thanks guys, but please, no more need for welcomes ]

What is MOST important right now, and what I need from you all, is your cooperation so that we can all work together to save fti's life.

So, here's the deal ... FTI MUST make a PROMISE in this thread to order and take the "PADMA 28."

You all need to STOP posting in this thread until he makes this PROMISE to us (also someone who is close to him, needs to make sure that he follows through with his promise, but since he always says "his word is his bond" I am sure he will not go back on it). Only until he does so (makes this promise), should dialog continue in this thread, OTHERWISE, he will not take this seriously, and he will continue to get wound up with trading talk and it will hasten his critical condition. When he has made his PROMISE, then everyone can continue the discussion.

Yes, I am being demanding, but you ALL should be demanding this too, if fti's life is truly more important to you, than the trading tips from him.

And Fredde ... if you DO NOT "PROMISE" to make this attempt to save your life, than I will no longer think of you as the "man with the steel balls," because although you have the ability to fight the market with a vengeance, you cannot even fight for your own life (especially, when there might be a chance for your survival). That is wimpy in my eyes, so I will take away your "balls of steel" title until you make it a point to choose to live longer. Yeah, this as "tough love" ... you should already be used to it from me!

Seriously, make this PROMISE, it is NOT over for you yet, YOU have a CHANCE at survival, just like that man in the movie my hubby and I saw.

Okay, the ball is in your court, Fredde, you need to make your PROMISE.

* EDIT ... Oh, and if you TRULY care about everyone here, then you would have no problem making your PROMISE, because to NOT do so, is to not care about the people who care about you! Yeah, I'm gonna use guilt here on you, cuz that may be the ONLY way to get through to your stubborn head!
  • #25,546
  • Edited 8:45pm Jun 3, 2011 8:28pm | Edited 8:45pm
Quoting leighsww
Oops, coming back here to add one more thing ...

[ Thanks guys, but please, no more need for welcomes ]

What is MOST important right now, and what I need from you all, is your cooperation so that we can all work together to save fti's life.

So, here's the deal ... FTI MUST make a PROMISE in this thread to order and take the "PADMA 28."

You all need to STOP posting in this thread until he makes this PROMISE to us (also someone who is close to him, needs to make sure that he follows through with his...
Ahh leighsww

Its been long time. Been Good girl? See your thread is now like 20000+ post long.
How's medical man hubby doing as well? Sorry his name slipping my mind.
This problem when blood thickens.

Oh thanks for the reminder.
Come think of it you did mention the secret medicine to me before.
Sorry I forgot. Maybe i should reread the thread sometime as well.

Nope no promises even if you whip me and take away my 'bos' title.
But as friend i will take your advice and get some "PADMA 28"to try unclog my drainage.
Had been taking some Lingzhi as well, to keep up my spirits.
Thank you so much for concern and affection.

So which community had you been whipping since your disappearence.
And the spreadsheets working good?

regards
  • #25,547
  • Jun 3, 2011 8:43pm Jun 3, 2011 8:43pm
Sorry, NO promise, NO discussion. Them is the RULES (yes, we are for once gonna have a RULE here)!

I will not answer any more posts from you until you do this ONE thing that could save your life.

Just saying you will do this as a friend is NOT good enough. How do I know you will continue the entire treatment? You may take a few pills then get lazy and stop. You may not give it enough chance to work.

You did not read to the end the book Zoran so kindly sent you when he was concerned about your smoking, so I do not trust you will do this without your PROMISE (your "word being bond").

So NOPE, you have to promise to take the PADMA 28 until your blockage is cleared or until you die, whichever comes first (I sure hope it's the prior, though).

* EDIT -- @EVERYONE else ... please NO emails to him, as well, until he makes his PROMISE. It's for his own good!
  • #25,548
  • Jun 3, 2011 8:51pm Jun 3, 2011 8:51pm
Quoting leighsww
Sorry, NO promise, NO discussion. Them is the RULES (yes, we are for once gonna have a RULE here)!

I will not answer any more posts from you until you do this ONE thing that could save your life.

Just saying you will do this as a friend is NOT good enough. How do I know you will continue the entire treatment? You may take a few pills then get lazy and stop. You may not give it enough chance to work.

You did not read to the end the book Zoran so kindly sent you when he was concerned about your smoking, so I do not trust...
Yes, FTI - Make That Pomise!!!! We want to see you here well!
EDIT: Sorry, did not see your post leighsww!
Jaro
  • #25,549
  • Jun 3, 2011 8:53pm Jun 3, 2011 8:53pm
Quoting leighsww
Sorry, NO promise, NO discussion. Them is the RULES (yes, we are for once gonna have a RULE here)!

I will not answer any more posts from you until you do this ONE thing that could save your life.

Just saying you will do this as a friend is NOT good enough. How do I know you will continue the entire treatment? You may take a few pills then get lazy and stop. You may not give it enough chance to work.

You did not read to the end the book Zoran so kindly sent you when he was concerned about your smoking, so I do not...
ai ya , my word is my bond la.
Already said i will try, means i will try la.

so far haven't forgotten pray daily.
Now even more times a day. With the church bells and call for prayers reminding me.

So be kind la, not make rigid rules make whatever life left so difficult.
Souts honour, I will try the medicine, when i get hold of it.

by the way how long is the treatment supposed to be.
For warfarin, Sg doc says must take for life.
Then Doctors here told me stop. too much blood thining will make risk higher.
So now on clopidogrel and asparins only.
was on 7 meds ,of which 4 blood thinners.
now down to 4 meds ans 2 thinners.
but the one have effects my clexane, the docs refused give me.


regards
  • #25,550
  • Jun 3, 2011 9:03pm Jun 3, 2011 9:03pm
Quoting leighsww
Sorry, NO promise, NO discussion. Them is the RULES (yes, we are for once gonna have a RULE here)!

I will not answer any more posts from you until you do this ONE thing that could save your life.

Just saying you will do this as a friend is NOT good enough. How do I know you will continue the entire treatment? You may take a few pills then get lazy and stop. You may not give it enough chance to work.

You did not read to the end the book Zoran so kindly sent you when he was concerned about your smoking, so I do not...
i would actually want to know if fti is seeing his cardiologist regularly, and i would like him to ask him for a prognosis.

he mentions <30% cardiac function (i believe he means ejection fraction) being the case, this is very poor, he mentions other secondary symptoms that worry me ( anti coagulants are being used for prophylaxis of P.E or strokes) if his heart also exhibits irregular synus rhythm or A-fib a pretty good chance of M.I (heart attack) is also the danger. but this medications are causing him to have internal bleeding.

what is your PT? PTT? INR?

70% arterial blockage (which one fti?)

im sure EKG, doppler, stress test, and labs have been drawn.
fti mentions b/p in the 70's

do you mean? systolic or dyastolic? are you fainting? do you have cold purplish extremities?

have you asked your cardiologist if you, have medical clearance for surgery?
are you in the waiting list for cardiac transplant?

fti, i cannot assess what the situation is without seeing you, (so I STRONGLY RECOMMEND, YOU TALK TO YOUR, PHYSICIAN AND CARDIOLOGIST about these matters)

<30% EF by itself is livable but usually exacerbates and you will start to develope secondary comorbs like CHF...

INSTEAD OF PAMDA 28, please go see your cardiologist

find out what the prognosis is, and according to this information, your options will be laid out to you fti.
take quality of life into consideration, also how agressive do you want to be with your treatment. please make peace with everyone you love, and enjoy life to the fullest

by the way dont answer all this questions here, you can email me, they are very personal.

leighsww, although its very noble what you are trying to accomplish, fti should know more about his conditions than we, do. if he is here with us, and the markets make him be at peace, and his legacy makes him proud. DO NOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM, he should have OUR FULL SUPPORT.
AVT INVENIAM VIAM AVT FACIAM
  • #25,551
  • Jun 3, 2011 9:07pm Jun 3, 2011 9:07pm
Quoting jazzedjeff
Hi fti,

I came across this thread only a couple of hours ago and have been enjoying reading it, then happened to learn of your current health problem.

I urge you to choose life as the following passage in God's Word also urges you to...

Deuteronomy 30:19
Amplified Bible (AMP)
19 I call heaven and earth to witness this day against you that I have set before you life and death, the blessings and the curses; therefore choose life...

Proverbs 3
Amplified Bible (AMP)
1 MY SON, forget not my law or teaching, but let your heart keep my...
jazz, welcome.
I hope you read about the rules of posting.
My just get both of us suspended.

Yes , friend, in fact me still breathing is a miracle althoght God only gave me back 30% heart.
In fact they already preparing the death cert. on 15 jan. when miracle happened.

Thanks for advice.
Will KIV and review from time to time. Did Christ say these words? probably God. ok.

yes, jazz, surely choose life, I'm not ready for ward 13( insanity ward) yet.

regards
  • #25,552
  • Edited 10:05pm Jun 3, 2011 9:22pm | Edited 10:05pm
Quoting the redlion
i would actually want to know if fti is seeing his cardiologist regularly, and i would like him to ask him for a prognosis.

he mentions <30% cardiac function (i believe he means ejection fraction) being the case, this is very poor, he mentions other secondary symptoms that worry me ( anti coagulants are being used for prophylaxis of P.E or strokes) if his heart also exhibits irregular synus rhythm or A-fib a pretty good chance of M.I (heart attack) is also the danger. but this medications are causing him to have internal bleeding.

what is...
Hi RL,
nothing too personal.
yes, have irregular rythmic and connot pass any eco and yes, cannot get near any ecgs, will report i having constant heart attack. So cannot get near any A & E people, will stap me down and carted in immediately. INR is 1.01. Also INR not responding to high warfarin dosage. Docs investigating type of stent used. Doctors told i haveing constant strokes as well, but he explained that is behaving like shooting stars and not doing major damage due to being lots very tiny pieces. Now is trying control the anti cogs because of internal bleeds. Waiting for eye redness to subside before futher analysis. The most dangerous, which is the LV thrombos is in check and stabalising.

Yes faints when outside home, therefore house bound. Was advised not to exert or exercise or travel.

Specialist wants go in, I refused.
Someone else's heart is not option for me.

In fact i feeling this already God's miracles, but fear say so , in case people misconstrues the statement.
But i had been adviced to prepare for any eventualities. As situation is baffeling the docs.

thank you rl.

regards
  • #25,553
  • Edited 9:37pm Jun 3, 2011 9:22pm | Edited 9:37pm
Redlion ...

I understand that because you are in the medical profession, that you believe the things you do, and I do not want to get into any long discussion about that.

If you are in the U.S. and subscribe to Netflix, I suggest you watch the movie "The Knowledge of Healing"

After you watch it, then you may have a different viewpoint (I hope it opens your eyes).

I suggest that others do the same (rent the DVD if you have access to it) and you will understand why I am making fti promise to do this (you may also want to watch it, in case it may save your own, or your friend/family member's life, in the future, as well).

Watch the movie, please.

Okay, I am out of here and I will leave this in the hands of all others. I came back here only for one reason ... to help save a friend's life, and it is now up to him.
  • #25,554
  • Jun 3, 2011 9:41pm Jun 3, 2011 9:41pm
Quoting leighsww
Redlion ...

I understand that because you are in the medical profession, that you believe the things you do, and I do not want to get into any long discussion about that.

If you are in the U.S. and subscribe to Netflix, I suggest you watch the movie "The Knowledge of Healing"

After you watch it, then you may have a different viewpoint (I hope it opens your eyes).

I suggest that others do the same (rent the...
hey leigh, haven't answered my question.
How longs the treatment, please?
  • #25,555
  • Jun 3, 2011 9:59pm Jun 3, 2011 9:59pm
Hi fti, God continues to bless us with your participation here. I think He has one more thing for you to do and I suggest that you wait to do it for about 30 years -- LOL! We are all pulling for you and want the best for you. Hope you have a restful weekend.
  • #25,556
  • Jun 3, 2011 10:02pm Jun 3, 2011 10:02pm
OK , topic, is OB.
I will do whatever it takes keep breathing.
I even have my own oxygen concentrator beside me.

No worrys, I trust God. And whatever he wills goes.
I do have professional caregivers at standby.
And l will swallow whatever it takes keep alive.
So please no worry about me .

This thread is meant for you trading skills development and i suggest we stay on track. However my presentation had already been mostly completed , so my participation will lessen. But i will most certainly come snooping from time to time.

Good Fortune all.

regards
  • #25,557
  • Jun 3, 2011 10:10pm Jun 3, 2011 10:10pm
Quoting GEfx
Hi fti, God continues to bless us with your participation here. I think He has one more thing for you to do and I suggest that you wait to do it for about 30 years -- LOL! We are all pulling for you and want the best for you. Hope you have a restful weekend.
GE,;hug: yes, was about to say , sort of feeling tired.
I think i'll take a nap, after a nice warm bath.

regards
  • #25,558
  • Jun 3, 2011 10:13pm Jun 3, 2011 10:13pm
hi fti, because i genuinely care about you i will tell you this.

do not feel you are obligated to us, if your time comes and you are READY, and you are at peace with yourself, your god and your family. please go... dont feel like you need to keep alive to satisfy us. or anyone else, from my experience the best moments of relief for terminal patients is when the family finally lets them go.


im glad you have care givers to help you be well my friend, dont stress too much. you can be off topic all you need to be, i think your presentation as you said is complete, so now its all friendly talk
AVT INVENIAM VIAM AVT FACIAM
  • #25,559
  • Jun 3, 2011 10:18pm Jun 3, 2011 10:18pm
Hello redlion,

I want to ask you a question-

Under fti's situation, is it better to rest in bed as much as posible, or is it better to walk around a bit when energy allow?

Due to long time sitting in front of PC, Last year I felt heart pain sometimes. I was scared and went out jogging in the mornings. After 2 weeks, the heart irregular beating and pain gone.

So, I believe some activity can help. But I'm 30+ and still in good health. fti's situation is different. Which way is a bit better for him?

Could you offer some advice on this?
  • #25,560
  • Jun 3, 2011 10:20pm Jun 3, 2011 10:20pm
Quoting the redlion
hi fti, because i genuinely care about you i will tell you this.

do not feel you are obligated to us, if your time comes and you are READY, and you are at peace with yourself, your god and your family. please go... dont feel like you need to keep alive to satisfy us. or anyone else, from my experience the best moments of relief for terminal patients is when the family finally lets them go.


im glad you have care givers to help you be well my friend, dont stress too much. you can be off topic all you need to be, i think your presentation...
yes, rl
I understand completely.
thank you my friend.
However since i gave Leigh, scouts honour. I will try out her PAMDA 28 as well.
In fact i am also already on Lingzhi.
And i am trained in Chi Qong, and can harness much Chi energies.

thank you all my friends, for your caring and your affections.
I am very touched.

regards
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