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  • #19,581
  • May 12, 2011 5:07am May 12, 2011 5:07am
lets .. please post these bullshit posts in euro thread .... thanks

There is no current reason from a vsa standpoint of longs.

Quoting letsarb
Accumulation it will go up !!!
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  • #19,582
  • May 12, 2011 5:09am May 12, 2011 5:09am
Quoting malcolmb14
i always look and consider as many time frames as possible ... here is the 2 hour . I think this will clearly show you why I was still bearish . supply hit the market heavy and this bar did not close above 1.3380
Thanks Mal, allways so clear after you show it

and for the rest - low vol on move up to 1.4175 EU 15M+ 30M + 1H I would short it by now if we didnt have news in 20 minuts...
  • #19,583
  • May 12, 2011 5:16am May 12, 2011 5:16am
wtf this is not a thread for misc posts like long .. xxxxxx


this is a thread where we show vsa set ups and discuss those set ups. Please keep postings about vsa.

EU is just in a bear flag on a 5 min even . My bet is we look for sow on any up moves in US session

Days range is done at 4120 but lets see if any up moves in us session are capped. We may see 4050 today

Trend is DOWN for now on higher time frames 2 hrs and up .... why even try looking for longs even for counter trend trades ?

Pros billions against your 2 mini .. who is going to win ?

Trading with the trend is not even vsa. If you do not understand trend is your friend stop trading a live account till you do !!! that is just trading basics 101
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  • #19,584
  • May 12, 2011 5:19am May 12, 2011 5:19am
pip .. do not surprised if news sinks euro .. remember pros already know the news and markets reaction to it !!! vsa will show this way before the news.



Quoting pipon
Thanks Mal, allways so clear after you show it

and for the rest - low vol on move up to 1.4175 EU 15M+ 30M + 1H I would short it by now if we didnt have news in 20 minuts...
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  • #19,585
  • May 12, 2011 5:32am May 12, 2011 5:32am
managed to scalp 10 pips on a short at 4160 but jumped out when i saw 3 higher vol bars on the 5min just before news. waiting now, a move to say 4200 then some sign of weakness would be sweet for a drop back down
  • #19,586
  • May 12, 2011 5:35am May 12, 2011 5:35am
Quoting malcolmb14
wtf this is not a thread for misc posts like long .. xxxxxx


this is a thread where we show vsa set ups and discuss those set ups. Please keep postings about vsa.

EU is just in a bear flag on a 5 min even . My bet is we look for sow on any up moves in US session

Days range is done at 4120 but lets see if any up moves in us session are capped. We may see 4050 today

Trend is DOWN for now on higher time frames 2 hrs and up .... why even try looking for longs even for counter trend trades ?

Pros billions against your 2 mini .. who is going to...
Hi Malcolm,

I've some problems following the trend. It is not at all that easy for me :-( Often if I look at 4H or 1H chart and I see the trend is up, when I enter long on the 15M timeframe, then often I'm right at the point where the trend is actually reversing.

What are you looking at exactly to tell that the trend is going up or going down?
  • #19,587
  • May 12, 2011 5:39am May 12, 2011 5:39am
2 hr and 4 hr mostly ....

2 hr is still trending down.

Get a super trend indie for mt4 or a hulls moving average .... that will show you trend

Quoting dvarrin
Hi Malcolm,

I've some problems following the trend. It is not at all that easy for me :-( Often if I look at 4H or 1H chart and I see the trend is up, when I enter long on the 15M timeframe, then often I'm right at the point where the trend is actually reversing.

What are you looking at exactly to tell that the trend is going up or going down?
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  • #19,588
  • May 12, 2011 5:45am May 12, 2011 5:45am
Quoting malcolmb14
2 hr and 4 hr mostly ....

2 hr is still trending down.

Get a super trend indie for mt4 or a hulls moving average .... that will show you trend
Ty Malcolm! ;-)
  • #19,589
  • May 12, 2011 5:47am May 12, 2011 5:47am
Hello Malcolmb, pres and everybody else!

Yesterday I watched webinar with Dr. Gary Dayton. Now I have a question.

First chart.
Gary said that this bar A and a previous one looks bullish, as I can see it is ND, so SM not ready to take price up. So for my opinion it is going up on lower volume and I don't see bulls interest.

One thing that alerts me. Volume on bar "A" is lower then 2 previous bars but not lower than average vol.

Second chart.

The same story. For him it is also not weak bar. But now, volume lower then previous bars and lower than average.


So what's your opinion?

Thank you!!!
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  • #19,590
  • May 12, 2011 5:51am May 12, 2011 5:51am
Quoting V_2008
Hello Malcolmb, pres and everybody else!

Yesterday I watched webinar with Dr. Gary Dayton. Now I have a question.

First chart.
Gary said that this bar A and a previous one looks bullish, as I can see it is ND, so SM...
I agree for bar A, because the volume is quite high compared to the average and what is important too is that the bar is gapping up and closing on its high.

In the case of bar B, it is more difficult to say. The trend is down and the bar looks like ND right at a trigger level. But it is also completing a bottom reversal and this could also be very bullish. The previous bar is on ultra high volume and this next bar is an up bar closing on its high. Previous bar was the effort and this one is the result and it shows confirmation of the up move.
  • #19,591
  • May 12, 2011 7:00am May 12, 2011 7:00am
Quoting dvarrin
Hi Malcolm,

I've some problems following the trend. It is not at all that easy for me :-( Often if I look at 4H or 1H chart and I see the trend is up, when I enter long on the 15M timeframe, then often I'm right at the point where the trend is actually reversing.

What are you looking at exactly to tell that the trend is going up or going down?
I see bar A as possible buying entering the market after what appeared to be stopping volume. The 3 bars before A we see a increaed volume, wide spread down bar closing on it's low, next bar is a ultra high volume downbar with less spread closing off it's low (possible SOS), and the third bar was an upbar confirming some buyers. Now bar A was a continutation of this but the lack of volume is concerning as it does show possible lack on interest from SM (now we can keep going up from here on low volume but...). This is why I mainly trade triggers because I would be looking for the close of this highest volume bar (or perhaps the H or L) to be tested to prove SOS before going long. As we can see that would have saved us on trading bar A which was just a sideways move which is fairly common when some demand starts to come in.

Now I see bar B as an upbar confirming the SO bar right before it. Agressive entry could be taken off this confirmation but the safe thing to do is wait for a move away from the SO and a weak retrace to test it confirming the strength.
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  • #19,592
  • May 12, 2011 7:08am May 12, 2011 7:08am
Quoting pres78
I see bar A as possible buying entering the market after what appeared to be stopping volume....
Can we say that bar A is actually a test of the high of the bar with the highest volume?
  • #19,593
  • May 12, 2011 7:09am May 12, 2011 7:09am
Quoting dvarrin
Can we say that bar A is actually a test of the high of the bar with the highest volume?
Not really no, you'd want the low of the test to be on to the high of the trigger bar. Bar A barely closes above the high of the trigger.
  • #19,594
  • May 12, 2011 7:18am May 12, 2011 7:18am
Quoting KinsaleForex
Not really no, you'd want the low of the test to be on to the high of the trigger bar. Bar A barely closes above the high of the trigger.
Ok :-) Ty KinsaleForex
  • #19,595
  • May 12, 2011 7:20am May 12, 2011 7:20am
Quoting dvarrin
Can we say that bar A is actually a test of the high of the bar with the highest volume?
It would a hidden test if anything as it is an upbar but really it ended up being a non buying pressure. I never like to trade a "test" bar as the first bar after we get above or below a trigger. The best trigger trades IMHO come after price has gotten above the trigger level for a long (whether it be the H/L or C) moved away some and then weakly retraces and then tests the trigger for a long entry.

Bar A is printed and the Close trigger has been left untested and it is bar A which takes us above the high trigger. So now for a long I either want to move away from the high and then come back to test or retrace back and test the Close or Low of the trigger bar... this never happens.
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  • #19,596
  • May 12, 2011 7:32am May 12, 2011 7:32am
i spy a high volume wide spread up bar forming on the hourly. ya baby. lets see what happens.
  • #19,597
  • May 12, 2011 7:35am May 12, 2011 7:35am
Thank you!!!! I think parts of a picture in my mind now came together.
  • #19,598
  • May 12, 2011 8:29am May 12, 2011 8:29am
Quoting dvarrin
Ty Malcolm! ;-)
Malcolm,

What do we do during days like today? Do we stay out of any trade? For example for EURUSD the long term trade is down, but today it is going up on M15 (except for a little trade at London opening).

Would you still take a short today if a SOW occurs?
  • #19,599
  • May 12, 2011 8:32am May 12, 2011 8:32am
Hmmmm.....
  • #19,600
  • May 12, 2011 8:39am May 12, 2011 8:39am
could someone look at the AJ for me and tell me what you see?...thanks RB
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