• Home
  • Forums
  • Trades
  • News
  • Calendar
  • Market
  • Brokers
  • Login
  • Join
  • User/Email: Password:
  • 11:44am
Menu
  • Forums
  • Trades
  • News
  • Calendar
  • Market
  • Brokers
  • Login
  • Join
  • 11:44am
Sister Sites
  • Metals Mine
  • Energy EXCH
  • Crypto Craft

Options

Bookmark Thread

First Page First Unread Last Page Last Post

Print Thread

Similar Threads

The Only Real Edge: Trading from Breakeven 102 replies

Traders with TE (demo or real) only 0 replies

Script to change EA to long only/ short only at a price level? 1 reply

Developing Real Strategies, My Head is Clouded 18 replies

  • Trading Systems
  • /
  • Reply to Thread
  • Subscribe
  • 19
Attachments: The Recent Only Real Deal in My Head
Exit Attachments
Tags: The Recent Only Real Deal in My Head
Cancel

The Recent Only Real Deal in My Head

  • Last Post
  •  
  • Page 1 23 4
  • Page 1 23 4
  •  
  • Post #1
  • Quote
  • First Post: Edited 4:49am May 6, 2011 3:50am | Edited 4:49am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
“In terms of the game theory, we might say the universe is so constituted as to maximize play. The best games are not those in which all goes smoothly and steadily toward a certain conclusion, but those in which the outcome is always in doubt.”

George B. Leonard


In game theory, Nash equilibrium (named after John Forbes Nash, who proposed it) is a solution concept of a game involving two or more players, in which each player is assumed to know the equilibrium strategies of the other players, and no player has anything to gain by changing only his own strategy unilaterally. If each player has chosen a strategy and no player can benefit by changing his or her strategy while the other players keep theirs unchanged, then the current set of strategy choices and the corresponding payoffs constitute a Nash equilibrium.

Stated simply, Amy and Phil are in Nash equilibrium if Amy is making the best decision she can, taking into account Phil's decision, and Phil is making the best decision he can, taking into account Amy's decision. Likewise, a group of players is in Nash equilibrium if each one is making the best decision that he or she can, taking into account the decisions of the others. However, Nash equilibrium does not necessarily mean the best cumulative payoff for all the players involved; in many cases all the players might improve their payoffs if they could somehow agree on strategies different from the Nash equilibrium (e.g., competing businesses forming a cartel in order to increase their profits).

The Nash equilibrium concept is used to analyze the outcome of the strategic interaction of several decision makers. In other words, it is a way of predicting what will happen if several people or several institutions are making decisions at the same time, and if the outcome depends on the decisions of the others. The simple insight underlying John Nash's idea is that we cannot predict the result of the choices of multiple decision makers if we analyze those decisions in isolation. Instead, we must ask what each player would do, taking into account the decision-making of the others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium

Welcome to the greatest business and “real” opportunity left on the planet, the futures and forex markets. Knowing a little unique information – for sure – and being able to act on it profitably – has never been as possible or
lucrative as it is today. A prime opportunity is unfolding today as I write this, and it will probably be possible for you to profit from it by the time you read this.

Right now, we have more products for trading available, futures contracts, options on contracts, futures index products, and forex trading banks that cater to smaller capital--- than ever before!

Joel Rensink

First Strike Pluz

THE RULES :
This method is quite simple and straightforward. Read the following directions a number of times. It will become clear as you work through a few examples on your own.

The most obvious feature of this version of FirstStrike is the fact that the buy/sell distances from the
week's open are adjusted by current volatility-- wider when the markets are volatile, and much closer
when the markets are calmer. Reliability and an increased win/loss ratio is a primary benefit

In addition, the “First Profitable Open” exit enables the trade to have a longer potential time frame
which can greatly increase profitability in volatile markets. Since time in a trade is one of the strongest
determinents of profitability, this method has the potential to earn more per trade than a fixed buy/sell
point ORB methodology, such as the original FirstStrike.

The ruleset follows....
When you are Flat the market

1. Before the market's open on Monday morning at 00:00 CST; you must know what the total
range of the previous week was, (high - low = range) and multiply that figure by .30 to obtain
the values which will determine our entry points for the next week----
(example: EUD/USD: last week's range (Oct. 6-10, 2008) was 527 pips (high:1.3785,
low:1.3258) Now multiply 527 x .30 = 158.1. Round up to get 159 pips. This figure is added
to/subtracted from the open for your entry orders in the next step. .

2. After Monday's morning open be ready to buy on a stop at the opening price + the quantity
from step (1). Or, be ready to sell at the price on a stop of the opening price - the quantity from
step (1).

3. Now we will determine our position stoploss levels-
Check back to step 1 to find the figure for last week's range. Following the example, the previous week's range was a total of 527 pips. Multiply 527 x .10 = 52.7. Again, round up to get 53 pips. If you get long you will place a position stop below the week's open a total of 53 pips (total risk in this example-- 159 + 53= 212) to protect your capital. The risk per trade will
change every week.

4. If you are not stopped out-- wait for the open of the next weekly bar, which would be the next
Monday morning at 00:00 CST. (For a short trade, reverse these instructions)
If exiting at the open of the next week would result in a profit, exit the market. If not, continue
holding until a succeeding week's opening price is profitable or you get stopped out for a loss. It
is possible, but not very likely, to be in a trade for a number of weeks after entry.

5. Keep monitoring and placing your current buy and sell prices for each week. Your new buy or sell orders for the week, under some rare circumstances; may be closer than a protective stop loss order for an existing position put on the week earlier that hasn't exited profitably yet.

6. This is good. You can save money by exiting and reversing position at the closer price. If you get out on the week's open at a profit from a previous long or short position, make sure your buy and/or sell orders are ready to be entered or placed in the market for execution for the next
week..

Joel Rensink

Except for this :
4. If you are not stopped out-- wait for the open of the next weekly bar, which would be the next
Monday morning at 00:00 CST. (For a short trade, reverse these instructions)
If exiting at the open of the next week would result in a profit, exit the market. If not, continue holding until a succeeding week's opening price is profitable or you get stopped out for a loss. It is possible, but not very likely, to be in a trade for a number of weeks after entry.

"I prefer myself to exit all trade on next Monday morning at when my broker open.

Roels Major

Great Thanks for Reyna for the indicator.

Intention : Need to transform this idea into an OCO EA. Wellcome to great coders here to produce an EA for helping this strategy run automatically in full mode and Wellcome to Traders to add more deals in their head here. Thank You.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...eRealThing.jpg
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 First Strike Plus.mq4   8 KB | 954 downloads
File Type: pdf FirstStrike_Plus.pdf   171 KB | 2,171 downloads
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
  • Post #2
  • Quote
  • Edited 4:16am May 6, 2011 3:59am | Edited 4:16am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
This visual performance based on the chart H1....
My Broker Demo Data is FBS....

GBP-USD

Week 1 (03-07 January 2011)
Risk : 76 pips
Trade : Sell at 1.5509
Trade Result : SL Sell at 1.5585 (76 pips loss)

Week 2 (10-14 January 2011)
Risk : 99 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.5595
Trade Result : Exit at Week 3 OP at 1.5864 (269 pips profit)

Week 3 (17-21 January 2011)
Risk : 165 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.5988
Trade Result : Exit at Week 4 OP at 1.6003 (15 pips profit)

Week 4 (24-28 January 2011)
Risk : 89 pips
Trade : Sell at 1.5936
Trade Result : Exit at Week 5 OP at 1.5850 (86 pips profit)

Week 5 (31 January-04 February 2011)
Risk : 107 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.5930
Trade Result : Exit at Week 6 OP at 1.6101 (171 pips profit)

Week 6 (07-11 February 2011)
Risk : 183 pips risk
Trade : Sell at 1.5964
Trade Result : Exit at Week 7 OP at 1.5986 (23 pips loss)

Week 7 (14-18 February 2011)
Risk : 88 pips risk
Trade : Buy at 1.6052
Trade Result : Exit at Week 8 OP at 1.6256 (204 pips profit)

Week 8 (21-25 February 2011)
Risk : 113 pips
Trade : Sell at 1.6172
Trade Result : Exit at Week 9 OP at 1.6112 (60 pips profit)

Week 9 (28 February-04 March 2011)
Risk : 96 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.6185
Trade Result : Exit at Week 10 OP at 1.6277 (92 pips profit)

Week 10 (07-11 March 2011)
Risk : 109 pips
Trade : Sell at 1.6195
Trade Result : Exit at Week 11 OP at 1.6088 (107 pips profit)

Week 11 (14-18 March 2011)
Risk : 146 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.6088
Trade Result : SL Buy at 1.6052 (146 pips loss)

Week 12 (21-25 March 2011)
Risk : 110 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.6301
Trade Result : SL Buy at 1.6190 (110 pips loss)

Week 13 (28 March-01 April 2011)
Risk : 156 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.6120
Trade Result : Exit at Week 14 OP at 1.6107 (13 pips loss)

Week 14 (04-08 April 2011)
Risk : 86 pips
Trade : Buy at 1.6171
Trade Result : Exit at Week 15 OP at 1.6376 (205 pips profit)

Week 15 (11-15 April 2011)
Risk : 135 pips
Trade : Sell at 1.6275
Trade Result : Exit at week 16 OP at 16309 (38 pips loss)

Week 16 (18-22 April 2011)
Risk : 80 pips risk
Trade : Sell at 1.6249
Trade Result : Exit at Stop Loss Sell at 1.6329 (80 pips loss)

Week 17 (25-29 April 2011)
Risk : 173 pips risk
Trade : Buy at 1.6647
Trade Result : Exit at week 17 OP at 1.6712 (66 pips profit)

Week 18 (02-06 May 2011)
Risk : 125 pips risk
Trade : Sell at 1.6618
Trade Result : Will exit at Week 19 OP on next Monday
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #3
  • Quote
  • May 6, 2011 5:45am May 6, 2011 5:45am
  •  raylin
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Nov 2007 | 402 Posts
Approx 1100 pips in 17 weeks very impressive results.
It would be ideal for a working 9-5 guy
Have you back tested this system
 
 
  • Post #4
  • Quote
  • May 6, 2011 7:01am May 6, 2011 7:01am
  •  billbss
  • Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 4,301 Posts
If you're stopped out during the week, do you reenter or are you through for the week?
Thanks
 
 
  • Post #5
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 12:41am May 7, 2011 12:41am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
Quoting raylin
Disliked
Approx 1100 pips in 17 weeks very impressive results.
It would be ideal for a working 9-5 guy
Have you back tested this system
Ignored
Actually if u think visual chart from week to week worth as backtesting.....the answer is yes.....
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #6
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 12:48am May 7, 2011 12:48am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
Quoting billbss
Disliked
If you're stopped out during the week, do you reenter or are you through for the week?
Thanks
Ignored
Only one trade a pair a week.....we enter the trade as pending order triggered at anytime during a week except 1 hour before broker close on Friday if none of any order trigger cause your broker may lower the leverage.....the order cancel another order (OCO).....
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #7
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 1:28am May 7, 2011 1:28am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
The Real Deal this week :

221 pips so far on GBP-USD
Attached Image
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #8
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 6:25am May 7, 2011 6:25am
  •  dim4ik42
  • Joined Apr 2008 | Status: Member | 1,270 Posts
Quoting RoelsMajor
Disliked
The Real Deal this week :

221 pips so far on GBP-USD
Ignored
Hello Roels!

Great trading strategy you bring here for us! Really!!!

I like methods of Joel Rensink because they are simply in understanding and robust in execution. I was thinking about starting to trade First Strike (before First Strike Plus) after I had backtesting it up and down... With several different parameters. You know - it was looking pretty decent for me then, and now too...

Although - I still do not trade it on my real account, because I trade some different strategies, I still want to emplement FS or FSP to my trading too...

One question I still have is - is it possible to use this strategy profitable at daily, not weekly basis???

Great thread! Keep it going!
Good luck!
 
 
  • Post #9
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 8:04am May 7, 2011 8:04am
  •  piptastic7
  • | Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Member | 127 Posts
Nice simple system,


But how to enter? Like go long or short?

Or do we do both long long and short?
 
 
  • Post #10
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 9:55am May 7, 2011 9:55am
  •  farsisub
  • | Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Member | 25 Posts
Quoting dzhini
Disliked
Try this EA. We need to improve this strategy.
Ignored
is there anyway we can backtest with this EA in Weekly TF in MT?
 
 
  • Post #11
  • Quote
  • Edited 8:31pm May 7, 2011 11:17am | Edited 8:31pm
  •  todd960960
  • | Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Member | 470 Posts
You say that you exit every trade before the open on Monday morning. So this week's GU you will be closing 00:00 GMT Monday morning (assuming you were trading live).

If your long gets triggered during one week, and the following week you have a sell stop that looks like it may get triggered, do you exit and reverse no matter if your in profit or loss?

(edit) ok i didn't read the instructions very well. If i'm in profit, i would have closed at the opening of the following week.

thx
 
 
  • Post #12
  • Quote
  • Edited May 8, 2011 6:24am May 7, 2011 1:12pm | Edited May 8, 2011 6:24am
  •  dzhini
  • | Joined Jun 2010 | Status: Member | 119 Posts
Quoting farsisub
Disliked
is there anyway we can backtest with this EA in Weekly TF in MT?
Ignored
I found one bug in EA. Download this one, please. If you found weekly TF in tester than ok. Try it.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 FirstStrikeEA.mq4   7 KB | 517 downloads
 
 
  • Post #13
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 1:21pm May 7, 2011 1:21pm
  •  roundrock
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: J16 Student | 902 Posts
what pairs it works ? only GU or other pairs also ? probably each pair may have its own 30% number
 
 
  • Post #14
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 8:18pm May 7, 2011 8:18pm
  •  Mombone
  • | Joined Sep 2007 | Status: Member | 169 Posts
If stopped out do you reverse if opposite signal is hit?
 
 
  • Post #15
  • Quote
  • May 7, 2011 8:40pm May 7, 2011 8:40pm
  •  stimpy
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Sep 2010 | 303 Posts
Quoting piptastic7
Disliked
Nice simple system,


But how to enter? Like go long or short?

Or do we do both long long and short?
Ignored
how can you say its a nice simple system when you clearly do not know what is going on?
 
 
  • Post #16
  • Quote
  • May 8, 2011 1:07am May 8, 2011 1:07am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
Quoting dim4ik42
Disliked

One question I still have is - is it possible to use this strategy profitable at daily, not weekly basis???
Ignored
I think there always possibility to be profitable on daily basis....but you must explore it first.....i don't have much that experience.....but this strategy based on Opening Range Breakout that catch trend and riding it.....it is not make huge gain in daily basis but if you think 20-30 pips is good for a day you would be better act like a guerilla and i'm sure there will be a thousands guerilla strategy that will fit you.....Sometime on daily basis maybe you will got 100 pips but it just rare occasion and maybe just 2-3 times a month.....I have read an article 72% of all breakouts fail and only 28% profitable but offer you the big gain......
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #17
  • Quote
  • May 8, 2011 1:10am May 8, 2011 1:10am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
Quoting piptastic7
Disliked
Nice simple system,


But how to enter? Like go long or short?

Or do we do both long long and short?
Ignored

1. Before the market's open on Monday morning at 00:00 CST; you must know what the total
range of the previous week was, (high - low = range) and multiply that figure by .30 to obtain
the values which will determine our entry points for the next week----
(example: EUD/USD: last week's range (Oct. 6-10, 2008) was 527 pips (high:1.3785,
low:1.3258) Now multiply 527 x .30 = 158.1. Round up to get 159 pips. This figure is added
to/subtracted from the open for your entry orders in the next step. .

2. After Monday's morning open be ready to buy on a stop at the opening price + the quantity
from step (1). Or, be ready to sell at the price on a stop of the opening price - the quantity from
step (1).

We put two pending orders (buy stop or sell stop).....One order cancel another order.....
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #18
  • Quote
  • May 8, 2011 1:20am May 8, 2011 1:20am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
Quoting roundrock
Disliked
what pairs it works ? only GU or other pairs also ? probably each pair may have its own 30% number
Ignored
It works well on GBP-USD but according Joel Rensink he trade 4 another pair like GBP-JPY, EU, USD-JPY, and USD-CHF.....30% is just a range that works globally no matter what pair you trade it will be counted by the indicator based on the range of the pair on a weeek....
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #19
  • Quote
  • May 8, 2011 1:20am May 8, 2011 1:20am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
Quoting todd960960
Disliked
You say that you exit every trade before the open on Monday morning. So this week's GU you will be closing 00:00 GMT Monday morning (assuming you were trading live).

If your long gets triggered during one week, and the following week you have a sell stop that looks like it may get triggered, do you exit and reverse no matter if your in profit or loss?

(edit) ok i didn't read the instructions very well. If i'm in profit, i would have closed at the opening of the following week.

thx
Ignored
We Buy Dips too...
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Post #20
  • Quote
  • May 8, 2011 1:26am May 8, 2011 1:26am
  •  RoelsMajor
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Break Time... | 647 Posts
Quoting Mombone
Disliked
If stopped out do you reverse if opposite signal is hit?
Ignored
Hi Mombone....just one trade a pair a week.....we open two pending order (buy stop and sell stop) a pair a week based on the range counted by the indicator....thats why we call the orders as an OCO (one pending order cancel another pending order).....
The Markets just don't care what U believe...
 
 
  • Trading Systems
  • /
  • The Recent Only Real Deal in My Head
  • Reply to Thread
    • Page 1 23 4
    • Page 1 23 4
0 traders viewing now
  • More
Top of Page
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
About FF
  • Mission
  • Products
  • User Guide
  • Media Kit
  • Blog
  • Contact
FF Products
  • Forums
  • Trades
  • Calendar
  • News
  • Market
  • Brokers
  • Trade Explorer
FF Website
  • Homepage
  • Search
  • Members
  • Report a Bug
Follow FF
  • Facebook
  • Twitter

FF Sister Sites:

  • Metals Mine
  • Energy EXCH
  • Crypto Craft

Forex Factory® is a brand of Fair Economy, Inc.

Terms of Service / ©2023