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  • Mar 28, 2011 11:37am Mar 28, 2011 11:37am
  •  Beljevina
  • Joined May 2009 | Status: Trading, Not Posting | 2,130 Posts
Quoting Beljevina
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I'm makin' myself upset here ... gotta stop (trying) to be so exact. Was off by 0.1 pips here, and miscalculated a buy limit based on spread, and missed out on 20 pips. Oh well - starting to look like the upthrust is being sold into on GU, although EU has made a new high.

Note to self: do 3 pips really matter in the scheme of things?
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Don't mean to beat this topic to death, but am just trying to reinforce a lesson to perhaps myself and anyone else that might benefit.

We upthrusted 20 pips after an almost bounce off the open, then came back down to retest it (to 1.60009 on my broker) and bounced a further enthusiastic 35+ pips.

I don't see anything on the M5 in that PA that is overwhelmingly obvious in terms of VSA, other than continued buying, defense and support at the day's (Sunday) open.

It is the bounce off that open that to me has the greatest meaning - if nothing else, 35 pips is nothing to sneeze at, in these wolf markets. It happens often, especially once PA is underway, in a significant session like London or NY. I find you can trade it with a tight SL (<5-10 pips), with a high risk-to-reward (ie., 25 pips minimum for TP1).

Be cautious though of sterling trades ... bad economic (growth) news is expected tomorrow.
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  • Mar 28, 2011 11:41am Mar 28, 2011 11:41am
  •  1pipperhour
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Quoting pres78
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What signals? Long or Short?
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Long. Here is the chart Bel
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  • Mar 28, 2011 11:59am Mar 28, 2011 11:59am
  •  leonarrdo
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Quoting Beljevina
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Yes I welcomed you when we had our misunderstanding last week. But I have to comment on this.

So you're OK at learning and peeking into other people's charts, yet there's some veil of privacy with posting yours ... in case you haven't noticed, this thread & forum is about sharing and then learning from it. Trading is overwhelmingly about charts, and often the look and content of other's charts can eye-open us to something we missed.

Lots more I can say here, but if it's just going to be cowboy calls that are also non-VSA, then I'm not quite sure...
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You’re correct I don’t want to be a hinder posting my chart; I bring nothing to the table when it comes to vsa I will not post again.
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 12:54pm Mar 28, 2011 12:54pm
  •  KinsaleForex
  • Joined Oct 2010 | Status: Looking at a few more charts... | 1,195 Posts
Quoting leonarrdo
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You’re correct I don’t want to be a hinder posting my chart; I bring nothing to the table when it comes to vsa I will not post again.
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Feel free to frequent the thread and ask questions if you're looking to learn about VSA, but making off hand calls without a chart doesn't help anyone at all. If you're taking a trade then by all means do, but if you're posting it in a VSA orientated thread without a VSA orientated chart then it's of no use to anyone. Surely you can understand that point?

I posted a chart of a losing trade earlier in the hope that someone can learn from it, that is what this thread is for.
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 3:24pm Mar 28, 2011 3:24pm
  •  PipPipPip
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Quoting pres78
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Well if that bar was all selling the next bar couldn't be up... acutually 3 of the next 4 were up... looks like 4060 was bought again as it was on Thursday.

I don't know if 4280 will fall until after EU rate announcement but if we test it early enough this week we could very well see 4400 which has been another level of price conjestion were bulls and bears spent some time bouncing back and forth.

If EU rate hike has truly been priced in we could see a real nice drop off if they maintain rates.
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Looks like the EU rate has not yet been priced in. As I predicted, I think we will see a drop in april. - ECB meeting says that they will raise the rates in april. Well of course, thats what they say.... But who knows, it may have already been priced in, and this could just be a retracement upwards?
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 3:55pm Mar 28, 2011 3:55pm
  •  tgwhbb
  • | Joined May 2010 | Status: Day by Day | 1,004 Posts
is anyone else considering today's daily bar as hidden test? Hidden or not will depend where the bar closes, but none the less it is looking like a down bar (thanks to the gap down opening on Sunday) closing on the highs on very low daily volume, with the low (sunday's low) testing the old top before the breakout.

Anyone else interpreting it the same way or do you see something different?
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  • Mar 28, 2011 4:08pm Mar 28, 2011 4:08pm
  •  Sambo9
  • | Joined Mar 2011 | Status: Member | 19 Posts
Hi all,

Please find attached the level I consider(ed) as support on the ES,

2nd support , it a level where supply turn demand , 1 & 2 on two high volume

1st support , ultra high volume bottom reversal, and the second bar printed a lower low than the previous bar, close on the top without increase in volume. I like this because , if you think of it as effort vs result this is powerful

However as I finish my graph the market went under those level like a hot knife in butter ..., I take this as very bearish, I will be looking for ND in a pullback on those level.

Since I'm rookie, I will be very happy to ear some feed back , if you see any incoherent thinking ... have a great end of day.

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  • Mar 28, 2011 4:14pm Mar 28, 2011 4:14pm
  •  USD-Bear
  • Joined May 2009 | Status: User of Geppy patience pills | 7,645 Posts
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no go, stopped @ 1320
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  • Mar 28, 2011 4:33pm Mar 28, 2011 4:33pm
  •  1pipperhour
  • Joined Jun 2010 | Status: Member | 1,487 Posts
Can anyone post USDX daily with volume? According to my broker's volume it is ns day but my broker's volume is no use and demos don't have USDX.

Thanks.
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 4:58pm Mar 28, 2011 4:58pm
  •  pres78
  • Joined Sep 2010 | Status: I'm not here... or am I? | 3,999 Posts
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Looks like the EU rate has not yet been priced in. As I predicted, I think we will see a drop in april. - ECB meeting says that they will raise the rates in april. Well of course, thats what they say.... But who knows, it may have already been priced in, and this could just be a retracement upwards?
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Retracement upwards? For that we would have to be in a downtrend which we are not. Friday didn't even close below 38.2 retrace of up leg 3.
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  • Mar 28, 2011 5:04pm Mar 28, 2011 5:04pm
  •  PipPipPip
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 1,259 Posts
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Retracement upwards? For that we would have to be in a downtrend which we are not. Friday didn't even close below 38.2 retrace of up leg 3.
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sorry for the confusion, i meant retracement before going upwards. haha. man, that didn't sound right, you're right.
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 6:26pm Mar 28, 2011 6:26pm
  •  Steve Gill
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Interesting day. I am always keen to watch Monday's for indication of direction for the rest of the week. Today was interesting because it appears the SM effectively withdrew interest for most of the US session.

I suspect accumulation during asia and the morning european session, and then the price was marked up in early afternoon GMT. There was volume in this move - did the SM withdraw as soon as supply was seen - realising this supply needs shaken out before this up move can continue? Or is this a genuine no demand for the day and we're going to head south to test the low 1.39s? I'm not clear yet - anyone else got any comments?
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  •  pres78
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Quoting Steve Gill
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Interesting day. I am always keen to watch Monday's for indication of direction for the rest of the week. Today was interesting because it appears the SM effectively withdrew interest for most of the US session.

I suspect accumulation during asia and the morning european session, and then the price was marked up in early afternoon GMT. There was volume in this move - did the SM withdraw as soon as supply was seen - realising this supply needs shaken out before this up move can continue? Or is this a genuine no demand for the day and we're going...
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Lot's of buying around 4025 when approached during first hour of NY session but steam ran out at DPP... Not much selling either as we have been drifiting down on nothing. True ND... hard to say could just be a slack Monday. Also the low was a nice test into 4020.
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  • Mar 28, 2011 6:49pm Mar 28, 2011 6:49pm
  •  PipPipPip
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Quoting Steve Gill
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Interesting day. I am always keen to watch Monday's for indication of direction for the rest of the week. Today was interesting because it appears the SM effectively withdrew interest for most of the US session.

I suspect accumulation during asia and the morning european session, and then the price was marked up in early afternoon GMT. There was volume in this move - did the SM withdraw as soon as supply was seen - realising this supply needs shaken out before this up move can continue? Or is this a genuine no demand for the day and we're going...
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Its true, lots of clutter on the ND up top. Also, maybe covering back the gap on the weekend?
Smaller timeframes does not show as bullish as the larger time frames. On this month's weekly, two weeks ago, has broken a major background of strength, and if this week does go up, it will be the third test. I want to see another test up to the close of two weeks ago, even if it won't break.
I do agree though, this up move is about a week behind on my projections....
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 7:07pm Mar 28, 2011 7:07pm
  •  pres78
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So Oil was offered up some nice trades today...

First chart 15min for finding nice triggers and a few entires pre LO...

Second Chart 5min used for perfecting entries after LO...
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  • Mar 28, 2011 9:24pm Mar 28, 2011 9:24pm
  •  Sonofsin5
  • Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Fading the specs | 1,374 Posts
SHAKEOUT
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 9:28pm Mar 28, 2011 9:28pm
  •  HiddenGap
  • Joined Aug 2009 | Status: Reading the tape | 2,324 Posts
Wow this thread moves really fast. That's great.

I know this is Forex Factory, but I see a couple more posts about the ES. I'm glad about that too.
Wyckoff VSA: (1) Supply vs Demand (2) Effort vs Result (3) Cause vs Effect
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 9:32pm Mar 28, 2011 9:32pm
  •  HiddenGap
  • Joined Aug 2009 | Status: Reading the tape | 2,324 Posts
Kinsaleforex,

I totally would have taken that same trade. Where did we go wrong? We do want to be careful here and not equate result with the correctness of the set-up.
Wyckoff VSA: (1) Supply vs Demand (2) Effort vs Result (3) Cause vs Effect
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 9:38pm Mar 28, 2011 9:38pm
  •  PipPipPip
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 1,259 Posts
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Ya i noticed it too on the 5m and 15m, but did not want to enter as asia open is always not a predicament of a good entry, at least for my observations. where did you notice it?

Also, it looks like asia open is forming a reversal? or it could still be too early
 
 
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  • Mar 28, 2011 9:41pm Mar 28, 2011 9:41pm
  •  Sonofsin5
  • Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Fading the specs | 1,374 Posts
Quoting PipPipPip
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Ya i noticed it too on the 5m and 15m, but did not want to enter as asia open is always not a predicament of a good entry, at least for my observations. where did you notice it?

Also, it looks like asia open is forming a reversal? or it could still be too early
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Im long eur and expecting 4150 test in london if we can get above todays highs.
 
 
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