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  • #23,641
  • Mar 24, 2011 11:39am Mar 24, 2011 11:39am
Hi fti

If you use "weight" field for orientation (the "good condom" for all time frames) ... ?

Rgs

I use something like this:
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  • #23,642
  • Mar 24, 2011 12:00pm Mar 24, 2011 12:00pm
Quoting supremeChaos
...btw, any way for us to get a glimpse of these private areas?i'd love to get a tour of such places
Quoting fti
not possible for retail .. To see true flow you need be "in the circle". Is networkings of top tier boys....
sounds like we retail people cant visit these private rooms.

minor questions: is it so private that even janitors are strictly monitored?
how many people are usually in those rooms? (people working there , & those 'in the circle' simply visiting)
  • #23,643
  • Edited 12:39pm Mar 24, 2011 12:09pm | Edited 12:39pm
Quoting supremeChaos
sounds like we retail people cant visit these private rooms.

minor questions: is it so private that even janitors are strictly monitored?
how many people are usually in those rooms? (people working there , & those 'in the circle' simply visiting)
You mistaken supremeChaos,
there's nothing special about the room. Looks like any ordinary dealing desk, only in private enclosure and have a lounge, private wash closets. Looks like a dealing desk in a conference room with a lounge.

Top tiers only meet in restuarants and drink holes, golf cources and sometimes cabarets. Never visit each otherat work.

The number of heads depends on the bank. Mostly below 8.
In tokyo i had seen rings of dealers, like in exchange floors.
Tier is not a place, is the people.
Comm is via very secured "outside" lines.


regards

ok catch some nap.
no shaking yet, anyway no need sleep with crash helmet yet.
Good Fortune.
  • #23,644
  • Mar 24, 2011 12:41pm Mar 24, 2011 12:41pm
ok catch some nap.
no shaking yet, anyway no need sleep with crash helmet yet.
Good Fortune. Fti

Good one! Take care, Ray
  • #23,645
  • Mar 24, 2011 2:37pm Mar 24, 2011 2:37pm
Quoting fti
oops, short of condoms.
need go 7eleven.
brb.

now i got the nurse all scared.
"the idiot is looking for condoms."


Everyone wants to know where i plan go camping?
i told them safest place now is graveyard.
no buildings for miles around.
OMG, woke up by heavy thunderstorm.

oh and just that there's no misunderstanding.
the idiot looking for condoms was me. Nurse is such a nice lass, i would never call her that. I was just trying guess her fears. thats all.

regards
  • #23,646
  • Mar 24, 2011 3:30pm Mar 24, 2011 3:30pm
ok , back to bed, try catch some rest.
no activity in markets and
is cold, and pouring dogs and cats outside.

regards
  • #23,647
  • Edited 4:19pm Mar 24, 2011 4:00pm | Edited 4:19pm
Quoting indianguyinny24


and saves you from lot of trouble later down the life...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gLlBv_SrZw

V
Cannot get back to sleep, so might as well walk around and wait for Tokyo opening.

Oh just to clearify, vic.
Being catholic , i cannot use it for that intended purpose. Only to carry water. Best water carrier i every used.Can carry large amounts of water and handy to store. You may like try check it out, is true.

oops, now peeps know why i carry that thingy around when i cannot use it the intended way. just me.
ever tried boiling water without container over open fire?
or want to know how to get drinking water, where no water source around? just me.

regards
  • #23,648
  • Mar 24, 2011 4:27pm Mar 24, 2011 4:27pm
Quoting fti
Cannot get back to sleep, so might as well walk around and wait for Tokyo opening.

Oh just to clearify, vic.
Being catholic , i cannot use it for that intended purpose. Only to carry water. Best water carrier i every used.Can carry large amounts of water and handy to store. You may like try check it out, is true.

oops, now peeps know why i carry that thingy around when i cannot use it the intended way. just me.
ever tried boiling water without container over open fire?
or want to know how to get drinking water, where no water source...
alright never heard about that use....



V
  • #23,649
  • Edited 4:50pm Mar 24, 2011 4:35pm | Edited 4:50pm
i have been hearing this from my kids time...

recently like phrases this make a lot of sense in life...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shayari


Borrowed from wiki

Shayari is a very unique and ecstatic poetic language used to express feelings and desires in very less and heart touching words. It is basically expression of ones feelings and desire

One for our leaders for free world...


“Na idhar udhar ki tu baat kar, ye bata ki kaafila kyun luta. Hamein rahjano se gila nahi, teri rahbari ka sawal hai"

Eng:"don’t talk about this and that, tell us why the caravan was looted. we dont have anger with looters, It is a question of your leadership why u took this way...."


V
  • #23,650
  • Mar 24, 2011 5:03pm Mar 24, 2011 5:03pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
i have been hearing this from my kids time...

recently like phrases this make a lot of sense in life...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shayari


Borrowed from wiki

Shayari is a very unique and ecstatic poetic language used to express feelings and desires in very less and heart touching words. It is basically expression of ones feelings and desire

One for our leaders for free world...


“Na idhar udhar ki tu baat kar, ye bata ki kaafila kyun luta. Hamein rahjano se gila nahi, teri rahbari ka sawal hai"

Eng:"don’t...
yes , vic
the paths we chose propel us to our destiny.

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  • #23,651
  • Edited 5:49pm Mar 24, 2011 5:12pm | Edited 5:49pm
Quoting fti
Cannot get back to sleep, so might as well walk around and wait for Tokyo opening.

Oh just to clearify, vic.
Being catholic , i cannot use it for that intended purpose. Only to carry water. Best water carrier i every used.Can carry large amounts of water and handy to store. You may like try check it out, is true.

oops, now peeps know why i carry that thingy around when i cannot use it the intended way. just me.
ever tried boiling water without container over open fire?
or want to know how to get drinking water, where no water source around?...
... for survival in the army taught me "use your head! everything you need, you already have!" ... maybe a knife and firestarter for comfort ...

why condom?
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PS fti is nothing against you ... I only remeber of my military training
  • #23,652
  • Mar 24, 2011 5:49pm Mar 24, 2011 5:49pm
Quoting fti
OMG, woke up by heavy thunderstorm.

oh and just that there's no misunderstanding.
the idiot looking for condoms was me. Nurse is such a nice lass, i would never call her that. I was just trying guess her fears. thats all.

regards

huh, maybe a hand butterfly?
Regards

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  • #23,653
  • Mar 24, 2011 7:18pm Mar 24, 2011 7:18pm
Hi fti, I heard from previous sales trader that starting off as an analyst with CPA will help you get into trading (working your way up). But I am wondering what the process for employment as a dealer is?
  • #23,654
  • Mar 24, 2011 7:24pm Mar 24, 2011 7:24pm
Quoting fullperson
Hi fti, I heard from previous sales trader that starting off as an analyst with CPA will help you get into trading (working your way up). But I am wondering what the process for employment as a dealer is?
I guess u mean CFA...CPA is for accountant
  • #23,655
  • Mar 24, 2011 8:00pm Mar 24, 2011 8:00pm
sorry, yes.


Quoting indianguyinny24
I guess u mean CFA...CPA is for accountant
  • #23,656
  • Edited 9:45pm Mar 24, 2011 8:48pm | Edited 9:45pm
Quoting fullperson
Hi fti, I heard from previous sales trader that starting off as an analyst with CPA will help you get into trading (working your way up). But I am wondering what the process for employment as a dealer is?

there is no process. You want it ,you finish your acedemics and you go use your balls and start knocking AGGRESSIVELY on doors at banks. Check every opportunity into the every banks treasury department you can get to. Make 100 calls if you have to.Crash thru any treasury door that youcan get thru. You only need 1 to open. Last i know there are 197 bank treasurys and 5 active world sectors that you can try. Then sit down and prove your skills. Give them reasons to check you out.

If you need be taught even to do that, then ????
When you ask people for advise. Make sure you barking up the right tree. Why ask sales and services about treasury. What does sales know about treasury?
you can go take your CPA, CFA,ACCA,NFA, doesn't matter. Won't do swat for you.When you get on the seat, then the bosses will make sure you get every piece of paper you need get to get your credentials. You Get all the certs, the currency period is 2 years. You not get on the job in 2 years , you can wipe your donkey with the paper.

You either have great trading skills and they invite in on the red carpet and/or if you young and have the balls,you need to ask someone who is in position and can take the risk, for a chance to be used. Only volcabulary you need to use when you start is yours and mine. If your book looks good you fly
, if your book looks bad, it doesn't matter if you PHD and cousin to jesus christ. Won't save you. Be humble and show great book, DO NOT walk around as if you was the best thingy since apple pie, and you will be respected. Walk around like Joe smoe and the the first time your book is weak, and the whole world will swallow you whole.

And remember,
even a fish will not get into trouble, if it knows when not to open its mouth.

Pleaase notgo ask the cashiers and banking officers about treasury, they know as much as John Doe about treasury. In this thread i had sneaked much regarding the structured departments of bank treasurys. If you cannot find that from your reading . Then i think it may be difficult for you find the markets.

Most importants skills you must have is ability to reasearch,listen and think. Would you entrust 10 million on a person to trade for you, who keep asking general questions?

Just for info, treasury is one place where you will hear the most profound and detailed vulgarities. The stress levels there are highest and almost everyone there is at the edge. So try not step on any toes if you get there.


regards
  • #23,657
  • Mar 24, 2011 10:09pm Mar 24, 2011 10:09pm
Quoting fti

there is no process. You want it ,you finish your acedemics and...
FP ,

If i may provide small 2 cent opinion or advice....

This thread has everything....People got Full time Trading offer from this thread...

Why dont u take a chance on urself.... you have everything here and i can see you know what u r doing... u r on right track...

At the End job is a job... some one told me full form of JOB (Just Over Broke)

Anyhow just my small mouth opinion....

V
  • #23,658
  • Mar 24, 2011 10:32pm Mar 24, 2011 10:32pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
FP ,


At the End job is a job... some one told me full form of JOB (Just Over Broke)

Anyhow just my small mouth opinion....

V

Nice one Vick
"Thinking Heart & Feeling Brain"
  • #23,659
  • Edited 2:11am Mar 25, 2011 1:53am | Edited 2:11am
Quoting Sylar
Thank u Fti

It confirmed and clarified my doubts

Another qns if i u r not too tired... Besides the privy of working in Tier 1 where else can us retail trader get a slight possible glimpse on info of Order Flow, Option Barriers etc

What i can think of are subscribed services like IFR News Feeds, Bloomberg etc
You can start by writing options and forwards for customers in almost any Bank. With time they might let you trade the banks money.
  • #23,660
  • Mar 25, 2011 2:54am Mar 25, 2011 2:54am
Thank you for the advice guys. Like mentioned, dealers are on the edge, so I want to be very professional when I knock aggressively on these banks.

Is calling a treasury like calling any other business? (I have not called a bank treasury before). Which treasury member to speak to (a senior dealer? HR?), what to say besides being interested to catch their attention, best time to call (after hours when business slows)?

I plan on doing this kind of networking over my summer vacation, so this info is good for me to know.

Meanwhile, I intend on studying this method as well as finishing the ACI dealing handbook as background info.




Quoting fti

there is no process. You want it ,you finish your acedemics and...
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