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  • #9,221
  • Jan 7, 2011 1:09pm Jan 7, 2011 1:09pm
Quoting tgwhbb
My volume looks nothing like Intel's either...first chart mt4 from forex.com, second chart esignal feed
tgwhbb, Intel, You guys might want to re-evaluate your MT4 demo broker - I think the MT4 volume views each of your brokers is giving you is either filtered or lacks a wide input of key market participants. I've always though it's key to know who provides your broker's liquidity.

That last dip to 1.54270 on the hourly is barely distinguishable in your BetterVolume display ... I think the BetterVolume quantities are significant here too: I think I saw 594 as the peak for one H1 MT4 chart, and 1500 or so for another.

Compare that to the eSignal feed showing HUGE buying on that dip and the highest yet M15 tick volume of almost 27,000 - that has to be that collective tick display of those 200+ that their feed pulls from.

And finally compare that to my MT4 with Citibank as the liquidity provider - peak volume also coming through on that last dip of 5,680+ - we never get to know who uses who as a broker, but you have to assume that Citibank trading reflects themselves as a market maker and a good swath of smart money and other key market drivers. In short, my Mt4 shows the closes correlation to eSignal, along with that huge last volume spike.

CollectiveFX is launching a new site, so there's no demo link available there - you can use this one - choose DEMO3 which should be CitiBank; the other feeds are Currenex and HotSpot.

Having said all that, you'd think I was there to take the long ... but, NO!
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  • #9,222
  • Jan 7, 2011 1:25pm Jan 7, 2011 1:25pm
Quoting Beljevina
tgwhbb, Intel, You guys might want to re-evaluate your MT4 demo broker - I think the MT4 volume views each of your brokers is giving you is either filtered or lacks a wide input of key market participants. I've always though it's key to know who provides your broker's liquidity.

That last dip to 1.54270 on the hourly is barely distinguishable in your BetterVolume display ... I think the BetterVolume quantities are significant here too: I think I saw 594 as the peak for one H1 MT4 chart, and 1500 or so for another.

Compare that to the eSignal...
How long can you have a demo account for without opening a real accont?
  • #9,223
  • Jan 7, 2011 1:35pm Jan 7, 2011 1:35pm
Quoting Intel
How long can you have a demo account for without opening a real accont?
Don't quote me - but I think as long as there is activity through logging on, as well as transactions - it might be indefinitely. I've set up tons of them, using them for EA testing - when an EA has messed up/blown up an account - and then I've gone back to check say a month or more after, the account is dead. But I have at least one demo that is at least 6-9 months old. (And not more because they changed their infrastructure) Sorry I don't know the exact answer - I can't imagine them tying their customer base to the demo client list - I think I even gave a fake name for the demo!
  • #9,224
  • Jan 7, 2011 1:51pm Jan 7, 2011 1:51pm
Quoting Beljevina
Don't quote me - but I think as long as there is activity through logging on, as well as transactions - it might be indefinitely. I've set up tons of them, using them for EA testing - when an EA has messed up/blown up an account - and then I've gone back to check say a month or more after, the account is dead. But I have at least one demo that is at least 6-9 months old. (And not more because they changed their infrastructure) Sorry I don't know the exact answer - I can't imagine them tying their customer base to the demo client list - I think I...
i only have demo and demo-1
  • #9,225
  • Jan 7, 2011 2:01pm Jan 7, 2011 2:01pm
Quoting Beljevina
Don't quote me - but I think as long as there is activity through logging on, as well as transactions - it might be indefinitely. I've set up tons of them, using them for EA testing - when an EA has messed up/blown up an account - and then I've gone back to check say a month or more after, the account is dead. But I have at least one demo that is at least 6-9 months old. (And not more because they changed their infrastructure) Sorry I don't know the exact answer - I can't imagine them tying their customer base to the demo client list - I think I...
I have it and will compare the both for a while. I like FXCM very much. Yes they have a few problems here and there but, for the way I trade the volume feed is great.

City fx might be better, who knows. I'll try them.

Many thanks Bel. BTW I now have the ultra high volume for the news bar
  • #9,226
  • Jan 7, 2011 2:16pm Jan 7, 2011 2:16pm
Quoting Intel
How long can you have a demo account for without opening a real accont?
I have 2 demos on broker where I have live account. Then I have Interbanks demo, fxopen demo, and one demo, don't remember the broker, but it is still sending me e-mail notifications of my balance , but I haven't logged in there about a year now. They all work.
  • #9,227
  • Jan 7, 2011 2:25pm Jan 7, 2011 2:25pm
I compared few brokers and volume on both CollectiveFX and Dukascopy are pretty the same (I do not see much difference to eSignal), next is FXPro (poor quality comparing to eSignal), and the worst volume is on Alpari.UK

Thank you for pointing that out. I have also checked indicator which I wrote learning VSA and I can say that CollectiveFX is my favourite from now.
  • #9,228
  • Jan 7, 2011 2:37pm Jan 7, 2011 2:37pm
Quoting RaverStyleTim2
i only have demo and demo-1
Now I'm a little stumped I guess ... where I though I was using a demo account, was just an unfunded real MT4 account.

I tried creating a new demo, and if I choose the demo1 link, it's close in terms of the volume displayed but not like my live feed ... hmmm ... will have to ask my broker about that ... the demo display still clearly shows that drop to 1.542, but is off by a few hundred on the volume tick count. Sorry - didn't realize there was that discrepancy between live and demo - not necessary a bad thing in this case, just somethign to make me go hmm ... surprisingly, they've got tons of different spot feeds ... I can only guess it is prep work for their new infrastructure which will include not only additional feeds but auto trading of their own bots/EAs.
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  • #9,229
  • Jan 7, 2011 2:46pm Jan 7, 2011 2:46pm
Quoting McL
I compared few brokers and volume on both CollectiveFX and Dukascopy are pretty the same (I do not see much difference to eSignal) ...
... no difference to eSignal I assume, in terms of the relational and height changes from bar to bar, correct? Because, the eSignal actual volume tick count should still be way higher, ie., like the 5600 benchmark for that GBPUSD downthrust, since they have these 200 institutions.

Quoting McL
Thank you for pointing that out. I have also checked indicator which I wrote learning VSA and I can say that CollectiveFX is my favourite from now.
What's this I hear? Something to help with learning VSA? Anything we could benefit from ... ?!
  • #9,230
  • Jan 7, 2011 3:09pm Jan 7, 2011 3:09pm
Quoting Beljevina
... no difference to eSignal I assume, in terms of the relational and height changes from bar to bar, correct?
volume is different of course
Quoting Beljevina
What's this I hear? Something to help with learning VSA? Anything we could benefit from ... ?!
It's pretty not usable for now (just to mark some groups of bars to see how vsa works), but I don't see problem sharing it when it's done
  • #9,231
  • Jan 8, 2011 4:36am Jan 8, 2011 4:36am
http://www.komonews.com/home/video/111892554.HTML
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  • #9,232
  • Jan 8, 2011 7:09am Jan 8, 2011 7:09am
evry broker hs different volume,

since forex is decentralised i dont know where to look anymore

the red dot shows the comparison with fxcm and ducascopy,i tried alpari before they had the biggest tick volume,go markets had the smallest
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  • #9,233
  • Jan 8, 2011 8:13am Jan 8, 2011 8:13am
Quoting Intel
I have it and will compare the both for a while. I like FXCM very much. Yes they have a few problems here and there but, for the way I trade the volume feed is great.

City fx might be better, who knows. I'll try them.

Many thanks Bel. BTW I now have the ultra high volume for the news bar
hi intel i am a newbie for vsa can you share me your template and indi? thks very much~!
  • #9,234
  • Jan 8, 2011 10:11am Jan 8, 2011 10:11am
Quoting 41413592
hi intel i am a newbie for vsa can you share me your template and indi? thks very much~!
I only use 1 indicator and thats for the ADR. That is an indi which I have modified without the owners permission so I would rather not distribute it in that form. You're welcome to the original tho.
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  • #9,235
  • Jan 8, 2011 10:39am Jan 8, 2011 10:39am
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  • #9,236
  • Jan 8, 2011 11:51am Jan 8, 2011 11:51am
Quoting dragan53
evry broker hs different volume,..since forex is decentralised i dont know where to look anymore....
Esignal data feed with GTIS. Last time I checked it was in $75.00 -$100.00 a month range.

Or you can pick any broker and just trade what you see.
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #9,237
  • Jan 8, 2011 12:11pm Jan 8, 2011 12:11pm
Quoting HiddenGap
Esignal data feed with GTIS. Last time I checked it was in $75.00 -$100.00 a month range.

Or you can pick any broker and just trade what you see.
That same sentence keeps poping up time and time again, and its great advice every time.
  • #9,238
  • Jan 8, 2011 2:18pm Jan 8, 2011 2:18pm
Quoting HiddenGap
Esignal data feed with GTIS. Last time I checked it was in $75.00 -$100.00 a month range.

Or you can pick any broker and just trade what you see.
Our last statement was as follows;

Esignal data = $54
GTIS = $50
VAT = $18.20

Total = $122.20
  • #9,239
  • Jan 8, 2011 4:51pm Jan 8, 2011 4:51pm
Hey guys, I have a question regarding the ultra high volume on cable - weekly and daily. Although I'm not too familiar with VSA I know that high volume near support is accumulating and that in my opinion is what's happenning with GBP/USD. Am I reading it right ?
  • #9,240
  • Jan 8, 2011 6:50pm Jan 8, 2011 6:50pm
Quoting HiddenGap
Esignal data feed with GTIS. Last time I checked it was in $75.00 -$100.00 a month range.

Or you can pick any broker and just trade what you see.
i know e-signal is the best for sure,but i dont have that much money now,
do u know if futures trading data is included in the currency pair volume?
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