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  • #301
  • Dec 29, 2010 6:52pm Dec 29, 2010 6:52pm
i get what u mean,but the proffesional money doesnt trade with fxcm,fxcm gives us volume of their customers only,not the whole market

whos ur futures volume broker,i wanna see if can get a demo with them

cheers
  • #302
  • Dec 30, 2010 12:43am Dec 30, 2010 12:43am
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  • #303
  • Dec 30, 2010 10:11pm Dec 30, 2010 10:11pm
Quoting dragan53
i get what u mean,but the proffesional money doesnt trade with fxcm,fxcm gives us volume of their customers only,not the whole market

whos ur futures volume broker,i wanna see if can get a demo with them

cheers
Tick volume is the number of times price changed. TW said in the absence of regular volume you may use tick volume. I've used it effectively, but check out Intel he uses FXCM and is a volume beast.

I have compared a ton of other brokers' volume and FXCM/IBFX is (most of the time) exactly the same as Esign. It is different from futures volume (think or swim by the way) but who cares you're looking for supply or demand to swamp the market, then you're looking for lack of buying/selling you don't need perfect volume just experience.
  • #304
  • Dec 30, 2010 10:23pm Dec 30, 2010 10:23pm
thanks ill have a 2nd try,i didnt know that its nealy the same as esignal,i saw intels better volume teacher and i was thinkign what an idiot for using m4 volume it doesnt work,but if u say that its similar to esignal than it must be ,

cheerz
  • #305
  • Dec 30, 2010 10:26pm Dec 30, 2010 10:26pm
if someone is doing an otc ecchange and that doesnt show up in volume ,can that affect the price?
  • #306
  • Dec 31, 2010 1:20am Dec 31, 2010 1:20am
Quoting dragan53
if someone is doing an otc ecchange and that doesnt show up in volume ,can that affect the price?
All I can say is that when you see UHV it doesn't matter if it's tick or regular volume, just check for yourself. All you're trying to decide is if SM is active during that period of time (bar).

Here is a screen shot from august.

Stopping volume=pros are active

No supply=ready to move up

Can you find these?

Edit:

This is actually a short, I entered short at the no supply after the buying climax.
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  • #307
  • Dec 31, 2010 10:01pm Dec 31, 2010 10:01pm
Quoting frankkn
All I can say is that when you see UHV it doesn't matter if it's tick or regular volume, just check for yourself. All you're trying to decide is if SM is active during that period of time (bar).

Here is a screen shot from august.

Stopping volume=pros are active

No supply=ready to move up

Can you find these?

Edit:

This is actually a short, I entered short at the no supply after the buying climax.
26 AUGUST looks like a sell order that got absorbed,13.15 if i see right

i dont get the last up bar,how did that form,at the point where u shorted it,

it look like buying to me,down bull bar,with down bear bars ,looks like bait worked,and all the supply drops on them

but what made it go up ,did the pro money buy at that level,or did the weak buy?

and happy new year frankn
  • #308
  • Jan 1, 2011 3:38pm Jan 1, 2011 3:38pm
Quoting dragan53
26 AUGUST looks like a sell order that got absorbed,13.15 if i see right

i dont get the last up bar,how did that form,at the point where u shorted it,

it look like buying to me,down bull bar,with down bear bars ,looks like bait worked,and all the supply drops on them

but what made it go up ,did the pro money buy at that level,or did the weak buy?

and happy new year frankn
Hey man not much time I'll get back to you on this, happy new year bro! Let's have some consistent profits during 2011
  • #309
  • Jan 1, 2011 3:40pm Jan 1, 2011 3:40pm
These are all EU, first daily with gray weekly levels. Next is 4h with levels, followed by a 15 with a demand level.

So I'm thinking long at the 15m demand level because the daily momentum is up. We could be looking at a possible turn at either of those yellow supply levels on the second chart (4h).
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  • #310
  • Jan 1, 2011 3:49pm Jan 1, 2011 3:49pm
A is stopping volume, followed by B which is no supply. Check out the corresponding 15m chart as well. C is buying climax followed by no demand, my short order was just under the no demand. This stuff repeats again and again, I wasn't around for A and B (the better trade) but managed to catch C and D.
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  • #311
  • Jan 2, 2011 9:54am Jan 2, 2011 9:54am
Quoting frankkn
A is stopping volume, followed by B which is no supply. Check out the corresponding 15m chart as well. C is buying climax followed by no demand, my short order was just under the no demand. This stuff repeats again and again, I wasn't around for A and B (the better trade) but managed to catch C and D.
stopping volume,isnt it when theres shorts,they buy it back ,and it goes up?

maybe they distributed the stock at that time,ye that could be stopping volume for sure

im looking at m15,and i think they distributed a large part of their holdings into the shorts getting covered,
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  • #312
  • Jan 2, 2011 9:59am Jan 2, 2011 9:59am
check this out,thv indi that i found,shows great when theres a need for up/down
then purple shows that theres not more need for it to go to that direction(asia),so turnover,this is good for super pump and dumps
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  • #313
  • Jan 2, 2011 10:03am Jan 2, 2011 10:03am
happy new year to u to frankn,i wish u all the best,and of course happy pipping!
  • #314
  • Jan 2, 2011 10:12am Jan 2, 2011 10:12am
might be past ,but sounds good
my orthodox christmas is still to come
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  • #315
  • Jan 2, 2011 10:54am Jan 2, 2011 10:54am
Quoting dragan53
stopping volume,isnt it when theres shorts,they buy it back ,and it goes up?

maybe they distributed the stock at that time,ye that could be stopping volume for sure

im looking at m15,and i think they distributed a large part of their holdings into the shorts getting covered,

Stopping volume = buying climax. UHV means pros are active, and when you see this as price is dropping into a demand level it represents buying. VSA calls this stopping volume. Buying climax is the opposite.
  • #316
  • Jan 2, 2011 10:58am Jan 2, 2011 10:58am
Quoting dragan53
check this out,thv indi that i found,shows great when theres a need for up/down
then purple shows that theres not more need for it to go to that direction(asia),so turnover,this is good for super pump and dumps
I don't quite understand.

I just like to keep it super simple, I'm not an expert at VSA but I can identify supply swamping demand. You see SV/BC then you see ND/NS and sometimes tests and shakeouts. These things are all well and good but to me they are nothing without supply and demand zones. I trade with limit orders so I'm not really concerning myself with volume too much.

If you place your limit orders correctly, then you are part of the big volume.
  • #317
  • Jan 2, 2011 9:10pm Jan 2, 2011 9:10pm
Quoting dragan53
might be past ,but sounds good
my orthodox christmas is still to come
Hahaha same to you dude!
  • #318
  • Jan 2, 2011 9:12pm Jan 2, 2011 9:12pm
Rocky start to the new year. I'm experimenting with only trading with the daily trend as defined by the 5/12 ema. Here are two failed trades and a pending long. 1:3 risk:reward all day btw.

Edit:

Just wanted to add that in addition to experimenting with trading with the daily trend, I'm not trading into daily/weekly SD levels rather towards and away from them.
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  • #319
  • Jan 2, 2011 9:52pm Jan 2, 2011 9:52pm
it dropped heavily on high volume selling,i just bought it
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  • #320
  • Jan 3, 2011 12:45am Jan 3, 2011 12:45am
do u mean something like this?
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