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  • #81
  • Dec 4, 2010 10:27pm Dec 4, 2010 10:27pm
Quoting carmel
I've searched the thread and can't seem to find the directions for using this set of indicators. Probably under my nose but I can't seem to find them! Thanks!
We're looking to buy when a candle closes above the hull after a blue signal.
And sell when a candle closes below the hull after an orange candle.
5m gives lots of signals
15 min signals may be better.
  • #82
  • Dec 5, 2010 5:47am Dec 5, 2010 5:47am
Quoting a_trader
heres version 2
made all settings editable, now you can explore other settings
added sound, popup, email...alerts

you could be making your own indy in a few hours without coding knowledge
read the tutorials at the link jiva posted
within the hour youl see how to edit this indy to your own system

even if you know nothing about coding, itl click quickly

the upper section is buy rules, the lower is sell
each line is a indy
you can disable a indy by commenting out the line
//

//this comment makes the text turn gray, this line is not compiled, it...

Been putting time into studying the coding.

The pop up alert and sound function

in tc jiva2 isn't quite right.

Tried to get it to work but no luck....
  • #83
  • Dec 5, 2010 6:42am Dec 5, 2010 6:42am
you mean in tester?
wel test it when market opens
  • #84
  • Dec 5, 2010 7:08am Dec 5, 2010 7:08am
Quoting jiva34
Been putting time into studying the coding.

The pop up alert and sound function

in tc jiva2 isn't quite right.

Tried to get it to work but no luck....
Jiva, shortcut for coding. Look at the code in any indicator, which

already has sound and alert working, just copy code from there

It's easy.

Those who understand the code don't even need to code anything. Everything

you possibly think of already has been code it. You just have to know how to use google

or take code pieces from gazillion existing indies or EA's..
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  • #85
  • Dec 5, 2010 8:17am Dec 5, 2010 8:17am
Finally got everything up - including Hull - thanks, jiva34.

pipsacker
  • #86
  • Dec 5, 2010 8:51am Dec 5, 2010 8:51am
Quoting SkyzerFX
Jiva, shortcut for coding. Look at the code in any indicator, which

already has sound and alert working, just copy code from there

It's easy.

Those who understand the code don't even need to code anything. Everything

you possibly think of already has been code it. You just have to know how to use google

or take code pieces from gazillion existing indies or EA's..
Naturally I thought I could do that, but somehow I still couldn't get it to work right. Eventually, all things in time....
  • #87
  • Dec 5, 2010 8:52am Dec 5, 2010 8:52am
Quoting a_trader
you mean in tester?
wel test it when market opens
tester...
  • #88
  • Dec 5, 2010 1:54pm Dec 5, 2010 1:54pm
sorry about that, i had gotten ahead of myself and didnt finish it

try this one
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  • #89
  • Dec 5, 2010 4:24pm Dec 5, 2010 4:24pm
Quoting a_trader
sorry about that, i had gotten ahead of myself and didnt finish it

try this one
Hi a_t. Is this newer tc indi needed? What does it change?
  • #90
  • Dec 5, 2010 5:00pm Dec 5, 2010 5:00pm
Quoting jiva34
We're looking to buy when a candle closes above the hull after a blue signal.

And sell when a candle closes below the hull after an orange candle.

5m gives lots of signals

15 min signals may be better.


Hey Jiva. A couple of ?'s & comments. [By the way, the "Wood Pivots" Kick]



• When you refer to the "hull" I believe you mean the hma_Colorb, correct?



• When exactly does the hull change colors? On the close of the candle that corresponds with the color change, or the following candle?



• Is the DSS still useful?


••• All charts and comments in reference to Eur/Usd pair.
• I've been conducting a visual inspection of various TF's. The 15m, after the FFurt open, in particular. What I'm seeing is that usually once the hull has changed color for the second* time (after 2pm est) an entry will do quite well. There are some exceptions which I will document later. One possible exception is if the 2nd entry fails, the 3rd one will work. So far Oct 29th is the only day in which there was only 1 change of direction.
* I don't like using the 1st candle of the FF open in the color change count.

• Once the hull has changed color during the FF_London sessions, most of the time you're good to hang with it until another color change, or some predetermined reversal stop.


• I have added an indicator called "iSessions pst" to my charts to highlight the 3 major sessions. I've also changed the tc bars colors for my personal preference. Red for short & White for long.

I've included a few charts & the iSessons indicator for anyone that cares to use it.

Settings for iSessions based on FXDD time which is eastern time +7 hours
Asian Session
• 2:00 - 8:45

Euro Session (Frankfurt open)
• 9:00 - 17:15

US Open
• 17:30 - 23:45

• The background color settings I use for all sessions is 30,49,49. This allows good definition.
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  • #91
  • Dec 5, 2010 5:52pm Dec 5, 2010 5:52pm
fixed the alerts

Quoting diamonddbw
Hi a_t. Is this newer tc indi needed? What does it change?
  • #92
  • Dec 6, 2010 1:44am Dec 6, 2010 1:44am
Quoting a_trader
sorry about that, i had gotten ahead of myself and didnt finish it

try this one
Working good..

I want to see what you did to it...

edit: okay....
Thank you..
  • #93
  • Dec 6, 2010 2:08am Dec 6, 2010 2:08am
Quoting diamonddbw
Hey Jiva. A couple of ?'s & comments. [By the way, the "Wood Pivots" Kick]



• When you refer to the "hull" I believe you mean the hma_Colorb, correct?



• When exactly does the hull change colors? On the close of the candle that corresponds with the color change, or the following candle?



• Is the DSS still useful?


••• All charts and comments in reference to Eur/Usd pair.
• I've been conducting a visual inspection of various TF's. The 15m, after the FFurt open, in particular. What I'm seeing is that usually once...
There's something supernatural going on here, you read my mind, the sessions indi is exactly what I was thinking to try to find.....

Nice research on market times. Will be watching that closely. It is a much bigger factor in trading than is often given attention. Everyone watching indis, and bands, and candles, but the market time factor is huge.....

>>>
• When you refer to the "hull" I believe you mean the hma_Colorb, correct?<<<

That is correct... I've set it to 34...

>>>• When exactly does the hull change colors? On the close of the candle that corresponds with the color change, or the following candle?<<<

I think this is the line of code that shows we are looking at the close...
Maybe a-trader is nearby...

buffer[i]=iMA(NULL,0,MathFloor
(HMA_Period/2),0,MODE_LWMA,PRICE_CLOSE,i)*2-
iMA(NULL,0,HMA_Period,0,MODE_LWMA,PRICE_CLOSE,i);


>>>• Is the DSS still useful?<<<

DSS is weird.. I originally tried to use it to show good entries on the original strategy where a close above channel high was a buy, but it always seemed to go against. It does help for the inverse strategy. It is significant.

Thanks for posting thorough research. Much appreciated.
  • #94
  • Dec 6, 2010 2:12am Dec 6, 2010 2:12am
Quoting diamonddbw
Hey Jiva. A couple of ?'s & comments. [By the way, the "Wood Pivots" Kick]



• When you refer to the "hull" I believe you mean the hma_Colorb, correct?



• When exactly does the hull change colors? On the close of the candle that corresponds with the color change, or the following candle?



• Is the DSS still useful?


••• All charts and comments in reference to Eur/Usd pair.
• I've been conducting a visual inspection of various TF's. The 15m, after the FFurt open, in particular. What I'm seeing is that usually once...
What time frame are you watching?
  • #95
  • Edited 3:46am Dec 6, 2010 2:29am | Edited 3:46am

This is an update page referenced to on the title page.

Many thanks to a_trader for the super indicator which acts like a signal provider for the strategy... This makes it possible to very easily and without cluttering up the charts with tons of lines like a spaghetti dinner to see where the entries are.

This may solve the problem of discerning good entries from bad entries. Not all signals are good.
I have added the "hull".
When there is a signal to enter long, seen as a blue candle we would wait for a close above the hull.
When there is a signal to enter short we would wait for a close below the hull.
The chart stays clean and simple, ahhh... a dream come true....
I also like to follow wood pivot points for subjective. They are like magnets, lots of orders seem to be placed at the pivots...

We look for short when candle closes below the hull after a short signal (orange).
We look for long when candle closes above the hull after a long signal (blue).
Best market times are highlighted.

So let's trade manually for a while and get it right.



We tried using pending pips for pending orders when the channel was breached, but the hull may be a much better idea.... it varies with market conditions... whereas pending pips is rigid and fixed...

The downloads posted here and below are the only downloads you will need to follow the thread as it is presently. 12/6/10


http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/attach/mq4.gif Robby DSS Bressert Colored with alert v1.1.mq4 (4.0 KB, 59 views) http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/attach/mq4.gif HMA_Colorb.mq4 (3.2 KB, 53 views) http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/attach/mq4.gif DailyWoodPivot.mq4 (4.7 KB, 35 views)
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  • #96
  • Edited 4:51am Dec 6, 2010 4:35am | Edited 4:51am
5 min EURGBP signal short,
demo...

edit:good
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  • #97
  • Edited 6:56am Dec 6, 2010 4:54am | Edited 6:56am
similar on xagusd
(demo)

This where I want to sharpen some skills.
market timing........
This trade may just drift sideways all the way into US open, 1 1/2 hours...
And then reverse up as happens very often at US open...

edit: That's what happened, reversed up just before US open...
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  • #98
  • Dec 6, 2010 5:23am Dec 6, 2010 5:23am
Hi Jiva, what settings are you using on the MA_Strength indicator?
  • #99
  • Dec 6, 2010 5:47am Dec 6, 2010 5:47am
Quoting Rille
Hi Jiva, what settings are you using on the MA_Strength indicator?
ma_strength 10,1,10
  • #100
  • Dec 6, 2010 8:15am Dec 6, 2010 8:15am
Quoting jiva34
What time frame are you watching?
• All posted charts are 15m. Seems to be the right one for this set up.

• My original hull indi download was set for 21. I put 3 charts (e/u 15m) side by side, 13, 21 & 34, (figured I stick with fib #'s too) and the 13 & 21 show reversals much sooner than the 34. What is your take on this, or am I overthinking the whole thing. (Extra lines on charts are 5 ema & 10 ema. My apologies, forgot to remove before taking shots)

• How can the dss be used now?

Screenshot order for hull variations is chronological. 13, 21, 34
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