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  • #6,961
  • Edited 6:47am Nov 21, 2010 6:20am | Edited 6:47am
Petar wrote:
Good chanel,good retrace point 75 fibo and very clear pattern Gartley and also ABCD..

Juhanimi:
These are from the past.
  • #6,962
  • Nov 21, 2010 6:29am Nov 21, 2010 6:29am
Quoting juhanimi
Good chanel,good retrace point 75 fibo and very clear pattern Gartley and also ABCD..

These are from the past.
I am sorry I did not understand what you wanted to say...Say that again please in plain english and what it has to do with VSA? Thank you.
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  • #6,963
  • Nov 21, 2010 6:34am Nov 21, 2010 6:34am
That bold text is from Petar`s post.
He said that he don`t use anything from the past.
  • #6,964
  • Edited 7:25am Nov 21, 2010 7:12am | Edited 7:25am
Quoting Intel
Hi Petar,

I dont want to get involved in a pissing contest but I wanted to point a few things out.

Fibs, Gartley and ABCD methods ALL rely completely on what happened in the past!...
I see you didnt undestand what i wrote...Man, Volume is indicator like others,VSA is tehniques ike many others,isnt holy grail or something like that...You didnt undestand what i wanted to say...You cant work Volume on daily or something like that,you can work, but that is casino becouse we have few things..

Look if you work intraday that is good becouse fresh volume setup is good signal when we loose power for buy or sell but just for that day.Intraday setup is most accuraty becouse if you wait 3,4 days accoriding Volume setup,that setup was in big past and mean nothing for current situation that is why i said there is no sense to work anything on large frames.I cant agree large frames is easier to work,that traders speak becouse psyhologicly for them is eaisier to work but i think just intraday trading is for seriuse trading,all others is more casino than trading...

All questions you answered is from your view,but everyone can watch diferent things.You think on that way becouse you work according one book and its normal to think on that way...
I must repeat again,past isnt guaranty for future...VSA inst language,that is tehnique like others with rules..
If you think VSA is language and you can read everything and predict you should be milioner...

I posted Fibs,Gartley and ABCD to see that EURUSD can go down also according that view,i dont work on that i just gave you example.As i said working on larger frames is for me bigger risk than intraday.THe more you are waiting the chance for loosing is bigger...That was my point....

Cheers

Petar
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,965
  • Nov 21, 2010 7:17am Nov 21, 2010 7:17am
Quoting juhanimi
That bold text is from Petar`s post.
He said that he don`t use anything from the past.
Juhanimi,

You didnt understud,

I dont work according daily,daily can help me just to see intraday better but no to open trade according daily frame...I work intraday becouse that is for me only good...

Cheers

Petar
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,966
  • Nov 21, 2010 7:44am Nov 21, 2010 7:44am
Quoting Petar_Serbia
I see you didnt undestand what i wrote...Man, Volume is indicator like others,VSA is tehniques ike many others,isnt holy grail or something like that...You didnt undestand what i wanted to say...You cant work Volume on daily or something like that,you can work, but that is casino becouse we have few things..

Look if you work intraday that is good becouse fresh volume setup is good signal when we loose power for buy or sell but just for that day.Intraday setup is most accuraty becouse if you wait 3,4 days accoriding Volume setup,that setup was...
VSA and Wyckoff analysis were BOTH discovered and perfected on the Daily and Monthly charts.

It is clear that you are not well versed in VSA principles or you wouldn't have said half of what you did in the last couple of posts. Until you are well versed in VSA you will never 'get it'.

BTW the channels/S&R you are so fond of using to predict your trades, guess where they originate from.................the past. And you use them to make good trades!!!!!
  • #6,967
  • Nov 21, 2010 7:46am Nov 21, 2010 7:46am
Quoting Petar_Serbia
I see you didnt undestand what i wrote...Man, Volume is indicator like others,VSA is tehniques ike many others,isnt holy grail or something like that...You didnt undestand what i wanted to say...You cant work Volume on daily or something like that,you can work, but that is casino becouse we have few things..

Look if you work intraday that is good becouse fresh volume setup is good signal when we loose power for buy or sell but just for that day.Intraday setup is most accuraty becouse if you wait 3,4 days accoriding Volume setup,that setup was...
I will explain simplier why i know daily trading or trading on larger frames is totaly loosing time,same like when you post view for next week,month,year..Matematicly that is totaly absurd becouse we have 3 big Session on Forex,when you post chart for 3,4 days or for next week that mean you will know how will market ses open and close and how much will be liquid every DAY(LOL) !! Much sense has if you work intraday and wait to see reaction of for exmaple London ses and according that put trade,that was my point becouse i see many guys here post on FF post daily frames,H4 even montly wich is totaly absurd for me...Remember every day is story for yourself..You can understand that like book and days mean pages.You must read page by page to finish book...THat is just my logical view..I love to to create daily chart but i dont trade longer frames,that is can help me sometimes when i trade intra setups..That is all..

Cheers

Petar
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,968
  • Nov 21, 2010 7:48am Nov 21, 2010 7:48am
Quoting Intel
VSA and Wyckoff analysis were BOTH discovered and perfected on the Daily and Monthly charts.

It is clear that you are not well versed in VSA principles or you wouldn't have said half of what you did in the last couple of posts. Until you are well versed in VSA you will never 'get it'.

BTW the channels/S&R you are so fond of using to predict your trades, guess where they originate from.................the past. And you use them to make good trades!!!!!
I see you dont undestand what is point...Look i usee trendlines of course and chanel but do you know how ? I use just in current reaction of the day,that is important,i draw trendline accorind past but trade just if i see reaction on for Example London ses on that chanel or trendline that is big diference...Read my post above to see what is my point..

Cheers

Petar
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,969
  • Nov 21, 2010 8:01am Nov 21, 2010 8:01am
Quoting Petar_Serbia
Juhanimi,

You didnt understud,

I dont work according daily,daily can help me just to see intraday better but no to open trade according daily frame...I work intraday becouse that is for me only good...

Cheers

Petar
You can trade VSA in one minute charts or daily or monthly, so timeframe has nothing to do with that you are using background to make trades.
You can trade Fibs, Gartley, ABCD, Channels in one minute charts or daily or monthly, so timeframe has nothing to do with that you are using background to make trades.
  • #6,970
  • Nov 21, 2010 8:07am Nov 21, 2010 8:07am
Quoting juhanimi
You can trade VSA in one minute charts or daily or monthly, so timeframe has nothing to do with that you are using background to make trades.
You can trade Fibs, Gartley, ABCD, Channels in one minute charts or daily or monthly, so timeframe has nothing to do with that you are using background to make trades.
You also didnt get point,I didnt said frame i said how long you hold position and also i said that for guys wich post analisy for next 3,4 days,week,month...
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,971
  • Nov 21, 2010 8:12am Nov 21, 2010 8:12am
So, are you saying that you don`t use background when you are taking trades?
  • #6,972
  • Nov 21, 2010 8:14am Nov 21, 2010 8:14am
Quoting juhanimi
So, are you saying that you don`t use background when you are taking trades?
lol man,nevemind i wrote on post abobe whan i wainted to say if you undestand that than you will know...

Cheers

Petar
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,973
  • Nov 21, 2010 8:16am Nov 21, 2010 8:16am
Simple yes or no is good enough.
  • #6,974
  • Nov 21, 2010 8:27am Nov 21, 2010 8:27am
Quoting Petar_Serbia
...I love to to create daily chart but i dont trade longer frames,that is can help me sometimes when i trade intra setups..That is all..

Cheers

Petar

Malcolmb is doing same thing: he is looking on weekly and daily chart and trade on M10 and M15...Malcolmb said many times that he is trading from point A to Point B ...within session...So far I did not know that he enter trade that last several weeks or months even days....


For your personal information and educational purpose : Trading is business run by professionals based on supply and demand.Nothing more and nothing less. VSA helps trader to recognize supply and demand levels based on professional activities and price action.

Bunch of lines (channel(s)) that you draw on chart doesn't determine price action and it sometimes coincide with supply/demand levels same like fib, PP garthley...MA...etc. If these tools work for you go ahead...Your trading style has nothing in common with VSA which is core of this thread and its followers. You point out sometimes climactic volume and that is all...You don't understand VSA and you dare to comment...

What I said was most polite I could say....
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  • #6,975
  • Nov 21, 2010 8:53am Nov 21, 2010 8:53am
Come on guys! We have fists, why to spend so many words to argue .

But seriously, Malcolm and Petar are almost forex gods. You should just understand that they are representing different religions.
  • #6,976
  • Nov 21, 2010 9:11am Nov 21, 2010 9:11am
Quoting Petar_Serbia
Malc i cant agree with you and i have good reason...You said what happened 2 days ago will show where we go next week,for me abolutly no becouse,every day is story for yourself,and thing you said is based on past,remember past isnt signal for future. We cant know where we can go becouse both side has sense i will post my chart i posted 1 week ago where i said we will test 1.3400 and maybe lower..

Look what we have on daily >

Good chanel,good retrace point 75 fibo and very clear pattern Gartley and also ABCD..

This also has big sense for future...

It is crystal clear that you have no clue what you talking about!!

Firstly you hide time frame on your charts...What is time frame on this chart?

Secondly, as per your chart you use information from year ago (November 2009 then March and May 2010) to trade today and until reach your market target it is unknown how long it will take...a few days, week, two weeks? All of this is contradictory what you said in your posts...

Talk to yourself first before you post something.
The Market pays you to be disciplined
  • #6,977
  • Nov 21, 2010 9:18am Nov 21, 2010 9:18am
Quoting 1pipperhour
Come on guys! We have fists, why to spend so many words to argue .

But seriously, Malcolm and Petar are almost forex gods. You should just understand that they are representing different religions.
Everyone has different vision about God.
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  • #6,978
  • Nov 21, 2010 9:25am Nov 21, 2010 9:25am
Quoting mima
It is crystal clear that you have no clue what you talking about!!

Firstly you hide time frame on your charts...What is time frame on this chart?

Secondly, as per your chart you use information from year ago (November 2009 then March and May 2010) to trade today and until reach your market target it is unknown how long it will take...a few days, week, two weeks? All of this is contradictory what you said in your posts...

Talk to yourself first before you post something.
Very negative posts..Read careffuly about forum posts...All i said is my thoughts and i have right to do that..I realy dont know why you post negative about my opinion,that is totaly kidish and totaly negative for this thread..I trade many years with huge succes and i just post positive becouse that can help to someone...I trade M15 or M30 frames and hide becouse i dont need that just deconcetre me when i trading...

Try to be more positive it will be good for you man...
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,979
  • Nov 21, 2010 9:27am Nov 21, 2010 9:27am
Quoting 1pipperhour
Come on guys! We have fists, why to spend so many words to argue .

But seriously, Malcolm and Petar are almost forex gods. You should just understand that they are representing different religions.
totaly agree my friend about two religions,you understud what i said
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #6,980
  • Nov 21, 2010 9:37am Nov 21, 2010 9:37am
Quoting 1pipperhour
But seriously, Malcolm and Petar are almost forex gods. You should just understand that they are representing different religions.

What does that make us (the non-apotheosized) then? Disciples, acolytes, psychics, even cherubim? Let's not splinter into different factions, accusing the others of heresy. I for one keep my agnostic vantage point, above the internecine fray.

Gruß

Wolfgang
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