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  • #2,641
  • Nov 18, 2010 11:29am Nov 18, 2010 11:29am
Quoting grandpost
Here are 3 templates....plz ignore all the fibs, sd, and analysis ....I don't want to erase them.....

You just want the mov. avg and the indicators on the first on mov. avg is simple 10 and 20

Second one setup indicators you don't need the envelpes

third one setup indicators and bollinger bands....

Then open up a 5 min chart and use period converter opt... it's a custom indicator so you can open a 10 min chart.....I can show you how and this is essential to get away from market noise for entry and exit and contrarian signals...

plz notice the...
OK it would be great. Thx G.
  • #2,642
  • Nov 18, 2010 11:31am Nov 18, 2010 11:31am
Please explain more.....you are using carolyn borodwyn approach....I am using a bryce gilmore approach.....which I have been manipulating and developing for a year now on my own.....

Ofcourse all points have relevance.....that's why there is synchronicity and harmonicity......you contradict yourself when you say that you can find the time using previous points..but doesn't always work......

That is because there is an exact footprint......you are measuring the avg. of the footprint .....or pulse.....I try and track the exact candles from which moves of certain waves begin or end and I try to look for the perfect picture.....I have gained lot's of knowledge in pursuing this and it makes better sense by the day....

ofcourse you use avg......or what I call that way.....I use osicilliations, elliott, and the time to narrow it down.....

Mind you there is so much I can say about this subject......but since I was not taught.....I am still learning.....







Quoting Sixer
grandpost,

you can do such time predictions by using of the last 2 and/or 3 turning points. But you have to consider the price patterns too:

http://yfrog.com/2rdeurusd901711g

Not all fibo relations can be used.

Sixer
  • #2,643
  • Nov 18, 2010 11:42am Nov 18, 2010 11:42am
Quoting grandpost
Please explain more.....you are using carolyn borodwyn approach....I am using a bryce gilmore approach.....which I have been manipulating and developing for a year now on my own.....

Ofcourse all points have relevance.....that's why there is synchronicity and harmonicity......you contradict yourself when you say that you can find the time using previous points..but doesn't always work......

That is because there is an exact footprint......you are measuring the avg. of the footprint .....or pulse.....I try and track the exact candles from which...
I understood - if u close all 1. period (abc - time line), then u are pointing 0 - same point as before and 1 on the end of all period, the las candle and all repeat (of course with EW position). Is it correct?
G.
  • #2,644
  • Nov 18, 2010 12:02pm Nov 18, 2010 12:02pm
grandpost,

i use the DT software of Robert Miner which allows these time predictions and all explanations i found in the manual of the software. Miner himself prepared a lot of tutorials - check his website for these: www.dynamictraders.com and search the web for his books also.
I didn`t have had a closer look of the works of Carolyn Borodwyn till now. I have read the Gilmore book some time ago but for information purposes only. The main idea of both is to use the factor "time" in their analyses which is done from a limited number of traders only.
Once again as stated already: You will find the correct turning point only if price, time and price pattern "coincide" - exactly the statement of W.D. Gann to this.

Sixer
  • #2,645
  • Nov 18, 2010 12:04pm Nov 18, 2010 12:04pm
GBPCAD...
Still long GBPCHF...
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  • #2,646
  • Nov 18, 2010 12:18pm Nov 18, 2010 12:18pm
Quoting Naish
I understood - if u close all 1. period (abc - time line), then u are pointing 0 - same point as before and 1 on the end of all period, the las candle and all repeat (of course with EW position). Is it correct?
G.
I think you are trying to follow.....which is good because I think I have important info for this forum....the reason I am explaining it so I can get you guys at that level...humbly....

If this forum pursues the Price pulse....the exact market turn can be defined unlike the majority who only take a piece of the trend.....You will only get a piece of the trend anyway even when you reach perfect....so you have to try and reach perfect.....

All our knowledges combined can create perfect price pulse.....Sometimes I am wrong so I will be able to get it from you guys but only when we are all experts.....

Now here is the ART and what I call MANIPULATING.....YOu will only be able to get to this step if you measured the PERFECT picture using the correct CANDLES

Shifting the same time measurement fib tool over to the current market turn.......I shifted the tool

I show 2 pictures.......which one will work and why is something I havn't made rules for yet but not have found anything written about it.....My hypothesis it has to do with the oscilliations being met or fib time price levels being met.....Rule have not been made yet............I believe this is what they are doing and that's why I want to share it with you guys maybe someone really would have enough concentration to understand my jibbirish.

If still following setup the previous charts post something about your effort and you will get the rest of a very genuine syncrohnized trading system....
  • #2,647
  • Nov 18, 2010 12:20pm Nov 18, 2010 12:20pm
here are shifts
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  • #2,648
  • Nov 18, 2010 12:40pm Nov 18, 2010 12:40pm
I have been through all that and I have the software......thank you.

I do not agree with your labeling of the mediumterm trend so hence the rest I dont agree with.....For the longterm trend the one I agree with is ABC up AND now ABC down and we are on C wave starting wave 3 down of C.

You can visit elliottwave.com and see the analysis there it's free week and I would recommend it for everyone I think the last day is today........do it you won't regret it......So none of this w and x waves...I am sorry I never label my charts so I can't show you




quote=Sixer;4183001]grandpost,

i use the DT software of Robert Miner which allows these time predictions and all explanations i found in the manual of the software. Miner himself prepared a lot of tutorials - check his website for these: www.dynamictraders.com and search the web for his books also.
I didn`t have had a closer look of the works of Carolyn Borodwyn till now. I have read the Gilmore book some time ago but for information purposes only. The main idea of both is to use the factor "time" in their analyses which is done from a limited number of traders only.
Once again as stated already: You will find the correct turning point only if price, time and price pattern "coincide" - exactly the statement of W.D. Gann to this.

Sixer[/quote]
  • #2,649
  • Nov 18, 2010 12:59pm Nov 18, 2010 12:59pm
Quoting grandpost
here are shifts

Hmmm, just logic is telling me something else at the moment, but I will follow your experience. Ok, u use both of them or just 1? The difference in between is huge. Is it not A=C (or B=C) in time line also? I read something about it but need to find it!

G.
  • #2,650
  • Nov 18, 2010 1:27pm Nov 18, 2010 1:27pm
grandpost,

why are you assuming that the elliott counts of the EWI guys are correct ? I doubt. Prechter (and Neely also) calling since months for a heavy correction of the indices. Nothing happened - all indices are rising and rising.
I have shown that the delta and the elliott counts give the same signals.

Sixer
  • #2,651
  • Nov 18, 2010 1:44pm Nov 18, 2010 1:44pm
I use the one in the pic below.....but then something is not right........the oscilliators on daily are still coming out of extremes sells.....while hourly are in extreme buy if you setup the oscilliators I showed you I will be able to show you that better or I can take pics.....So what appears to be w1-2 and w1-2 of extension can all be still the wave 2 and extension hasn't started.....why? because wave 2 usually equals wave 1 in time and because the overheated oscilliators in daily are still returning to zero.

I know it's the one I chose because as sixer said that's where the price target matches the time target and fullfills the pattern where euro usually in wave 2 retraces back to the 23.6 line.....

1st pic is shift I used.......
2nd pic is shifting the tool again to have w1 = w2 (then you will understand delay and weird price disturbance)

Quoting Naish
Hmmm, just logic is telling me something else at the moment, but I will follow your experience. Ok, u use both of them or just 1? The difference in between is huge. Is it not A=C (or B=C) in time line also? I read something about it but need to find it!

G.
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  • #2,652
  • Nov 18, 2010 2:01pm Nov 18, 2010 2:01pm
Actually this post started by telling you that their LOngterm trend forecast the one they have posted now and you can visit free last day today is CORRECT....but no one trades the longterm trend but banks.....

My time post was to show how they labeled b wave wrong in their shortterm trend.......

They are idiots when they put anyone accept the martins guy who does the forex...Actually i think they do it on purpose as a conspiracy.....if you read any of my longtime ago posts i scream conspiracy. I mean if i know they know......they play the general public but to gain some credibility some is right
I am not assuming but I am pointing you to the right one since I never Label other wise I wouldn't have mentioned them at all.....

Everything or when the majority is giving same signals expect the exact opposite.....

There is only one perfect turning point and It can be forecasted precisely when the market comes near it ALMOST ALL SITES are in conspiracy either because they are a broker or straight out sponsered by the fed....EWI are based in an army city....lol.....

this pic shows the perfect turning point can be measured and as you move down to 1 min you can get it exact......it is crazy.....if you think that way you will see it....



Quoting Sixer
grandpost,

why are you assuming that the elliott counts of the EWI guys are correct ? I doubt. Prechter (and Neely also) calling since months for a heavy correction of the indices. Nothing happened - all indices are rising and rising.
I have shown that the delta and the elliott counts give the same signals.

Sixer
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  • #2,653
  • Nov 18, 2010 2:45pm Nov 18, 2010 2:45pm
sorry, was without power - heavy rain!

Hi grandpost,

I will say, forget EWI count (or set your SL shorter !!!!) and take advice from Sixer.

Maybe with your theory of time was exact time to change direction, what do u mean? (daily chart)

G.
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  • #2,654
  • Nov 18, 2010 3:09pm Nov 18, 2010 3:09pm
Quoting Sixer
grandpost,

why are you assuming that the elliott counts of the EWI guys are correct ? I doubt. Prechter (and Neely also) calling since months for a heavy correction of the indices. Nothing happened - all indices are rising and rising.
I have shown that the delta and the elliott counts give the same signals.

Sixer
Hi Sixer,

"a" at 1.3741?

G.
  • #2,655
  • Nov 18, 2010 6:53pm Nov 18, 2010 6:53pm
EU- tried posting earlier but didn't go...

Looks like we test 1.3615 then up to 1.3730-50 For wav5 and end of c of A.

Then for B we test 1.3550-1.3520

Then for the Big C we go to 1.4181 and fill all the gaps (C will be extended because our A is only three and not five waves).

Only thing is our current LD for wav1 of wav5 of c of A looks like its a three wave and not a five wave-- maybe a 30sec tick count could reveal otherwise???
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  • #2,656
  • Edited 9:04pm Nov 18, 2010 8:43pm | Edited 9:04pm
Quoting Naish
Hi Sixer,

"a" at 1.3741?

G.
A @ 1.3763... B @ 1.3524 ...C around 1.4061 - 1.4091Max.. WHICH COLLECTIVELY should make wave#1...!!!!of Bigger WAVE#3 Of 5

We can all laugh at theses #s later on..
Markets are not Random, they are designed!
  • #2,657
  • Nov 18, 2010 10:45pm Nov 18, 2010 10:45pm
Raza,

you are to fast - let`s wait to get the confirmation that the 1st pattern since the low at 1.3447 is finished. The divergence of the indicator gives some advice, not more:

http://yfrog.com/mgeurusd601911g

Sixer
  • #2,658
  • Nov 18, 2010 11:21pm Nov 18, 2010 11:21pm
More Fibo Stuff:

http://www.askjeffwilde.com/HWC.pdf

Be patient while downloading - the size of the file is 4.8 MB

Sixer
  • #2,659
  • Nov 19, 2010 1:21am Nov 19, 2010 1:21am
Quoting Sixer
Raza,

you are to fast - let`s wait to get the confirmation that the 1st pattern since the low at 1.3447 is finished. The divergence of the indicator gives some advice, not more:

http://yfrog.com/mgeurusd601911g

Sixer
YES , I Know... We need confirmation..

There are many resistence to the UPSIDE.... biggest one is 1.3860
Markets are not Random, they are designed!
  • #2,660
  • Nov 19, 2010 1:42am Nov 19, 2010 1:42am
Raza,

the 1st resistance is at the R1 pivot (1.3697) - if the pattern is not complete there, watch for the R2 (1.3750).

Sixer
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