Wisdom and his Power Level Thread

wisdom just posted this in his own thread:

"So lastly: if ure not happy, skip this thread- move on and be succesful in anything you do
So many tradrs i see are wasting their time complaining and acting childish. Some have even compared me to some names and compared other traders that they are me and are using different names here in ff as me-- cmon peeps----get a life !!!!
maybe i should buy them an icecream to cool them down.
Too bad their focus is not on trading. Good luck regardless.
Now back to my journal and no more BS posts in here."


but you have not once answered the fact that you signed into your own room with my user name and said "i have been with wisdom for a while now and i am making good money from the power levels and doing really well"

the more you continue to ignore this, the less credible your thread is becoming.

the fact you did that and i saw it with my own eyes and have proof that other users in the room saw it also makes everybody aware that you are more then capable of having multiple user names on here.

also you said today that you have never endorsed your own service and said "come and join me join me" is quite funny.......why are you in the commercial section of the site if you dont want to promote your service?

why do you post all your results of the winners, if you dont want to promote your site?

and lastly why hasnt ANYBODY ELSE from your room apart from fxdanny (your best mate.....and admin on your own site) fxranger and fxmechanic (both also from australia) come out and defended your service in your own thread?

il ask you once again........where is markt, peetee, valykrie, alter and all the other users who are supposed to be making good profits in your room.....why arent they coming out and defending your service? if they are so happy with it?

but even more strange is that you havent once mentioned your thread or anythign that is going on in FF to any of the users in yoru chatroom..........no discussion of it at all??

if you were genuine and making money you would be angry about this and there would be atleast a mention of it in your own chatroom?

seem strange your keeping so quiet about this with your own regular users.

we both know why that is......not many of them actually exisit.

have a good day mate.

also fxmechanic said this:

"Even that WEDAI dude stopped posting his levels as they didnt work. I had joined his skype room and it was totally bogus haha"

but the thing is wedaei posts his levels for free doesnt he?

he posts them for free on here BEFORE they happen with a clear stop loss and TAKE PROFIT target.

wiz doesnt do that does he?

wiz only posts on here AFTER things have happened. also he goes in 10% (averaged position) and would let a trade run up to 40 pips against him and even ADD MORE once it was 20-25 pips against him!!

i have taken both of these guys levels and neitehr are 100% accurate, they are both more like around the 80% mark.......which is still bloody good.

so what would you rather do?

pay a guy for his power levels that happen once every 2 weeks. and are only really ever given on e/u. and are not 95-98% accurate.

or come on here and read a guys thread for free and take his levels for free, with a much smaller stop loss and a much bigger profit target?

hmmmm

tough one that.



by the way i heard wedaie was in wisdoms free room and worked out how to do the levels himself and thats why you and all your alia's are upset wiz

good luck bro.

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Originally Posted by ehrek http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Hey Wisdom,

$5000 in escrow, lets see the statements.

Calling ya out, for the 2nd time... Here is your chance to redeem yourself, and make me look like a complete fool.. Plus pocket $5000 of my dime!!


it seems very odd someone who claims to have made a lot of money and posts things like "2400 this week and no losses" should shy away form this.

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You will also notice that once people started calling him out , cockdom stopped posting dollar amounts and just ROE when announcing his bogus results. Check it out for yourself.

what is diffrent between ( before Action and After ) ??


lets do some thing to know what i am talk about.

open the blank chart in 30min or so and then CLOSE your EYE

just plot 11 horzintal line in the chart.

then let the PRICE take all its move in the chart

and AFTER ACTION
just come and say here i bought 15+ , there i sold 6 pips and on other level i sold and averag it after 40 pips and close it BE
you will see all levels work and no loss.

but are they work BEFORE ACTION like what you want ???
are you CONFIDENT with them ??
do you know what you will do if level fake??

so did you understand Why ( Big Boss ) disapear behind his level and come back AFTER ACTION and say i won 800$ and i averaged to BE and and and.

other thing he open his thread and stay with thread maybe more than 9 months ALL his post WON WON WON

and once open Skype its start his post there ((Won and some Loss )) in begining ,
then he stop say i will buy/sell and keep all story after Act.

AS much as he tell before action you will see ( won and loss )

but if he come after ofcource u will heard from him only ( WON and 2400$ and 7000$ for this week and $$$$ )

this is what wisdom said today in his thread:

Originally Posted by ehrek http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Hey Wisdom,

$5000 in escrow, lets see the statements.

Calling ya out, for the 2nd time... Here is your chance to redeem yourself, and make me look like a complete fool.. Plus pocket $5000 of my dime!!

wisdom: mate-- just to let u know---read the thread and chk the progress of my Equity
1% roe is 10k for me

are you offering me chump change??
get real dude !!

ask me the 3rd time and place a few zeros after your offer and i might even teach u how to trade wisdomfx style

Not being arrogant but piss off and lurk another thread ! __________________


red2010: hmmmmm

so your not being arrogant but you have told the guy to "piss off" (which is pretty rude and arrogant) when he has just asked you to prove what you say with facts?

he hasnt once swore at you or been rude to you, yet it looks like you have banned yet another person questioning you from your thread?

see the theme here yet guys?....

he doesnt want you to teach him anythign wiz he just wants proof of what you make, since your offering a service, he has every right to ask questions and ask for proof regarding the service and its validity.

slipping away?

losing control?

keep those teeth clean brother

i also thought this post was worth mentioning, it is from "alter" who i think is the only genuine paying member left in wisdoms room.

alter said: "
I was in the room long enought and I would that these results are not achievable for most of the people in the room. People in the room like Danny or Ranger makes money but they use their own system and analysis.
Most of the time in the room I was slightly up which was just enought to pay sub fee , maybe I was just lucky I dont know. But last 2 months was very bad and Im down over 8% before sub. I will analise my results and will inform u here why I think there are so huge differences in published and real (I mean my) results."

here is a bit of what wisdom replied to the above:

"alter--correct me--but ITS NOT THEIR OWN SYSTME AND ANALYSIS
its all the trades at and around the power levels and with ONLY the info i share

there are NO RANDOM trades i have seen them taking
correct??"


red2010: now after being in the room for four months i can tell you all right now this is complete bullshit. the amount of times i saw danny, fxranger and fxmechanic come into the room AFTER we had losers and say "oh i didnt take that trade guys i didnt like the PA" and then go on to talk about some news event that they had read about which kept them out.......was staggering!

it happened all the time, i said it before in this thread, people lost 10% last month and danny came into wisdoms thread and said he was up 3.5% LOL

so to say they arent using their own anlaysis or there own system is a complete fucking joke.


alter is the only one left in the room isnt he wiz? he is the only paying member and he has come out to say that he still isnt making money.

NOBODY else has come out to defend you from the room. (apart from the same 3 people danny, ranger and fxmechanic) we have proved 2 of those 3 people are actually you.

i think its time to give up the game mate, you did well to con people out of $250 for so long, be happy with that cash......problem is you lost it all on trading didnt you?

every penny you made on subscriptions, you lost in the world of forex, didnt you?

once alter goes you have NO MORE paying members. not a single person left in the room.

tick tock.

The little bitch banned me from his thread.

Apparently my $5000 offer to show his statements and back his claims isn't enough.

Well Done red2010

that guy really make me lough when he talk about his 1% ( 10 k )

the problome he dosnot have even DEMO Money.

he can't show any thing proof that he did what he said ( after fact )

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Originally Posted by ehrek http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Hey Wisdom,

$5000 in escrow, lets see the statements.

Calling ya out, for the 2nd time... Here is your chance to redeem yourself, and make me look like a complete fool.. Plus pocket $5000 of my dime!!


mate-- just to let u know---read the thread and chk the progress of my Equity
1% roe is 10k for me

are you offering me chump change??
get real dude !!

ask me the 3rd time and place a few zeros after your offer and i might even teach u how to trade wisdomfx style

Not being arrogant but piss off and lurk another thread !

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ok cockdom , so 5K no big deal for you ? Then how come you are running a service with 2-3 subscribers x $250 = which is not even 1K a month? admit it , you are playing with demo money or a mini account and you lose everyday of your life.


This just goes to show that cockdom doesn't have the big account he claims to have. If i had proclaimed to be a successful trader and my account was upto 500K like cockdom claims to have , heck even to 50K , i would have pasted my account statements to all the walls of FF. There is nothing to feel shy about a real statement, goes to show that he has something to hide and none of his statements are real, all crap.

you are as complete a screwhole as i have ever seen.

lol bravestar

thing is i have seen a guy produce a fake statement before, very recently, and he had a whole trading room conned. even a very experienced trader started to believe him becuase he talked the talk.

he was truly found out when he started a blog and began to post his live trades and they were shit.

see the theme here?

once a fraudster or a crap trader starts to take live trades infront of others...regularly.....he gets found out.

its a 50/50 game, so the odds are in the favour of a con man for sure. many crap traders (including me lol) have had runs of 10 winning trades, but consistancy is the key in this game.

but i agree with you totally, if a guy has $500,000 or $1 million (which wisdom claims to have) then why would alter's $250 per month matter to him?

there are no other real subscribers left in his room. its just alter. if there were more they would have come out by now.

the most strange thing of all is that since all this talk in his thread and on here has been going on, he has not mentioned it ONCE in his own chatroom.....no discussion of any of the goings on in here or there?!......dont you find that wierd?

if genuine i would be like "guys, people are questioning me on FF, you have all made really good money with me and you know the service is good......will you please post on FF and back me up.......as what they are saying on FF is lies"

we know danny (his best mate and admin) has defended him.......along with fx ranger & fxmechanic (both of who we think is wiz just using a diff user name).......but where is everyone else???

just doesnt add up.

You have proved a very solid point.

Also Wiz can easily link his account to Myfxbook to prove us wrong. In the past he was using Gomarkets, so there is no excuse of why he can not prove his success by sharing his Stats.

I know that Wisdom doesn't have to prove himself to anyone as he has clearly proved that this strategy did in fact work for a longtime. But, it has came to a point where his validity is needed as his reputation is on the line. And if he is a honest business man that cares, he will prove us otherwise without using fake alias and altered Screenshots of his account.

Honestly, all of this is shame because I did learn two things from following Wiz back in beginning of 2010 in the free skype room.

1.) Be patient and Wait for the Trade
2.) Accuracy is Possible

These two concepts has really turned me into the trader that I am now and even if Wisdom turns out to be a mirage, I still benefited from this illusion.

o god he doesnt stop with his crap does he?

here is god's lastest installment:

Originally Posted by wisdomfx http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
2 main trades as swings yesterday:

[19:32] wisdomfx _: i really dont want to miss this move down
[19:32] wisdomfx _: so i have shorted 1% here at 1.3811
[21:42] wisdomfx _: i would like to atleats be in 1-2% extar
[23:29] wisdomfx _: u betre be banking atleast 3-5% to day if it reaches 1.3700 area by itslef
[23:31] wisdomfx _: brk of 735/738--and it will fall RAPID
[23:35] wisdomfx _: ok i am short from 1.3811 and 1.3795
[23:35] wisdomfx _: 2.5%
[23:36] wisdomfx _: and scalp in btw liek crazy
exitec...

just to shut some traders up, this trade was taken on wednesday evening as per time stamps and the result was posted here in FF too.
THis is just one of my trades .
Now the fools will say--oh is that demo?? lol
I advise the idiots to focus on their trading and concentarte on making $ from fx. I know for a fact that many of the naysayers are struggling as they have no clue on fxtrading and jealousy will get you nowhere.




I mentioned earlier that i dont care who joins me> how come noone has a reply to my prev comment on this post?
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=2485

quoting:
"I have never actively promoted my service anywhere else on any other forums or websites etc
those who have found my service and info valuable have joined me on a happy journey"


the answer is that i cant care less who joins.
Subscription is for those wo want to make $$ in fx. Lets see you do it otherwise -lol. Like i said, if you can be consistent in fx by yourself--good luck , otherwise ull be staying red http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/s.../yim/happy.gif

staements from other traders are not going to make you a better trader--i hope u do know that.
ALL the info and trdes have been posted in my journal for over 1.5-2 yrs now.
READ the journal from teh start where i used to screenshot many trades as well. No need to prove a point anymore.
NOTHING comes close to my trading style. And u all know it http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/s.../yim/happy.gif
POWER LEVELS are best way i have ever known how to trade fx with.
Show me another system which is more then 95% accurate ?
everyoone goes quite or will now come up with some other BS post -lol..

done with this nonsense. G luck to u all and keep on moaning. In fact open a chat grp so u can vent your anger out at each other. While watch my roe and $ daily http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/s.../yim/happy.gif


RED2010: Spot on this time wisdom, i am struggling with my trading, im a newbie as i mentioned many times already.....which is why i joined you in the first place you idiot.

you also said this:

"I mentioned earlier that i dont care who joins me> how come noone has a reply to my prev comment on this post?"

ok two major problems with this.

1) NOBODY CAN POST IN YOUR FUCKING THREAD YOU BANNED THEM ALL, LOL!

2)you dont care who joins you?......mate......YOU DONT CARE ABOUT WHO IS FUCKIN ALREADY WITH YOU.....thats the problem, dont you get it yet?

i dont give a fuck how much ROE you make i care about how ROE i lost and DIDNT make with you.

"Show me another system which is more then 95% accurate ?"

wow another bare faced lie.......shit man when you gona give it up?

what have i and all the other people who posted in this thread going to achieve?....we are all unhappy customers from your service...

and in the last 4 months YOUR POWER LEVELS HAVE BEEN NOWHERE NEAR 95% ACCURATE

i dont need to lie, if i made money from them 95% of the time id have posted in your thread how good they were and how awesome you are.

finally your erm "account statements" lol fuckin hell wiz, did you do them on microsoft paint?

they look pathetic (bit like the creator?)

fuc....kinnar.....hell.........shahhhh tup

ok wisdom and his alias's really do take the piss.

i know alter is one of the only paying subscribers left in the room and the poor guy has been losing the last two months, and he was hardly up the 2 months before that either.

here is a reply from fxranger (wisdoms alias or best mate.....whatever......who cares)

"Alter no offence, but since when do i use my own system? I have even called out earlier when im taking the OLD plevels even no new ones are posted. Yes i analyse the market, and use it to my advantage eg. using ATR, pivots, breakouts (if PL next to a recent low/high .. obviously not to trade it) etc.., so that i can go in a higher % or not trade at all .. but this is just simple analysis any trader should be doing regardless.

The only thing i have said and where i dont follow anyone is on SWING trades ... its just not me and my style .. yes i take scalps when swing trades are called out, in that direction, but HARDLY EVER do i take swing trades.

Alter we have had this conversation a million times now, i dont know how to explain any further my simple approach to trading wiz's information.

Ciao."

red2010: so you dont use your own system fxranger?........but you use atr, pivots and break outs? lol that is your own system then you idiot.

when are you going to understand the room is called "wisdoms power levels" and last month there was like 2 new power levels.......and all the rest were swing trades that lost time and time again.

so you didnt take the swings, well done, but if the guy your paying $250 a month for comes in the room for 30 mins (if that) per day and tells you "swing long 2% g/u at 1.xxxx price.........what the fcuk do you think his subscribers are going to do?.....wait all month for 2 power levels? (that arent 95% accurate) or take the swings with wisdom?......who they pay and trust?

worked it out yet?

basically what your saying to alter in your last few lines is....."i have explained to you millions of times" that you shouldnt listen to everything wiz does and listen to me?

becuase if your more consistant than wiz (who isnt very consistant at all) then why doesnt everyone just follow what you do?.....your making more of a consistant % than wiz.....in the last 4 months for sure anyway.

why dont you start a room ranger?

also this line fxranger stood out for me:

"For some of us yes its a high end payment - but the great thing is, it keeps these bickering housewives away from a serious trading room"

a serious trading room that the host "might" show up for 20-30 mins per day?......at no given time?

a serious trading room that even you have admitted you dont follow all the trades in?

a serious trading room that has its owner come in, with made up user names, claiming to make money?

fxranger i smell something funny coming from your mouth.......ask wiz to help you with that bad breath.

give it a hike knob -haha
Sounding like a gramophone day in day out.
Is your trading going that bad. I realise you admit that you are a newbie. Maybe i can give some advise: Forextrading is not for everyone <--
You should try something else. Maybe trade raw gold or put some under your pillow
Or just get laid and that may calm you down. All your ranting aint going to do anything.
Be good at heart or you may get hurt climbing the wrong mountain. dp
Wis has alreday told you that if anyone doesnt benefit from his trading style and advise then you can simply leave. I for one am doing exceptionally well with him (as much time i can spend in room)
You need to chill out and maybe learn how to trade. There are many newbie sites and if you need help, ill direct you towards them.
Funny how newbies start in forex, lose, get frustrated and start anger mode in different forums and threads. haha
Focus dude, focus

red2010

looked at your profile:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=257039

, first thread you post on FF is in search for following traders ?

Go learn the most common stuff used in fx and try understand yourself
Learn and focus. like i said

aha so u want to say
let BOSS did his big lie perfectly around other trader ..

as soon as U not pay and your Boss feed you PL free u will not lesiten to other and you will try to show ( by talking only ) that your Boss offer good service.

your boss has Big Lie and we have to tell other as what we seen. even if we leave we have a wright to tell pepole that Service not worth 249$.

First , go check out your own posts. All you have been doing on FF is licking your master wisdom's ass.

anal connection to red2010?

no seriously, go read your own posts. its called ass licking. and you do it pretty well. good job.

I was in the free skype room and followed his trades. Many of the levels worked well but not near 98% of the time. The problem with his system is his money management. He advises averaging in to a losing trade after -20 pips. And with TP of 10-12 pips, it means that total risk/reward is 5-1 or 6-1.

It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that you have to win 85-90% just to break even on your trades. This is a losing proposition.

Also, I have seen him give out levels. And we have traded the levels and they have failed. Then later wiz came on to say he didn't trade them for such-and-such a reason. That was BS. I am friends with Pullice and he said that happened all the time in the paid room. As a level was approaching, he'd ask wiz if he was going to trade it. And of course, wiz was nowhere to be found. And if the level worked, he'd say that he took the trade.