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  • #2,461
  • Oct 27, 2010 9:32am Oct 27, 2010 9:32am
Our short opened on Moon-Saturn trine reached a TP level of 1.386 and we are searching for another opportunity to continue trading in same manner.

http://astroelite.com/aefrm/pics/mt4...usd-101027.gif

 

  1. First aspect Moon-90-Jupiter occurred when price made a down spike. Ignore that because we place only sell orders and only on up spikes.
  2. We see a local top on Moon-Neptune trine. Sell at this point.
  3. Set take profit to old support level and wait for Moon-Venus trine. If a local minimum happens on that or any other of next three aspects, close a short position if TP didn't trigger before

  • #2,462
  • Oct 27, 2010 1:04pm Oct 27, 2010 1:04pm
Quoting AstroElite
Could you put an example of how to use AEMT4?
I receive questions like this very often. There are no ready recipes of how to interpret geo-cosmic events and apply those to trading. As I said before it cannot be a mechanical process 'if->then' but extremely creative not to say a spiritual work.
Look at the relation between eurusd and venus declination.
Now, also, for fun, look at a weekly chart and Jupiter declination.
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  • #2,463
  • Oct 27, 2010 2:29pm Oct 27, 2010 2:29pm
I have a tool to see all those on one graph. Yes, some points coincide with reversals but if you calculate how many are out of target a prediction accuracy will be much lower than 50%.
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  • #2,464
  • Oct 30, 2010 8:36am Oct 30, 2010 8:36am
A couple of aspects hit on the 31st of October 2010, now we all know thats Sunday, and the markets just open on Sunday night. It is amazing how often falls start on a Sunday, inspite of no news being out.

What is it, why do the falls start then, I am sorry to say that I don't know, but still I look for answers which may be a little obscure. One aspect of market analysis that is much sneered at is using the planets to give direction, it is rumored that Ganns reference to natural law was to do with this so I had a look at what is going on in the skys above our heads at the moment and applied my research and analysis to it.

What is happening at the moment is venus is between us and the sun, this happens every so often, so I decided to look at what this particular aspect had done in the past. I went back to 2003 and I found 10 dates where the venus sun aspect was zero, every single date produced a turn, some big some small, in the 10 examples I looked at each date marked a turn. I also found some other analysis that taked about the venus sun bio hazard effect, some researcher found that every single out break of some flu matched a venus sun conjunction with inferior conjunctions being the most significant.

Now it could be just pure chance, but it also happens to coinside with a daily cycle point. Which I also looked at in terms of reliability. What I found was that the turn date projections give about a 60-70% of a turn within one calender day of the predicted date.

Also if the AUD is at a top then the next move up should not exceed the high, if indeed it does turn down and break the last low it makes me wonder will the stock market also take a dive too, if it does it could be a very substantial one too.

Not looking like a great time to be long.


Hope you all have a great week.


Mike Haran

P.S a credit to Burmasoft for supplying me the indicators for this research, his indicators are quite amazing if you understand how to use them, more than worth a look.
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  • #2,465
  • Oct 30, 2010 8:44am Oct 30, 2010 8:44am
Quoting Mike Haran
A couple of aspects hit on the 31st of October 2010, now we all know thats Sunday, and the markets just open on Sunday night. It is amazing how often falls start on a Sunday, inspite of no news being out.

What is it, why do the falls start then, I am sorry to say that I don't know, but still I look for answers which may be a little obscure. One aspect of market analysis that is much sneered at is using the planets to give direction, it is rumored that Ganns reference to natural law was to do with this so I had a look at what is going on in the...
Hi, Mike. Great post. I just checked SE Aspectarian. Venus and Sun conjunction occured at 0110 GMT on 29/10, not 31/10, which is last Friday morning. I am bearish on Aussie too, I could only 'hope' that yesterday afternoon's up turn is not what this aspect has in store for us.
  • #2,466
  • Oct 30, 2010 9:06am Oct 30, 2010 9:06am
I must have my offset wrong, you are indeed correct. I also hope its not a move up. I have a 72 week cycle from a previous high so lets see what Monday brings, I myself think that the easing from the feds has been over priced in, hence what ever they do, its not going to be as much as was anticipated. Buy the rumour sell the fact might well apply to this.


Good luck and thanks for the heads up.


Mike Haran
  • #2,467
  • Oct 30, 2010 9:19am Oct 30, 2010 9:19am
Hey, this thread looks pretty interesting, ever considered trying to make an EA from it? Would be alot easier to backtest it.
  • #2,468
  • Oct 30, 2010 10:42am Oct 30, 2010 10:42am
Oshawa is right, a Sun-Venus conjunction occurred 2 days before your hypothetical turning point, 2010-10-29 1:10 GMT.

As to 2003-2010 AUD/USD data and the above planetary combination I don't see any any correlation that might be used for trading. This event happens approximately once a year and in case it is relevant for the price it should correlate with price cycle of similar length.

Most likely AUD/USD follows EUR/USD cycle and in case USD become stronger, all correspondent pairs, including AUD/USD, will move into that direction.
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  • #2,469
  • Oct 30, 2010 2:33pm Oct 30, 2010 2:33pm
If you can use astro harmonics to calculate reversal points in time then it should be possible to use other aspect of time relationship and price relationship.

Suppose I wanted to use an astro position where do I enter in price, here is the current chart of the ABCD pattern in the AUDUSD, so if I had an aspect on the 30th October and the markets were open, this is how I would define my entry position.

Now, as this seems to be a strong position for the market to stop with many fib clusters in this area, if it does not it will tell me two things, one the market is stronger than I expect. Also my chance of a reversal are limited. Using time proportions of the previous swings I also have a point it time where I expect the reversal to occur. So I would look for aspects to support my chances of a reversal. Does any one else approach it in this way?

Kind regards


Mike Haran
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  • #2,470
  • Oct 31, 2010 9:10am Oct 31, 2010 9:10am
hi Mike,

yes i have a minor line somehow marked on the chart for 30 Oct, but i dont remeber from which point of the swing i plotted it. Anyway last friday close is weak @0.98298. That is as much i know.

Will not be biased but let the chart speak for itself, and trade with it i guess.

BTW anyone has hint how to convert time to price? my experiment still bear no result. Many thanks
  • #2,471
  • Nov 1, 2010 5:35am Nov 1, 2010 5:35am
Quoting Mike Haran
If you can use astro harmonics to calculate reversal points in time then it should be possible to use other aspect of time relationship and price relationship.

Suppose I wanted to use an astro position where do I enter in price, here is the current chart of the ABCD pattern in the AUDUSD, so if I had an aspect on the 30th October and the markets were open, this is how I would define my entry position.

Now, as this seems to be a strong position for the market to stop with many fib clusters in this area, if it does not it will tell me two things,...
Not absolutely my friend.
For demonstration you have chosen the tool rather connected with gold.
As any currency connected with natural resources, would be more true to consider points of a turn with gold and auxiliary signal GBP.


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  • #2,472
  • Nov 2, 2010 11:15am Nov 2, 2010 11:15am
Quoting Benf
I think you both are wrong and E/U will go further up.
That's my quote of Oct 24 and I was right. You should speak not about trend REVERSAL but rather about the trend END. In this case you are right and uptrend changed to sideways market.
Now we have two directions to follow - up and down and both probabilities are equal so far IMHO.
Ben
  • #2,473
  • Nov 3, 2010 11:46am Nov 3, 2010 11:46am
Quoting AstroElite
Are you taking into account the local broker time (which should be the same as the local computer time)
No, in general they are not equal. For instance my local PC time is USA Eastern time that is GMT-5 in winter and GMT-4 in summer. When I trade with Alpari a broker time is GMT+1 but when I switch to MBT broker time is the same as my PC local (GMT-4/5).

or you are using your own tz table for your indi? From where do you read the local tz?

No, AEMT4 doesn't use a proprietary TZ table....
Hello AE,

I was waiting for a daylight time to end and it is confirmed now when daylight saving time is ended and we are back in the GMT+1 zone - the plotting is correct now. So it looks like a software bug - kind of it doesn't take in account a daylight saving time. The broker I focused on is "AlpariUK-Demo - Alpari (UK) Ltd." and that broker is correctly responding to my local time in DS and non-DS period.

Perhaps it would be better to use an "extern" variable in MQ4 so everybody can adjust tz as apropriate (like: Indi_plot_Time => use local computer time => true/false => if false then use_broker_time ...)?
So the default would be "the broker time" if I would not use "true" for a local time. In that case I would have a choice to select
  • #2,474
  • Nov 3, 2010 4:37pm Nov 3, 2010 4:37pm
Quoting AstroElite
I have a tool to see all those on one graph. Yes, some points coincide with reversals but if you calculate how many are out of target a prediction accuracy will be much lower than 50%.

Umm i really like your post. You are running a bussiness but still dont try to sell us "fantasys".

Good work, Objective views. You are my hero...
Greetings, BeLikewater
  • #2,475
  • Nov 4, 2010 5:55am Nov 4, 2010 5:55am
That's my quote of Oct 24 and I was right.
Yes, Ben, you were right. We should speak about uptrend disturbance and possible reversal in the middle of October but not to anticipate for the latter. Therefore, we have to trade like on ranging market at that time without preferring bearish of bullish side.

Also I'd like to note that nothing forecast stands for multiple tests regardless of how that been made: technically, fundamentally or astrologically. The market nature is too obscure and complicated to be predicted with (simple) tools human has in even in XXI century.

In particular your website contains EUR/USD prediction made in May 2010 by Forex Magazine.
http://forexbarometer.com/vbpub/pics...fxmagazine.gif
Compare that to current price and judge.
  • #2,476
  • Edited 10:44am Nov 4, 2010 10:22am | Edited 10:44am
when daylight saving time is ended and we are back in the GMT+1 zone - the plotting is correct now.
I see what you mean - a server time GMT offset doesn't depend on DST and there is an error when local PC time DST is in effect.

kind of it doesn't take in account a daylight saving time.
Vice versa - the indicator uses DST when calculates a broker time offset but it shouldn't.

Perhaps it would be better to use an "extern" variable in MQ4
It's much simpler and easier for the users still have automatic TZ detection but local DST must be ignored when calculating a broker GMT offset since the latter doesn't use it.

I guess I have already fixed that. Finally will check it next Sunday when we (USA) get back to standard time.
  • #2,477
  • Edited 3:15pm Nov 4, 2010 1:25pm | Edited 3:15pm
Quoting AlenBB
I don't believe this can work. astronomy + trading
I believe you need 10 messages to get a member status. Only 9 remain.
Ben
  • #2,478
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:32pm Nov 4, 2010 1:32pm
Benf : What does your reply has anything to do with that new account's reply?
  • #2,479
  • Nov 5, 2010 12:42pm Nov 5, 2010 12:42pm
There were many researches about Moon phases and market behavior correlation and they proved such correlation does not exist. May be...
Let everyone interested in the issue look at the graph attached and decide whether price change mostly occur near the new/full Moon days or not.
http://astroelite.com/aefrm/pics/aef...-full-moon.gif
Tomorrow is a New Moon day and today's price decline heralds that.
  • #2,480
  • Nov 7, 2010 6:10am Nov 7, 2010 6:10am
Quoting AstroElite
There were many researches about Moon phases and market behavior correlation and they proved such correlation does not exist. May be...
Let everyone interested in the issue look at the graph attached and decide whether price change mostly occur near the new/full Moon days or not.
http://astroelite.com/aefrm/pics/aef...-full-moon.gif
Tomorrow is a New Moon day and today's price decline heralds that.
I don't know why people would think that.
The moon has a cycle, and the cycle repeats.
You just need to know how to count them.
Delta is one way of doing so.
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