Strats Stress Free Trading is not Credible

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It is NOT his method. J16 started with Price Action. This guy uses candles instead of Bars. This guys adds some EMA and Simple MA's. That's it. Price action at Support and Resistance is nothing new.

Your trading record means that DAILY TRADING FROM SUPPORT TO RESISTANCE AND VICE VERSA works not because Strat. Jeez. Daily trading like this was started by J16 a long time ago

fxamerica,

What you say about price action is true, he didn't invent it. However it is a fact that I have learned a lot from his thread, from Strat and other contributors. All I have received so far is a lot of good knowledge for free but maybe I could have learned it some where else as well.

Golfer27, thanks for your concern and I hope you can find a way to trade profitably that suits your lifestyle as I have. I am far from my ultimate goal but I feel I can get there with or without someones help.


Poncho.

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Poncho, the more you post, the more unfortunately you show your ignorance. This is not a personal attack, and i'm glad if you've found and incorporated the rehashed aspects on the thread, which have enabled you to trade better.That ultimately, as traders, is our aim. I'm not here to start a war,i'm simply pointing out this cnut couldn't trade his way out of a paper bag, plagiarism with a capital P looms large. And answer me this, The pricks been advocating daily trading, now he has students trading 5 min time frames successfully? The Cnut admitted he couldn't trade them!!
Also- bearing in mind a trader has to be in the mkt to make profits- while your waiting for all t-frames to allign, how many trades are you taking??
It's complete bollo@@. As a trader, you have to be able to trade periods of cosolidation, there are only 3 mkt conditions. But keep on fella!!



Golfer27, thanks for your concern and I hope you can find a way to trade profitably that suits your lifestyle as I have. I am far from my ultimate goal but I feel I can get there with or without someones help.


I couldn't give a flying fcuk about your circumstances, i'm profitable, mostly thanks to muppets like you. I wish you the best of luck.

Good luck to all
Golfer

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Poncho, the more you post, the more unfortunately you show your ignorance. This is not a personal attack, and i'm glad if you've found and incorporated the rehashed aspects on the thread, which have enabled you to trade better.That ultimately, as traders, is our aim. I'm not here to start a war...

Golfer, I'm not here to start a war either, I just want learn. You are correct, I take very few trades and I would certainly like to take more but I have really learned to be patient lately. I have been around this game awhile now and I don't want to lose any more than I already have and I feel I have turned the corner.

One ignorant muppet over and out , good day to you too Sir.

Ok, i guess this thread did what i wanted it to.
Strats thread has gone from a 5 star in the normal threads, to a 2 star in the Under Evaluation threads.
Thank you to Twee, in whose correspondence proved himself to be one of the good guys, willing to listen to members concerns, and act on them if necessary. I believe that this site is one of the best available, fraudsters will be shut down, it just takes a bit of time.
Thank you to all the posters on the thread, both for and against, that's what makes a market.
Some of you i've corresponded with in pm's, some of you i haven't.
I'm gonna send some posters a pm, in the near future, just as a way of thanks, even if i didn't agree with your views!
My aim was simply to point out that A> this guys a fraud.
B> you dont need to pay a penny to learn.
So goodluck to everyone, i wish you proftable trading !!
We busted the twat, postings on his thread are now insignificant, let the muppets go to his private thread!

Thank you.

you dont need to pay a penny to learn.

Exactly so - But with respect I think you are taking this too seriously.

Is Strat a fraud? - hell I don't know or care but I don't think so. As I don't intend giving him any money it actually doesn't matter much to me anyway.

Is he just plagiarising J16? - yes probly but thats what most of us do, isn't it?. Trade S/R is what Strat teaches in his own style and I applaud him for that.

I contribute to his thread bcos I like the way I think he trades. It fits my personality and psychology. Yeah its just a re-hash of J16, which is a re-hash of Pringle, but so what.

Yep he has made some contradictory statements lately, but again I don't care much.

ATEOTD he's only teaching ppl how to trade. Whether he's successful or not(teaching that is) only his pupils can know. Whether he's a successful trader or not is immaterial - Lots of teachers can't do what they teach.

Here is the bottom line people....... it's fine to follow along with strat as long as it's free..... you may or may not actually learn something.

if you like some occasional abuse hey hang in there.... However rudeness does not equate to superiority, it generally means insecurity and or is used as a psychological tactic.

BUT when the day comes when he starts asking for money you had better do some deep background checking.... Get verifiable background info with REAL addresses and locations, get a phone number or two that actually work, Have the NFA check him out........ There is just too much at risk to blindly trust people with your hard earned money.

If you can't actually go meet the guy and have a sit down with him and his staff I would be VERY cautious.

Why do I say this?...... Because I learned my lesson from Jacko.......
I was in the first group .... My lesson only cost me 500 bucks since I refused his trading services.

I sent him the 500 bucks, he did live up to his promises as far as unlimited access to his blog, receiving SMS trade executions and unlimited contact via email......... Anyway I got off cheap regarding my education of being scammed.

So take care and beware everyone.

Well i thought my last post was my last post, but i couldn't resist.
Thank you Stewrigh and tradestar, you both make valid points, some of which i agree with (tradestar), some of which i don't(stewrigh). I don't agree i have some personal agenda, aka taking it too seriously. This cnut is lining up to fleece people. Now his in the bargain basement, notice how postings have dropped off dramatically?? Where have all the disciples gone, oh yeah i forgot, to the paying site.
Ok, for the doubters, heres a suggestion, to be done on DEMO only!!
Next week place 3 trades,one after the other, on any currency, go short or long, doesn't matter. If youre on MT4 then place your stoploss and take profit levels, once you've placed the trade. 3 trades should take about 2-3 mins to input
Then go back and look at the trade reference numbers.They will probably fall within a range of 50-100 apart.Thats because your not the only trader placing trades, the platform allocates a reference number to the trade, as it recieves them.
Now go look at the yen trade on page 352 of his thread. On a daily chart, his trade reference numbers only increase by 10=15. So his broker only accepted 10 or 15 trades in a DAY??? This happens time and time again!!!
Food for thought!
I'm bored of trying to prove this guys a scammer, make your own minds up, good luck to all, i'm not posting anymore, i've made my point, if you can't see the wood from the trees, then fcuk off.

Cheers

...ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!!!!!!!

Dunno what Strat did or said to upset you so badly Golfer27 but you are grasping at straws in your attempt to discredit his thread.

Sure, it is a pity that he has gone commercial and I am not advocating that anyone necessarily join up and pay for his services, but you would be a complete and utter MUG to not READ AND UNDERSTAND the excellent material available FREE on his FF thread.

And, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he has EVER claimed there is anything original in his method of PASR? In fact, I believe he attributed his method to the mysterious Dr JOE who grew frustrated at Strat's initial psychological barrier to seeing the obvious...? ALL successful traders are successful PRECISELY BECAUSE they follow PASR. There is no other way to win! Some are smart and do so knowingly - other are merely lucky and follow PASR unknowingly. If you are not on the right side of PASR you WILL lose. Period.

All STRAT is trying to teach is how to recognise PASR.

Hope you have your own "light-bulb" moment soon. Good luck.

I followed his thread a year ago for a while but then it became obvious this was just an exercise to round up enough students to sign up to private subscriptions on another forum. When you look back it is obvious a guy who never posted a live trade could never be wrong


QUITE SIMPLY
Any expert who can trade so well would not need to charge people he is claiming to help $99 subscription per month. If you are happy to pay $99 a month for advice then more your a fool and thats why you are a loser in forex.

I've been following strats from 2008. I've been losing in the beginning because I don't really understand his method. But after a year of losing, I starting to win cause of all the exercises that Strat provided and made me think a lot on the chart and his teaching of PASR. I became a consistent earner forex trader because of his teaching.
My winning trade is 9 out of 10 trades. I hardly hit Stop Loss.
You have to be patience with Strat but his PASR is very profitable. Learn it as basic and you can trade any timeframe with this basic.

Strat is not a scammer. If he is a scammer, he will try to be nice to you and take money from you.
I've been trading for 3 years now. I've joined many forums and paid a lot for signal services but in the end, Strat is still the best.

Forgive this old man for his behaviour.Although I was banned from his thread ,I'm not angry with him.There is nothing wrong with a man who has decided that trading is not for him to open an educational site,for some addditional income,except his pension.I've told him once trading is not for every one and now I'm really glad to see that he has taken my words for granted.

Does anyone remember,or care to, about baba g on the "strat" thread,cause i have a few things to say.But only if anyone cares that is.

I've read strats thread and did not think for one minute he was scamming. I'm listening to what you have to say if you want to speak ...

My last word to Strat on his thread...its enough for me i hope it answers your questions too.

If you feel I did wrong by you why didn't you show me the post number.

In that way we could of put the baby to bed once and for all.

I only ever had the best of intentions to help as I had been helped,my system was always different from yours but we agreed on the price action principle which is universal in its application, maybe in these differences you saw a cross purpose on my part but it was not the case and that may have led to a misunderstanding.

That being said what's done is done and no matter the outcome of this little conclusion the manner in which you treated me is wanting an apology and to my mind raises questions of character as misunderstands in life do happen but it is the way in which we deal with them that define us.

I once said there is no holy grail in trading and as you amended your opening statement I too will claim this right,There is a holy grail in trading and I have it but the paradox is I can never ever share it.

The Forex Factory has served its purpose for me and it has nothing more to give all that was wanting was this exchange which even though it ends inconclusive that in itself serves for me as just that.

Your quest continues and I wish you all well but for me I move off to the future after 6 long years of work.

And whatever trading may have taken from you Robbie let it not take your humanity which is priceless.

All i have to say about all these training/teaching forex thread.

Those who cannot do , teach!.

So you are saying the great teachers.... Jesus, Socrates, Ghandi could not do ?

They were not self proclaimed teachers. They all fought for something and in that process , people made them their teachers.

Teaching was never their profession.

I wasn't going to bother to answer your original comment because it is wrong on so many levels.

There are many many very good teachers that teach others to do a better job of something than they can do themselves. It actually doesn't matter.

Music teachers, professional sports coaches, yada, yada, think about it.

I not saying you all should agree with me. But i m not wrong on any level.

Yes there are good teachers, i never said there a bad teachers.

All i m saying is why would any profitable trader teach others. if they did , everyone would flock to them and we'd all be profitable traders by now.

That's obviously a reaction seeking statement, and opens up the question as to what you are looking for at FF?

There are many good trader's on FF that have put in a huge amount of time and effort into threads that are a source for people trying to learn to become profitable, and these threads have saved years of time for many traders in that process.

Any person that is going to be successful as a student has to have a teacher that can answer his/her two most important questions.

What do you know and how do you know it?

If a student fails with those two questions, they fail to learn to trade the system and they fail to be profitable.

If the student succeeds with those two questions, they succeed in learning the system and they trade profitably.

If the student is then trading a learned system correctly and profitably, it's safe to assume the teacher trades the same and is profitable too.

It doesn't take a lot of effort to see that some one not coming to those same conclusions is too lazy to learn and just here to troll.