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Quoting metalaxe
Hi Astroelite, The indicator for Metatrader does it do natal aspects as well? Also, is it possible to display more future and past aspects? Thanks.

  1. To plot transit to natal aspects for EUR/USD we need:

    1. Some natal chart, but nobody knows what is a natal chart for EUR/USD. We might consider some of major economical events as birth charts for every currency but there is a big question what is a birth chart for the pair?
    2. A system of managing those charts (event dates) is needed in program that plots transit-natal aspects. It's impossible to build a complicated program in frames of MQL and also I have such a program by name AstroElite Financial and don't see any reason to duplicate that work. AEMT4 indicator is a free alternative that should help people interested in the subject to start working with geo-cosmic cycles but it doesn't pretend to be a powerful environment for financial astrologer.

  2. Adding more data into AEMT4 indicator will make the program big and slow and again, this limit does not exist in AstroElite Financial that covers period of 4000 BC to 4000 AD i.e. well beyond financial markets existence.

Quoting AstroElite
It's a matter of taste but no problem - you want it, you get it. The updated indicator posted today.
Thank you Astroelite. I always had to draw these manually, now its effects are clearly displayed on the chart.

Helio is not a matter of taste. If you know the "Natural Law" and "Law of vibration" that Gann spoke about, and see how Gann used Helio for his trading, then you know it is essential for the big picture.
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Quoting egkid
Have i said reversal? I think i didn't
I said we going to 1.33-1.35 zone
No you didnt say reversal but was going to close 'something' in November. Close what? I assume e/u long beacuse market was bullish at that time.

You said 1.33-35 few days ago but in sep 25 you had another opinion and I meant that. Look at your message and the e/u chart at that time. How in September you might mean that target of 1.35 if market price was 1.35.
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Ben
Quoting Benf
No you didnt say reversal but was going to close 'something' in November. Close what? I assume e/u long beacuse market was bullish at that time.

You said 1.33-35 few days ago but in sep 25 you had another opinion and I meant that. Look at your message and the e/u chart at that time. How in September you might mean that target of 1.35 if market price was 1.35.
Go Back to my post and read it, I have no time and effort to waste.
Thank you Astroelite. I always had to draw these manually, now its effects are clearly displayed on the chart.
You are welcome. May be some day I will add the points of stationary planets, i.e. when they become retrograde and direct again.

Helio is not a matter of taste. If you know the "Natural Law" and "Law of vibration" that Gann spoke about, and see how Gann used Helio for his trading, then you know it is essential for the big picture.
Retrogradation is a very important thing in both general and financial astrology is a pure geo-centric phenomenon. When you switch to helio system you lose those. I see, in particular, you plot Venus Rx line in your indicator and the current reversal happened exactly in that point (see the pictures attached).

Of course, I have read almost all Gann's papers but I also read a book of A.Elder. Ben already posted the info of how Gann made money for living (Market gurus/Dead gurus). IMO nobody knows exactly how to use all that stuff. Most likely those rules are non-existing and astro-trading cannot be a mechanical process.
For example, a June 7, 2010 EUR/USD bottom occurred exactly on Jupiter-Uranus conjunction but it doesn't mean that next time when same or similar aspect happens, the market reaction will be similar.
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Quoting egkid
Go Back to my post and read it, I have no time and effort to waste.
Ditto.
Ben
Also, is it possible to display more future and past aspects?
The current indicator version displays aspects for the whole 2010 year. To speed up the program (MQL is a rather slow language) it scrolls DB from bar number WindowFirstVisibleBar(leftmost chart bar) to 0 (latest, rightmost bar). If you started MT4 with TF shorter chart like M5-H1 and then scroll left a WindowFirstVisibleBar does not recalculate and you don't see past aspects. To refresh the chart switch period to some other and then back. The inticator will be reinitialized and WindowFirstVisibleBar updated.

I'm aware about this nuisance but MQL is not the best language for creating good and high performing software.
Quoting AstroElite
Also, is it possible to display more future and past aspects?
The current indicator version displays aspects for the whole 2010 year. To speed up the program (MQL is a rather slow language) it scrolls DB from bar number WindowFirstVisibleBar(leftmost chart bar) to...

Would it be possible to put an indicator in a forum? I can not connect to the web astroelite.... thanks
Quoting AstroElite
[list][*]To plot transit to natal aspects for EUR/USD we need:[list][*]Some natal chart, but nobody knows what is a natal chart for...
Hi, AstroElite

I had not visited this thread for a couple of weeks, and now found a pleasant surprise that you are posting here. Welcome and thanks for your hardwork!
Quoting AstroElite
Thank you Astroelite. I always had to draw these manually, now its effects are clearly displayed on the chart.
You are welcome. May be some day I will add the points of stationary planets, i.e. when they become retrograde and direct again.

Helio is not a matter of taste. If you know the "Natural Law" and "Law of vibration" that Gann spoke about, and see how Gann used Helio for his trading, then you know it is essential for the big picture.
Retrogradation is a very important...
Yes, but I use it in combination with the Bumasoft Natural Cycles indicator, which is geocentric. So the combination is perfect.

Retrogration is the prime example that Gann's "Natural Law" works like he said it would.
He studied Tesla. Tesla was a genious with Electricity and Magnetism. Gann said that natural law worked on the same principles as a telephone or loudspeaker. So, if you know how those work, you have a clue about the natural law.
Kind of holding a magnet next to a compass, move it one way and then the other way and see what the needle does.

But it doesn't cause market movements, people cause market movements.
So, nothing is 100% sure thing and there are no holy grails.

I have written an EA based on some planetary aspects, some that are pretty reliable and I can backtest 80% accuracy, which means 80% winning trades. Some aspects a bit more than that.
But it also depends on your trading strategy and money management.
AstroElite -- Hi, I just read your early comment about a potential reversal timezone in mid-October. I have that too, which price-wise is on 15 October. The thing is the markets are not really dropping, both euro and aussie are making their way back up. I guess now the interesting part is to watch if the 15 October high will be taken out, or if they are trying to make a double top or lower high.... This is frustrating, to say the least.

MyWavez -- since when you became a riddle man? Would you mind being a bit clearer or less riddle-like when you try to say something about Gann?

I know you use EW, but Gann had no EW at that time and even though he mentioned higher high or lower low etc. for confirmation, that doesn't explain the potential possibility/reality/truth that he really made the prediction right, or as in Elder's book, that all about his marketing was only bonkers. The way I understand law of vibrations is that it depicts certain aspects coinciding and also various geometric angles that might bring a reversal point. But by doing this, it doesn't make it any better than simply using the logic of supply/demand to look at charts. It only became clear afterwards and didn't seem to really be 'leading' because there can be so many angles or aspects combination, which one would be the turning point one would only become clear after it has turned.

Since you seem so very comfortable with using astro, would you mind sharing a bit more or giving some clearer hints? Thanks.
Quoting Oshawa
MyWavez -- since when you became a riddle man? Would you mind being a bit clearer or less riddle-like when you try to say something about Gann?
Well, the job for forum comedian was already taken, so I took riddle man.

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I know you use EW, but Gann had no EW at that time and even though he mentioned higher high or lower low etc. for confirmation, that doesn't explain the potential possibility/reality/truth that he really made the prediction right, or as in Elder's book, that all about his marketing was only bonkers.

Gann used some form of wave counting. Not the same as Elliott and not the same as Elliott Wave according to Frost and Prechter. But he did use it as he did many other forms of technical analysis.

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The way I understand law of vibrations is that it depicts certain aspects coinciding and also various geometric angles that might bring a reversal point. But by doing this, it doesn't make it any better than simply using the logic of supply/demand to look at charts. It only became clear afterwards and didn't seem to really be 'leading' because there can be so many angles or aspects combination, which one would be the turning point one would only become clear after it has turned.
Since you seem so very comfortable with using astro, would you mind...

The way I understand the Law of Vibration is that it is a law based upon the magnetic workings of the planets and cutting or strengthening certain magnetic angles giving a stronger or weaker magnetic field. These angles are depicted in the Gann symbol.
Gann was also a 33rd degree mason. The masons had advanced knowledge of magnetism for their time.

Anyway, these magnetic fields influence the sun and the energy it emits to earth. It also caused ionization of the earth atmosphere and somehow this affects people. Just like full moon does. However, it doesn't effect us consciously through our 5 senses.
Prices are drawn towards the aspect and at the time of aspect Gann reversed the trade, used a stoploss at the high and let the profits run, which is clear in "How to make a profit in commodities".
But Gann used many other techniques as well, but that is his theory in a nutshell and my understanding of it.
Quoting AstroElite
I am in the GMT+2 (CEST) tz and my broker data is the same but aspects are plotted in the GMT+1 (CET) tz
The indicator calculates a broker time zone as a difference between PC local time and MT4 current time. May be it's a bug in the program or something else. What is a name of your broker?

Can you point me to that Updates area please?
As you might see I'm an FF junior member and all my posts are under manual moderation. I'm afraid posting a link to external resource may result in FF infraction...
Timezone:
The time of my broker is correct (GMT+2 = GMT+1+DS). Are you taking into account the local broker time (which should be the same as the local computer time, if you are wise and you select the right broker) or you are using your own tz table for your indi? From where do you read the local tz?

Updates:
Oh, sorry, I forgot I was on the FF pages - found it
Quoting Oshawa
AstroElite -- Hi, I just read your early comment about a potential reversal timezone in mid-October. I have that too, which price-wise is on 15 October. The thing is the markets are not really dropping, both euro and aussie are making their way back up. I guess now the interesting part is to watch if the 15 October high will be taken out, or if they are trying to make a double top or lower high.... This is frustrating, to say the least.
Take a look on USD/CHF. And actually EUR/USD is reversing too.

Please could you put a explanation of why you choosed the October 15th?

Thx
Greetings, BeLikewater
Are you taking into account the local broker time (which should be the same as the local computer time)
No, in general they are not equal. For instance my local PC time is USA Eastern time that is GMT-5 in winter and GMT-4 in summer. When I trade with Alpari a broker time is GMT+1 but when I switch to MBT broker time is the same as my PC local (GMT-4/5).

or you are using your own tz table for your indi? From where do you read the local tz?

No, AEMT4 doesn't use a proprietary TZ table. Broker (trading server) time may be read with TimeCurrent() and local time with TimeLocal() MQL function. Also Windows API time functions accessible via DLL calls may be used for the purpose.

You didn't say your broker name. If you provide it I could verify if the indicator works correct with that.
Quoting Ilovepippin
Wow, wrong again.
First off, I am astound that you managed to distinguish the front from the animals back side. As a reminder or cheat, in case you get confused, the back side of the animal is the same side as you are talking from.

Methane is a gas that was inhaled by the Oracle of Delphi which caused a state of delusion and trance. After inhalation the Oracle started to "prophesize" and Kings and wise men from all over the world came over to listen to it.

So, if your animal released methane over western Europe, it would have made people more...
This morning, my herd of cows delivered no milk. This has caused mass tension amongst fellow Europeans, and news has spread rapidly. People's faith in European cows has drastically diminished. No more tea, coffee. Heck, no more cornflakes for breakfast!

No wonder today's Euro is declining.
Quoting BeLikeWater
Take a look on USD/CHF. And actually EUR/USD is reversing too.

Please could you put a explanation of why you choosed the October 15th?

Thx
Geometrically, on SQ9, 1.4156 is 180 degree up from 1.1876, and on SQ9 time, starting with 7/June/2010 in the middle, 45 degree is on 17 Oct and 30 degree on 14 Oct. Give it +/-1 or 2 days either side, plus a perfect fit of price target, so I would say price and time square at 1.1456 on 15 Oct. I also use a few other geometric calculations to confirm if time and price in various dimensions square. My calculation is geometric based, not based on astros. But of course, planetary rotational frequency and time span is geometric in nature. The world is geometric in its nature and essence.

In addition, if one uses Euro's Aug. low time 24 Aug. as the starting point of SQ9 time, 15 Oct. is at 0 degree.
Could you put an example of how to use AEMT4?
I receive questions like this very often. There are no ready recipes of how to interpret geo-cosmic events and apply those to trading. As I said before it cannot be a mechanical process 'if->then' but extremely creative not to say a spiritual work.

I'd like to recommend first find a dominating trend and a next turning point by using slow cycles and then enter a market in a trend direction by using short-time indications, Moon aspects, for example. All judgments must be made with bearing in mind common sense and technical/fundamental analysis.

For instance, I've found out that EUR/USD cycle for 2009-2010 is close to Mars declination cycle and deciphered a next turning point in the middle of October. Also I considered technical 61.8% Fibo on D1 chart and strikes in France fundamentally.

Until price action didn't show the uptrend continuation, I go short on up spikes, especially when they confirmed with Moon aspects and close short positions when correction is likely (price hit old support level) or on TP of 70-100 pips.

http://astroelite.com/aefrm/pics/mt4...d-mar-decl.gif

As you might see on the graph there were at least six such opportunities during last ten days.
http://astroelite.com/aefrm/pics/mt4...-moon-sell.gif

Three hours ago I have closed a short opened on Moon-Saturn trine (2010.10.26 08:00 GMT H1 bar) because 1.386 is an old support level.
is it possible to display more future and past aspects?

Yes, to some extent this is possible. The updated (101026) version plots aspect on some future bars up to two days.

http://astroelite.com/aefrm/pics/mt4...rs-aspects.gif

As of now, October 26, 14:05 EDT you may already see Moon-90-Jupiter, Moon-120-Neptune and Moon-90-Uranus aspects that will take place tomorrow, October 27, 2010.
If they will coincide with tops of upward correction, I'll go short at that time.
So does this astro stuff work for any of you guys to make a professional trading career? JamesHong was quite accurate though. I'm amused. If it works for you, congratulations.

Cheers.
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