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  • #8,221
  • Oct 13, 2010 12:04am Oct 13, 2010 12:04am
Quoting Shamus
Yes your post on the 8th about weakness during London on the 8th was helpful today... the 12th. LOL

I'll make a free prediction as well. At some point in the future a pair will go down. I'll be back (if it appears I was right even though I wasn't) to gloat. LOL
shamus this post just goes to show you have yet to understand the full concept of vsa., i guess for a novice trader with 1 years vsa experience under their belt I can forgive that ... you have yet to understand background and how distribution is seen.

those that trade do .. those that cannot trade market SMART

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  • #8,222
  • Oct 13, 2010 12:35am Oct 13, 2010 12:35am
Quoting malcolmb14
shamus this post just goes to show you have yet to understand the full concept of vsa., i guess for a novice trader with 1 years vsa experience under their belt I can forgive that ... you have yet to understand background and how distribution is seen.

those that trade do .. those that cannot trade market SMART
No... It goes to show that you are full of it and I will point it out every time I see it.
As for me being a novice... anyone can look back and see you are not being truthful so I won't bother to point out yet again how silly your statements are.
The trend always ends.
  • #8,223
  • Oct 13, 2010 9:25pm Oct 13, 2010 9:25pm
Someone asked me to post up a M30 SMART chart of USD (Globex).
Here it is.

We have multiple signs of weakness. The volume on this move down is not excessive (healthy move) at all and the volume is much weaker on up bars too (no interest in higher prices just yet). The only thing going for longs atm (if you are crazy enough to be in one) is that the volume in general is lower than average (DZ Caution). It will be very interesting to see what happens as the trading day progresses.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...10-13_2206.png

Good luck and see you in the chat.
The trend always ends.
  • #8,224
  • Oct 14, 2010 3:20am Oct 14, 2010 3:20am
Quoting malcolmb14
shamus this post just goes to show you have yet to understand the full concept of vsa., i guess for a novice trader with 1 years vsa experience under their belt I can forgive that ... you have yet to understand background and how distribution is seen.

those that trade do .. those that cannot trade market SMART

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So Malcomb, what put this burr under your saddle?

Shamus stealing your thunder?
  • #8,225
  • Edited 6:21am Oct 14, 2010 6:08am | Edited 6:21am
Quoting chief1oar
So Malcomb, what put this burr under your saddle?
Basic studies of human psychology suggest that people that act as he does have an overwhelming need for approval (hence the ridiculous amount of posts), an abnormal fear that the attention/approval will be directed towards someone else (hence attacking anyone that seemingly knows as much or more than they do) or... as some would suggest... a really small penis. LOL

But seriously I jest... whatever the reason I wish him well.
The trend always ends.
  • #8,226
  • Oct 14, 2010 7:21am Oct 14, 2010 7:21am
On the holiday
I looked at 3 forex company and the futures (real vol)
all 4 gave diff candle formations vs vol
The futures was quite good
the 3 forex I saw no patters at all

it was a holiday, that is why I only did day week and month

futures works /// forex does not
It cannot when you see 3 diff patterns
and none were closs to the real ie. Futures

I use Vol all the time but not in Forex

cheers

TEB
  • #8,227
  • Oct 14, 2010 8:48am Oct 14, 2010 8:48am
I use volume from IBFX forex ... and works great.

Best,
T


Quoting TEB63
On the holiday
I looked at 3 forex company and the futures (real vol)
all 4 gave diff candle formations vs vol
The futures was quite good
the 3 forex I saw no patters at all

it was a holiday, that is why I only did day week and month

futures works /// forex does not
It cannot when you see 3 diff patterns
and none were closs to the real ie. Futures

I use Vol all the time but not in Forex

cheers

TEB
  • #8,228
  • Oct 23, 2010 11:06am Oct 23, 2010 11:06am
Quoting malcolmb14
shamus this post just goes to show you have yet to understand the full concept of vsa., i guess for a novice trader with 1 years vsa experience under their belt I can forgive that ... you have yet to understand background and how distribution is seen.

those that trade do .. those that cannot trade market SMART

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Malcomb,
I read your posts in this thread and there is no doubt that you are helping other people to learn VSA trading, so even when I don't know you I want to let you know that I appreciate all the work you did. There is value in each chart you post. I hope you continue posting charts and ignore non-sense "smooth" attacks from this thread creator or his shields.
  • #8,229
  • Oct 24, 2010 2:22pm Oct 24, 2010 2:22pm
The chat room is down due to an issue with ircforex.
The ircforex people didn't renew their domain in time... it forwards to a landing page atm.

If it is not available by tonight I am going to setup a temporary chat on one of my servers so it may be a few days before the new chat is up and running

I hope you all had a fantastic weekend.
The trend always ends.
  • #8,230
  • Edited 11:43pm Oct 24, 2010 10:14pm | Edited 11:43pm
Quoting rac
Malcomb,
I read your posts in this thread and there is no doubt that you are helping other people to learn VSA trading, so even when I don't know you I want to let you know that I appreciate all the work you did. There is value in each chart you post. I hope you continue posting charts and ignore non-sense "smooth" attacks from this thread creator or his shields.
Call me naive, old fashioned or just out of the loop but, I have always felt the purpose of this forum is to provide a means for people to share their knowledge and information as a conduit to 'HELP' others learn to survive and prosper in the markets.

I, myself have been the beneficiary of the ideas and knowledge shared by Malcomb, Shamus, Islander, Hidden Gap and many many others. That knowledge has helped me in so many ways, and continues to benefit me everyday.

However, I fail to see how attacking others, disrespect and Flaming serves anyone. Rather, it only denegrates the integrity of what was one of the best sites on the internet.

I have all the respect in the world for Malcomb's trading ability and knowledge, as I have all the respect in the world for Shamus's trading ability and knowledge. The same can be said for many others on this forum. I see no reason to continually criticize and attack someone else because they have chosen a path which may be somewhat different from ours. After all, who annoints one person God and not another.

Seems like it just reflects our society. No damned wonder the world is at war and we are all scrambling trying to find a way to feed our families. And yet in spite of the fact that we have been given a truly great source of totally free information and a wealth of experience to draw from, we continue to take sides, call others stupid, wrong and heap insinuations on anyone we disagree with. It's no wonder there are so many reading and so few posting, who would want to risk being the target of disparaging remarks and hate filled posts when all they have done is share their viewpoint or ask a question?

Maybe it's just my age, but I have always felt there is value in everyone, and in their experience and knowledge. Even if I don't agree with everything someone has to share, there is still something there of value, that I can learn from. This has served me well for 60+ years, but seems to be something most people never consider as they prefer to continue spending their time making themselves 'right' or superior.

It is because of this, I have withdrawn from this site completely, except for the occasional email that peaks my curiosity and draws me back in to this ridiculous mess of personal attacks, over grown egos and childish behaviour which serves no one.

It's truly a shame, there is so much to learn from people here and so little time on this earth, why spend it in a pissing match?

Chief
  • #8,231
  • Oct 25, 2010 4:52am Oct 25, 2010 4:52am
The chat is back online. If you use the web chat just use the link from the thread as always (let me know if you have any issues)

If you are using pidgin or another dedicated irc client, simply change the server from irc.ircforex.com to irc.ircforex.org

Good luck trading and see you in the chat.
The trend always ends.
  • #8,232
  • Oct 25, 2010 6:59am Oct 25, 2010 6:59am
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  • #8,233
  • Oct 26, 2010 12:48pm Oct 26, 2010 12:48pm
Quoting chief1oar
Call me naive, old fashioned or just out of the loop but, I have always felt the purpose of this forum is to provide a means for people to share their knowledge and information as a conduit to 'HELP' others learn to survive and prosper in the markets.

I, myself have been the beneficiary of the ideas and knowledge shared by Malcomb, Shamus, Islander, Hidden Gap and many many others. That knowledge has helped me in so many ways, and continues to benefit me everyday.

However, I fail to see how attacking others,...
Very good post.
  • #8,234
  • Oct 31, 2010 1:12pm Oct 31, 2010 1:12pm
  •  jaboo
  • | Joined Dec 2009 | Status: Ray Comfort is....the banana man | 236 Posts
Hey Malcolm,

I posted this on the EUR/USD thread but i wanted to post it here so youd see it. Would realy like to know what you think.

Thanks


If the professional traders (Smart Money) are interested in this thing going up, how come the previous up move wasnt with much volume and more importantly if its intended for a continuation of the move up, they didnt spend a great deal of time accumulating the supply as to not encounter resistance. Also if you look at the two previous tops they seemed more interested in selling to the buyers.

If we do move up from here im going to look for SM to test demand and then look for a nice ride south.
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  • #8,235
  • Nov 1, 2010 1:37pm Nov 1, 2010 1:37pm
  •  jaboo
  • | Joined Dec 2009 | Status: Ray Comfort is....the banana man | 236 Posts
malc!

Took this snapshot on friday to try an analyze what would happen come market open.

I figured that SM still has some interest in pushing the price down a little. It did encounter some demand so if price drops, which i figure it would, i dont think its going to go far. Im going to look for volume with low spread to show supply changing hands so that SM can push this up.

what do you think?
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  • #8,236
  • Nov 3, 2010 8:33pm Nov 3, 2010 8:33pm
could this be stopping volume? what is your opinion shamus?
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  • #8,237
  • Nov 4, 2010 12:01am Nov 4, 2010 12:01am
Quoting apple_sauce
could this be stopping volume? what is your opinion shamus?
No. It doesn't meet the criteria for stopping volume. It does have some of the criteria but the crucial element is missing... It didn't close middle to top (top being preferred) You are using SMART and you can see the bar was not painted (yellow for stopping volume) so you know it was not a valid VSA signal.

I hope this helps. I am away at the moment so pop me a ticket via the website as I rarely check the factory while away.

Good luck trading and see you in the chat.
The trend always ends.
  • #8,238
  • Nov 4, 2010 9:43am Nov 4, 2010 9:43am
sorry i meant to say selling climax not stopping volume.

Quoting Shamus
No. It doesn't meet the criteria for stopping volume. It does have some of the criteria but the crucial element is missing... It didn't close middle to top (top being preferred) You are using SMART and you can see the bar was not painted (yellow for stopping volume) so you know it was not a valid VSA signal.

I hope this helps. I am away at the moment so pop me a ticket via the website as I rarely check the factory while away.

Good luck trading and see you in the chat.
  • #8,239
  • Nov 5, 2010 5:52am Nov 5, 2010 5:52am
Hello All, I am working on a strategy, using only better Volume, more importantly, the white Climax bars. Does anybody know of a way to add an Audio alert to notify me of when one turns up, so that i can then look at the screen during the day. I am currently looking @ 15min chart so there may be only 1 or 2 during a 12 hr period and that's hard work looking at a screen just waiting
regards
Anthony
  • #8,240
  • Edited 8:53am Nov 5, 2010 8:43am | Edited 8:53am
Quoting brownturtle
Hello All, I am working on a strategy, using only better Volume, more importantly, the white Climax bars. Does anybody know of a way to add an Audio alert to notify me of when one turns up, so that i can then look at the screen during the day. I am currently looking @ 15min chart so there may be only 1 or 2 during a 12 hr period and that's hard work looking at a screen just waiting
regards
Anthony
Do a search for adding audio alerts in the programming forum. I am away so don't have the proper code on this machine oherwise I'd just post it in. I hope this helps.

On an unrelated note someone asked in a ticket about future updates to SMART. I posted a list and figured I'd paste it here as well for those that don't keep up with the chats/thread.
I hope to have all of the following in the next update but in testing some may get pushed back.

What is planned (not a full list) for SMART:

Minor changes/optimizations to the background scanners

Changes/additions to the volume indicators (smart volume, volume support and resistance, and volume strength meter)

MTF EOM Module

Dead Zone Module (not really necessary) but alot have asked have asked for a visual indication

New Advanced (SMART VSA) Modules (2-3 I cannot remember atm) and custom alerts

Additional standard vsa modules and alerts (2 maybe more I cannot remember atm)

Popup alerts in addition to the already included audio alerts

Global setting additions to the settings module to easily edit templates

UI/Template additions and optimizations.


In addition to the above we are also moving forward on planning for both the stand alone version (can use single/multiple datafeeds from multiple providers mt4, esignal etc) as well as the plugins/ports for metastock and others for those that don't just trade forex.

If you have any questions pop them in a ticket or jump in the chat as I am not checking here too much for the next week or so.

Good luck trading and see you in the chat.
The trend always ends.
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