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  • #361
  • Oct 4, 2010 6:46am Oct 4, 2010 6:46am
further more i didn't say making those kind of returns was BS or impossible. I never said that . I think that you have to be skeptical when someone makes amazing claims, that's all. i'm sure Livermore had a little more evidence to back up his extraordinary talents than a few numbers posted on a forum. But you believe what you like....
  • #362
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:13am Oct 4, 2010 7:13am
Quoting Majestic12
LOL yeah because bleek is the next livermore
wtf is happening to this world
  • #363
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:16am Oct 4, 2010 7:16am
Quoting Majestic12
further more i didn't say making those kind of returns was BS or impossible. I never said that . I think that you have to be skeptical when someone makes amazing claims, that's all. i'm sure Livermore had a little more evidence to back up his extraordinary talents than a few numbers posted on a forum. But you believe what you like....
Of course, I was just remarking on your attitude in general, i.e. that large percentage returns in a short amount of time are a fairy tale.
  • #364
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:26am Oct 4, 2010 7:26am
I'm afraid you missed my point. Also consistently making gains like that - for 99.99+% of people it is a fairy tale. Anyway i am glad that you agree with my previous post
  • #365
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:31am Oct 4, 2010 7:31am
I have to say I'm rather disheartened by the attitude of some people on here but of course I was naive to expect any different, be it jealousy or just pure disbelief. I can understand both sides.

It makes no odds to me, I don't know any of you personally and nor do I want your money, this was never some low level scam to get private clients - what a farce.

I'm a decent hard working individual that perhaps 'got lucky' in finding a simple system that works, why on earth would I want to run accounts for other people when I can make a rather sizeable salary for myself just doing what I do now?

My current stats worked back not to the start of the year but rolling 12 months i.e. including trades before I changed my tact are as follows:

Win ratio 68% (rounded up to the nearest whole)
Risk is half my reward as a MINIMUM.
In reality my reward is often 2-3x my risk, sometimes 4 or 5x greater.

After drawdown I average around 22 pips per day, hardly shooting for the stars am I?

You only have to do the simple math to realise that even at just 50% accuracy (a coin toss) with that risk and reward I'd make good money.

So what's so hard to believe that someone can't take a 'small' number of pips over the week, keep the average and risk on their side and load up the contracts with conviction to make serious money?

Christ, you could make a substantial living just grabbing 10 pips a day if done right!

I never intended to divulge my system, however I was always willing to leave some clues and hints to help people along the way and in all honesty I regret starting this thread because I didn't mean to give false hope to anyone.

I didn't have any aspirations for this thread at all, with hindsight I should have considered the potential outcome of people feeling negative towards me, people that don't know me and really have no right to act they way they have been, but this is the internet and so we come to expect it.

And finally, for the record, 'somedude' is nothing to do with me; could one of the admin please confirm this via IP addresses?
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #366
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:33am Oct 4, 2010 7:33am
Quoting Majestic12
I'm afraid you missed my point. Also consistently making gains like that - for 99.99+% of people it is a fairy tale. Anyway i am glad that you agree with my previous post
What's so astonishing about being 60-70% right?

What's so incredible that my system would make me substantial money even if I were ONLY 50% right?

Forget the money here, it's all in my system, the risk, the reward, the way I build capital and they way I run a tiered system to keep building on that, it's accelerative and yes inherently risky BUT I have conviction in what I do, so I run with it.
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #367
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:38am Oct 4, 2010 7:38am
Quoting Bleek
What's so astonishing about being 60-70% right?

What's so incredible that my system would make me substantial money even if I were ONLY 50% right?

Forget the money here, it's all in my system, the risk, the reward, the way I build capital and they way I run a tiered system to keep building on that, it's accelerative and yes inherently risky BUT I have conviction in what I do, so I run with it.
bleek it's still just numbers mate, you can dispute all u want

n.b. we all have access to 50% or 60-70% systems, with R:R of our own making. means zilch as most will inevitably still cock it up
  • #368
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:42am Oct 4, 2010 7:42am
Quoting Sim
bleek it's still just numbers mate, you can dispute all u want

n.b. we all have access to 50% or 60-70% systems, with R:R of our own making. means zilch as most will inevitably still cock it up
Right, so you want me to print off my Alpari and GFT accounts? How about we go back to basics and just say I'm using 1 contract, would I be more believable then?
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #369
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:43am Oct 4, 2010 7:43am
"I never intended to divulge my system"

You should try searching your own thread for 'PDF' and see how many results you get.

I'm not getting at you its just that things do not add up when you make comments like this.
  • #370
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:48am Oct 4, 2010 7:48am
Quoting Majestic12
"I never intended to divulge my system"

You should try searching your own thread for 'PDF' and see how many results you get.

I'm not getting at you its just that things do not add up when you make comments like this.
Intentions are one thing, it was never a promise, it was my intent, I put a disclaimer on the first post to ask people not to push me for the 'system' as it never was my intention.

Intentions change, I started to feel like I owed it to people to release my 'system' but when people started getting impatient and harassing me via PM I clammed up. At the time work was proving rather taxing and things were tough for me, long days, long hours, I guess I had a reaction to it all and moved away from things - I changed direction.

That's perfectly reasonable and normal, it was always my decision. Like I sat in my post above, I'm very sorry if I gave anyone false hope. I also owe you nothing, I don't need to be here defending my position, but I want those that took some positives from this topic to carry on doing so, I don't want to waters muddied by the minority. Unfortunately that minority appears to be slowly increasing in number.
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #371
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:50am Oct 4, 2010 7:50am
Very interesting on this thread
  • #372
  • Oct 4, 2010 7:55am Oct 4, 2010 7:55am
The overriding positive that people would have come away with from reading this thread is that it is possible to change $2500 into $100,000 in two months, and i'm not sure that's healthy

i'm sorry bleek but i don't think the waters could be much more muddy. it's nothing personal i assure you.
  • #373
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:03am Oct 4, 2010 8:03am
Quoting Bleek
I have to say I'm rather disheartened by the attitude of some people on here but of course I was naive to expect any different, be it jealousy or just pure disbelief. I can understand both sides.



And finally, for the record, 'somedude' is nothing to do with me; could one of the admin please confirm this via IP addresses?
Well, like I say, I'm no detective, so that's one mystery cleared up, you not being Somedude I mean.

Thanks
  • #374
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:04am Oct 4, 2010 8:04am
And by the way, if you did manage to achieve that then all power to you, simply amazing stuff.
  • #375
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:05am Oct 4, 2010 8:05am
Quoting Majestic12
The overriding positive that people would have come away with from reading this thread is that it is possible to change $2500 into $100,000 in two months, and i'm not sure that's healthy

i'm sorry bleek but i don't think the waters could be much more muddy. it's nothing personal i assure you.
When you put it like that I have to agree and I do actually feel uncomfortable with the figures, I'll be honest, it ran away with me a little. I should have been more careful, lied, and used mini lots instead. There are enough losers in this 'game' already without me lending false hope, that's not my aim, nor is it to gain custom or a paid following - I don't have the time or want the pressure!

I've made ridiculous gains for an individual but compared to some mainstream and well-known persons out there, I'm still rather humble in comparison.
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #376
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:05am Oct 4, 2010 8:05am
Quoting Bleek
Right, so you want me to print off my Alpari and GFT accounts? How about we go back to basics and just say I'm using 1 contract, would I be more believable then?
nope if you say you're using 1 contract that would harm your credibility as it would show you've already lied in all your posts

anyway I think you know what's up here anyway, will let you get on
  • #377
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:06am Oct 4, 2010 8:06am
Quoting 4Xfactor
Well, like I say, I'm no detective, so that's one mystery cleared up, you not being Somedude I mean.

Thanks
I'm 28 years of age, I'm a director of a successful small business, I wouldn't stoop so low as to enrol with another account to back myself up, I have one voice.
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #378
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:07am Oct 4, 2010 8:07am
Quoting Sim
nope if you say you're using 1 contract that would harm your credibility as it would show you've already lied in all your posts

anyway I think you know what's up here anyway, will let you get on
What I meant is that perhaps I should have started off by saying I was using less accounts i.e. to give people less 'false hope' but then I would be bending the truth, damned if you do situation.
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #379
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:09am Oct 4, 2010 8:09am
Quoting Majestic12
And by the way, if you did manage to achieve that then all power to you, simply amazing stuff.
Thank you.

For the record I've stopped moving up my tiered risk system, even I have my limits, I've also withdrawn a lot of money in to a savings account to compound it. Without slowing the process I could see the whole money aspect getting out of hand and potentially leading to my downfall, I want to live comfortable, I don't need to be greedy to achieve that.
"I made all my money by selling too soon"
  • #380
  • Oct 4, 2010 8:12am Oct 4, 2010 8:12am
Bleek, will you be willing to continue dropping clues, perhaps answer questions in any cryptic manner you see fit?
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