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  • #161
  • Sep 28, 2010 5:33am Sep 28, 2010 5:33am
Quoting Porkpie
Rob, if you go through the odds enhancers that demand level isn't strong at all. Ideally we look for the strong momentum coming out of the origin of the move not before it. However, and this is where it could get interesting, in a strong up trend as we have on the GU, these lower scoring levels could be higher probability. Well worth doing some back referencing - something to add to our arsenal. Will see if there is a pattern with this and let you know. Ideally though Seiden recommends scanning lots of charts/markets (pref non correlated) and pick...
Yes I could see it wasn't that strong, but as we know, even these areas can sometimes cause significant reactions (like this morning's) and when used with some price action confirmation, with a tight SL, they can pay handsomely.

Whilst I use Supply & Demand, and have learned a lot from Sam, I don't necessarily always trade the way he teaches. I have other ways of entering trades which suit my personality. The important thing for me is being aware of the possible supply & demand zones that are sitting there. How we each trade the zones is down to individual trading style.

One example is Sho's Zone Attack. It teaches how to trade between the zones, as opposed to at the zones.

All good stuff to be aware of.

Rob
  • #162
  • Sep 28, 2010 5:43am Sep 28, 2010 5:43am
Quoting priceaction
Yes I could see it wasn't that strong, but as we know, even these areas can sometimes cause significant reactions (like this morning's) and when used with some price action confirmation, with a tight SL, they can pay handsomely.

Whilst I use Supply & Demand, and have learned a lot from Sam, I don't necessarily always trade the way he teaches. I have other ways of entering trades which suit my personality. The important thing for me is being aware of the possible supply & demand zones that are sitting there. How we each trade the zones is...
interesting stuff, will look into that.
Edit: ok his thread is a mish mash of styles. I think as long as there is consistency with seidens levels otherwise measuring performance is difficult and that has to be clear within this thread, and really the whole point is to get in at the levels as this reduces risk over the long term.
  • #163
  • Sep 28, 2010 5:59am Sep 28, 2010 5:59am
Quoting priceaction
The important thing for me is being aware of the possible supply & demand zones that are sitting there. How we each trade the zones is down to individual trading style.

Very true. I use the information in this way myself.
  • #164
  • Sep 28, 2010 6:22am Sep 28, 2010 6:22am
Quoting Porkpie
interesting stuff, will look into that.
Edit: ok his thread is a mish mash of styles. I think as long as there is consistency with seidens levels otherwise measuring performance is difficult and that has to be clear within this thread, and really the whole point is to get in at the levels as this reduces risk over the long term.
Sho's thread is not a mish mash. Study it properly and you will see. The guy trades for a living which is more than most on FF.

The purpose of this thread is to teach supply and demand levels. Sam Seiden's material provides the best material that I know of that does that. But the thread is not about trading "only the way Sam teaches". It is about taking advantage of supply and demand zones.

How each trader does that is down to them.

Rob
  • #165
  • Sep 28, 2010 6:46am Sep 28, 2010 6:46am
Quoting priceaction
Sho's thread is not a mish mash. Study it properly and you will see. The guy trades for a living which is more than most on FF.

The purpose of this thread is to teach supply and demand levels. Sam Seiden's material provides the best material that I know of that does that. But the thread is not about trading "only the way Sam teaches". It is about taking advantage of supply and demand zones.

How each trader does that is down to them.

Rob
Hi Rob,
Definetely Sho thread is great and combine with informations which u are collecting here and sharing about Sup. and Dem.zones is another great tool.
Both those threads have superb learning material.
Thank you for your time to share.
Have a nice day.
FX
  • #166
  • Sep 28, 2010 8:44am Sep 28, 2010 8:44am
GBPUSD has acted nicely at supply level with pierced BB. If the chart closes like this then others could be selling into the Bearish outside bar/engullfing bar. A nice position to be in.
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  • #167
  • Sep 28, 2010 9:44am Sep 28, 2010 9:44am
Quoting priceaction
Sho's thread is not a mish mash. Study it properly and you will see. The guy trades for a living which is more than most on FF.

The purpose of this thread is to teach supply and demand levels. Sam Seiden's material provides the best material that I know of that does that. But the thread is not about trading "only the way Sam teaches". It is about taking advantage of supply and demand zones.

How each trader does that is down to them.

Rob
yep, fair comment.
  • #168
  • Sep 28, 2010 9:47am Sep 28, 2010 9:47am
This 15 min IB at a previous demand zone provided a beautiful opportunity to go long with about a 20 pip risk.

Rob
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  • #169
  • Sep 28, 2010 10:46am Sep 28, 2010 10:46am
Quoting Porkpie
We had some small bounces yesterday off 5785 and then later on at 5811 which were good for small intra day profits. Today, am looking at the 720 area for GU for the next launch long
hope you all made some nice pips (90 pips with a 2 pip drawdown)!
  • #170
  • Sep 28, 2010 11:17am Sep 28, 2010 11:17am
The chart shows one possibility ...with the help of a few fun graphics
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  • #171
  • Sep 28, 2010 12:33pm Sep 28, 2010 12:33pm
Quoting priceaction
The chart shows one possibility ...with the help of a few fun graphics
haha, awesome
  • #172
  • Sep 29, 2010 2:19am Sep 29, 2010 2:19am
Quoting priceaction
Sho's thread is not a mish mash. Study it properly and you will see. The guy trades for a living which is more than most on FF.

The purpose of this thread is to teach supply and demand levels. Sam Seiden's material provides the best material that I know of that does that. But the thread is not about trading "only the way Sam teaches". It is about taking advantage of supply and demand zones.

How each trader does that is down to them.

Rob
I agree.

It is all about your trading personality.

I trade mostly the way Eric(Buildcity) has adapted Sho;s method.

You now have given me an extra tool in S+D Zones.

The challenge now is that you can be caught in two minds when you reach a SD Zone.

But through trail and error the rules I stick to is:

When you reach a SD Zone, price still can go anywhere.

Therefor wait for PA, because momentum is always king, AND keep you sl tight.

Always learning.

  • #173
  • Sep 29, 2010 4:15am Sep 29, 2010 4:15am
turned it right at the 2nd supply level
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  • #174
  • Sep 29, 2010 5:37am Sep 29, 2010 5:37am
Man, you read my mind. Another reason I have to slow down a bit in these days is major on this reason. I've to figure it out.

Quoting matlobien
The challenge now is that you can be caught in two minds when you reach a SD Zone.


  • #175
  • Sep 29, 2010 6:20am Sep 29, 2010 6:20am
Quoting Buildcity
Man, you read my mind. Another reason I have to slow down a bit in these days is major on this reason. I've to figure it out.
Maybe Sho is right.

Stick to one method ???

  • #176
  • Sep 29, 2010 6:30am Sep 29, 2010 6:30am
Quoting matlobien
Maybe Sho is right.

Stick to one method ???

Mat,

Knowing where possible supply and demand zones are does not mean that you are trading a method. It's simply being aware of what is on the charts. Just like knowing that a daily pin, 4hr upward channel or 1hr flag exists.

You can trade at the zones (as taught by Sam Seiden and others) or between the zones (as taught be Sho). Sho has taught trading between the zones (that is what his ZONE ATTACK is) but he couldn't teach that without knowing where the zones are

Am I making sense?

As with any business, "be a specialist" (with your business plan in writing) but be aware of the broader view of your business arena too.

Rob
  • #177
  • Sep 29, 2010 6:57am Sep 29, 2010 6:57am
Quoting matlobien
Maybe Sho is right.

Stick to one method ???

Hey Mat,
I took this trade combine info from here and with Sho's method u can be in this trade or just jump in to this trade.
Look on Rob's charts in think about it.

I hope this help.

P.S. Rob if this chart is not suit in this thread just let me know and I will deleted.
FX
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  • #178
  • Sep 29, 2010 7:08am Sep 29, 2010 7:08am
Quoting priceaction
Mat,

Knowing where possible supply and demand zones are does not mean that you are trading a method. It's simply being aware of what is on the charts. Just like knowing that a daily pin, 4hr upward channel or 1hr flag exists.

You can trade at the zones (as taught by Sam Seiden and others) or between the zones (as taught be Sho). Sho has taught trading between the zones (that is what his ZONE ATTACK is) but he couldn't teach that without knowing where the zones are

Am I making sense?

As with any business, "be a specialist"...
  • #179
  • Sep 29, 2010 8:42am Sep 29, 2010 8:42am
Quoting Fxfighter
Hey Mat,
I took this trade combine info from here and with Sho's method u can be in this trade or just jump in to this trade.
Look on Rob's charts in think about it.

I hope this help.

P.S. Rob if this chart is not suit in this thread just let me know and I will deleted.
FX
Thanks FX

This is a much clearer setup than on EJ and GU today which I usually trade.

  • #180
  • Sep 29, 2010 8:59am Sep 29, 2010 8:59am
Quoting matlobien
Thanks FX

This is a much clearer setup than on EJ and GU today which I usually trade.

Yes I agree, that's why I scan a few pairs,more better set ups.
Anyway Matt I am just learning so don't want to give you or anyone any advices.Only show you how I see things in this stage my study that's all.
I am far away be good in this but I like to see how is thinking Rob,Sho,Porkie and another experts with ton of experiences and just try to put all this things together in the way which works for me.

Best
FX
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