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  • #621
  • Sep 18, 2010 2:20pm Sep 18, 2010 2:20pm
Quoting flyer415
I would say that your post is nothing more then attempt to divide and conquer the J16 group....
Yet another James16 dog running over to protect his master. You can argue all you want, but it wont be with me.
  • #622
  • Sep 18, 2010 2:38pm Sep 18, 2010 2:38pm
Quoting PA Trader
Yet another James16 dog running over to protect his master. You can argue all you want, but it wont be with me.

That is also another tactic of those who destroy. Ad hominen attacks because you cannot reply to the original comment.

I would suggest that instead of attacking that you debate instead. I personally don't care if James16 or Van Tharp or anyone else trades or not. As for the concepts being in tune with Pring I would agree. Also Al Brooks. I would venture to say that most trading methods/styles etc are similar to that of others.

Your statement that you are a lifetime member of J16 while only being a member of FF for 7 months seems improbable. To put this aside you can prove it by informing us of your other FF name (if you have one) or your J16 name.


At that point in time then I would argue that you are discussing this in full knowledge, that you are a legitimate source and that you should be listened to.

Lately there has been a flood of scammers coming onto this site, a flood of dormant accounts being reactivated and defenses and attacks upon numerous people. Some people have taken to attacking other people for the simple reason to diffuse the jacko incident in the belief that people are fickle and will only remember the current issue.

I support you in identifying scammers and outing them as quickly as possible. I wish you well in that endeavour but I do not believe that you are helping yourself or your argument when you make statements that cannot be verified or seem improbable on the surface.
  • #623
  • Sep 18, 2010 7:57pm Sep 18, 2010 7:57pm
Quoting flyer415
I would say that your post is nothing more then attempt to divide and conquer the J16 group....
Yawwnnnn, yet another blind J16 follower that spends all their time trying to discredit the messenger instead of the message! The pattern should be quite obvious by everyone by now.
  • #624
  • Sep 18, 2010 9:00pm Sep 18, 2010 9:00pm
Quoting thx1139
Yawwnnnn, yet another blind J16 follower that spends all their time trying to discredit the messenger instead of the message! The pattern should be quite obvious by everyone by now.

And yet another ad hominem attack.

the irony is that the part in bold indicates that you understand the fallacy of an ad hominem attack but yet you stoop to using it.

if you had read my post then you would understand that i was debating a point but yet this thread has devolved to nothing more then ad hominem attacks such as the one you just espoused.

As i said earlier the number of new users that are being created just for this purpose is astounding.
  • #625
  • Sep 18, 2010 11:41pm Sep 18, 2010 11:41pm
I think this thread is worthless.. i mean im all about calling people out... but uh hes just teaching some technical analysis trading style.. its the same shit in a japanese candlestick book.. he just decides to slap a 1500$ price tag on it and call it pa... and offer a continuing mentor service..

is it worth it? no i dont think so...
is he a scammer? nah just a good marketer and good at feeding people what they already should know under a different name for a hefty price tag.

but as we should all know here.. you should be able to figure out if hes full of shit for yourself.. you dont need someone to protect you from j16.. just like i dont need the goverment to protect me as a trader from myself..?..? and the market?.?

facts..

-no published trading record...
-no live trade calls at least on this forum...
-large fee for teaching.. when if he was a trader he wouldnt have to charge. because he would have money from trading..
-no real system only methodology makes it untrackable and results vary

figure it out for yourself
  • #626
  • Sep 19, 2010 10:46pm Sep 19, 2010 10:46pm
Quoting PA Trader
Is that a lot of money to you? You poor fella. It's all part of playing the system, how can information gathered over a month be worthy? I'm there to stay for life now, they don't even know who I am, does that bother you too?
I have uncovered and helped prosecute many FX scammers as we need to rid this business of these low life people.
I'm so glad there are honest people like you to protect innocent people like me . Hey, what if your a scammer! I just don't know who to believe anymore . I wish I wasn't so lazy and gullible that way I could take care of myself. I want my mommy
  • #627
  • Sep 19, 2010 11:55pm Sep 19, 2010 11:55pm
Quoting flyer415
And yet another ad hominem attack.

the irony is that the part in bold indicates that you understand the fallacy of an ad hominem attack but yet you stoop to using it.

if you had read my post then you would understand that i was debating a point but yet this thread has devolved to nothing more then ad hominem attacks such as the one you just espoused.

As i said earlier the number of new users that are being created just for this purpose is astounding.
Ad hominem. You like using that word? Care to comment on the subject matter or you want to keep throwing out strawmen?
  • #628
  • Sep 20, 2010 3:27pm Sep 20, 2010 3:27pm
damn...i usually don't read, the soap opera. i was just looking to c what happened to ak4x. looks like the dream is a nightmare. that's a shame. good luck to the righteous. no opinion to judge for myself. we live, we die. memories of others define the success or not. sometimes we are the others in the mirror.

ill lock the door on the way out.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #629
  • Sep 22, 2010 10:03am Sep 22, 2010 10:03am
Quoting raczekfx
You are wrong, but...who cares. It doesn't matter;95% of people ..... are wrong, wrong, wrong...
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Well said, Rac! No matter what 5% of people say/do, it's hard to change the minds/believes of the remaining 95% (especially if they don't want to be changed...). It's like looking for that black car (or leading a horse to water).
One Chart is Worth Ten Thousand Words.
  • #630
  • Sep 22, 2010 10:32pm Sep 22, 2010 10:32pm
$10,000 usd to anyone who can provide any statements that they made any profits over a year using j16 method.inflation will erode the 10k before anyone comes forward,james a trader never,system seller yes.his system is worth every penny to show you how not to make money in the markets lol.james you are as much a trader as jacko ever was god bless you both you wont be going to heven lol
student
  • #631
  • Sep 22, 2010 10:54pm Sep 22, 2010 10:54pm
Quoting garrye
$10,000 usd to anyone who can provide any statements that they made any profits over a year using j16 method.inflation will erode the 10k before anyone comes forward,james a trader never,system seller yes.his system is worth every penny to show you how not to make money in the markets lol.james you are as much a trader as jacko ever was god bless you both you wont be going to heven lol
Not statement, but there is an equity curve by a keen J16 supporter.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...5&d=1284565000

See:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...ostcount=74876
  • #632
  • Sep 23, 2010 2:19pm Sep 23, 2010 2:19pm
This is a portion of the first thread on the james 16 commercial site

" 11. HOW MANY EDUCATIONAL SITES STATE CLEARLY THAT IF YOU CANT AFFORD US WE WILL HELP YOU FOR FREE?

12. HOW MANY EDUCATIONAL SITES HAVE HELPED 1000 TIMES MORE PEOPLE FOR FREE THAN PAID MEMBERS? "

This is a portion of an emai I sent to James16

I stopped trading for quite a while, then I got sick - had a double lung transplant - then a bout of melanoma cancer on my back - and just this past January I went on kidney dialysis. That's when I got re-interested in trading again. So far, I've been sim trading with Ninja and Meta4.

I would sure like to become a member of the "James16 Group" again but alas. I can't afford the monthly fee as I have just enough saved to allow me to go live somewhere. I understand that you do allow "freebies" sometime - and I am hoping that you would consider that in my case.

Thanks for all that you have done for the 4x traders all over the planet (I guess, by now).

Sincerly,
Doug Blacklock ("doogal)

His reply:- hello doug. sure i remember you. can i be honest? i honestly think your making a mistake going back into things live based on what im reading here.

thats my honest opinion,

jim.


'S0000', James did send me a membership name and password, but I couldn't use it unless I signed up with his program. Whether or not it would be worthwhile to join his group, I don't know. With all the free stuff on the net now - why pay an outrageous (in my opinion) monthly fee for stuff that is freely availible on this site and the rest of the "Web"

My point is that "HIS HEINESS" is not as charitable as he brages. And who said that I would go live trading if he were to take me in as a freebie!!!

I would like to hear from someone who was "ligitimately" sponcered FREE by james16!!

That's my 2 cents worth in my first post in a long, long time.

doogal
The pip logger
THANKS and BYE DOOHAL - THE pip LOGGER
  • #633
  • Sep 23, 2010 8:14pm Sep 23, 2010 8:14pm
Hey doogal, I don't blame him ....would you encourage someone with barely enough money to live on to start trading ? Come up with a better story next time.
  • #634
  • Sep 23, 2010 10:01pm Sep 23, 2010 10:01pm
Quoting doogal
This is a portion of the first thread on the james 16 commercial site

" 11. HOW MANY EDUCATIONAL SITES STATE CLEARLY THAT IF YOU CANT AFFORD US WE WILL HELP YOU FOR FREE?

12. HOW MANY EDUCATIONAL SITES HAVE HELPED 1000 TIMES MORE PEOPLE FOR FREE THAN PAID MEMBERS? "

This is a portion of an emai I sent to James16

[b][font=Arial][size=2]I stopped trading for quite a while, then I got sick - had a double lung transplant - then a bout of melanoma cancer on my back - and just this past...
You are barely smart enough to draft a post let alone trade by yourself. Why do you think your should get a free pass?

Oh and you are the one who said you would "go live somewhere" insinuating that the money you had was for an account, not training... why else would you open a live acct? To look at it and pretend to be a real trader?

You are right with all the free info out there why should you pay for anything. Why not start at the free thread (if you can find it on your own) and quit looking for a handout.
  • #635
  • Sep 23, 2010 11:49pm Sep 23, 2010 11:49pm
It is quite entertaining to watch the J16 lemmings twist themselves into pretzels defending him the more facts and logic and common sense you throw at them!
  • #636
  • Sep 24, 2010 6:05am Sep 24, 2010 6:05am
Quoting thx1139
It is quite entertaining to watch the J16 lemmings twist themselves into pretzels defending him the more facts and logic and common sense you throw at them!
You must be joking?

What have you contributed to these forums? One chart. Hmmm.

The James16 thread is pure gold. Whether people want to pay for more resources is up to them.
Gone to a better place
  • #637
  • Sep 24, 2010 6:53am Sep 24, 2010 6:53am
Quoting smikester
The James16 thread is pure gold.
Agreed. Comedy gold !
  • #638
  • Sep 24, 2010 7:20am Sep 24, 2010 7:20am
Oh I get it now. It's a troll camp. Not even a witty one.
Gone to a better place
  • #639
  • Sep 24, 2010 8:36am Sep 24, 2010 8:36am
Quoting smikester
Oh I get it now. It's a troll camp. Not even a witty one.
most arnt...
  • #640
  • Sep 24, 2010 8:52am Sep 24, 2010 8:52am
Quoting smikester
Oh I get it now. It's a troll camp. Not even a witty one.
no just a money making machine for james16 products,non trader system seller and a good one at that.10k still up for grabs
student
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