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  • #321
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:12pm Sep 9, 2010 3:12pm
Quoting Mr Smith
this thread probably has acted as advertising rather then a deterrent.
hey mr smith...... your probably right.....

at least one person was signing up last night for sure...... have written indicators and ea's for some of the james gang over the years but never really read the thread...... it appeals to me, just lack of time......

now kinda would like to know first hand what the deal is all about..... glad to see it's a flat rate..... usually i have to pay the extra 'poor student' charge......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #322
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:17pm Sep 9, 2010 3:17pm
Quoting hayseed
at least one person was signing up last night for sure......
Is it you?

I am considering now... I have been thinking the free thread is more than enough... but now it is tempting to pay... seems a lot more exciting experience in the paid site....
  • #323
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:33pm Sep 9, 2010 3:33pm
What is being sold in the pf is more time with many instructors, more one on one time, it takes each instructors personal time so the need for a fee, there is other bonuses for the pf, like not having to deal with interruptions from people hassling people, there is a whole forum of people helping people, to do what there doing over there for free would simply not be possible, they have live webinars, the cost to host those costs money, blablabla etc etc.

EDIT: I have never joined, never had the need, so take what I'm saying for what it is, what I've heard thru the grape vine, I'm sure some members could add to what I've said, or correct me if somethign I've said is wrong.

Quoting GubyIQ
I already told my point of view. I`ll repeat it. J16 presented a strategy in his free thread. That's fine by me, anyone can do that. But why is he charging money ? what are the newbies paying that money expecting to get ? More insight into that strategy from a guy who supposedly has 25+ years of experience and is profitable. But what if he is not ? And I suspect he isn't , otherwise he would've silenced the doubters a long time ago. Isn't he selling the dream that you could become a profitable trader with his strategy ?

Hope you...
  • #324
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:38pm Sep 9, 2010 3:38pm
Quoting kk007
Is it you?....
hey kk...... yes, me.....

several people have said the free thread is excellent in it's own right.... someone just posted a note about 4 hour audusd pinbar on that thread.....

it's just a time issue with me..... if the paid site can save me a few minutes a day, it's well worth the price......

i have ea's that trade pinbars every day...... occasionally post them in my usual carefree manner......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #325
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:39pm Sep 9, 2010 3:39pm
Quoting Mr Smith
What is being sold in the pf is more time with many instructors, more one on one time, it takes each instructors personal time so the need for a fee.
Would you pay this guy http://media.photobucket.com/image/f...fatguy.jpg?o=8
to be your fitness instructor ? for all we now, j16 and the others may be losing money in their trading accounts. They could very well be the equivalent in trading of that guy. We have no proof otherwise. So what entitles them to instruct others for a fee?

just rememeber an old saying: "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.
  • #326
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:48pm Sep 9, 2010 3:48pm
Quoting hayseed
someone just posted a note about 4 hour audusd pinbar on that thread.....
Did he happen to say which timezone it appeared in?
  • #327
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:51pm Sep 9, 2010 3:51pm
Quoting GubyIQ
Would you pay this guy http://media.photobucket.com/image/f...fatguy.jpg?o=8
to be your fitness instructor ? for all we now, j16 and the others may be losing money in their trading accounts. They could very well be the equivalent in trading of that guy. We have no proof otherwise. So what entitles them to instruct others for a fee?

just rememeber an old saying: "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
Is this guy in the pic below not paid millions a year to coach the New York Jets?

How about the Kansas coach in the bottom pic?
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  • #328
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:54pm Sep 9, 2010 3:54pm
Quoting Mr Smith
they have live webinars, the cost to host those costs money
Indeed it does, $65/month. So let's see here, $65 / 350 members = 18 cents. $129 - 18 cents =
  • #329
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:58pm Sep 9, 2010 3:58pm
@wwwin

c'mon, don't pretend you don't get my point, because i know you do.

First of all, i don't know that guy. But I suppose he's the trainer of that team. He coaches football, not fitness. And beside, I suppose he was a football player himself. He has some credentials to his name, otherwise he wouldn't get millions.

What credentials does J16 have ? I mean concrete proof, not that he is vouched for by merlin or is constantly being cheerleaded on FF.
The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.
  • #330
  • Sep 9, 2010 3:58pm Sep 9, 2010 3:58pm
Quoting Mr Smith
EDIT: I have never joined, never had the need, so take what I'm saying for what it is, what I've heard thru the grape vine, I'm sure some members could add to what I've said, or correct me if somethign I've said is wrong.
I was member and yes, u are wrong. Im not sure why u are doing this.
  • #331
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:03pm Sep 9, 2010 4:03pm
I have been gone a while, come back to find all hell has broken lose.! Just wanted to say James16 is not a scammer, sure he is a business man, offering a service, and I sometime think he lays on the nice guy too much, but I maybe wrong and he is genuine, apologies if its true.

I have joined in the past and there is lots of great videos and advice. The question of J16 being a successful trader is moot, you aren't paying to see his private information, but to access his and others teachings. Will it make you a successful trader? Maybe. Maybe not, but it certainly no scam, anymore than Slim Fast is a scam, you get something for your money, it may work, or not.
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  • #332
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:07pm Sep 9, 2010 4:07pm
Quoting wwwin
Is this guy in the pic below not paid millions a year to coach the New York Jets?
I dont really know who the New York Jets are or what they do, (I'm assuming they're a sports team playing football, or baseball) but I assume this guy had a successful track record with other clubs, or was possibly even an ex player prior to his appointment.

I think its highly unlikely that he was just some fat guy who wandered in off the street and was offered a job.
  • #333
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:08pm Sep 9, 2010 4:08pm
Quoting Trader KGB
Did he happen to say which timezone it appeared in?
hey trader...... not that i remember.... but several people posted they did not see it on their platform...... which as you know is common between different brokers/servers.....

for sure, both the audusd and nzdusd did have 4 hr pinbars on mine...... trades were placed on both.... i'm using ibfx....

almost looks like there might be daily pinbars to boot......

these must recent 240 pinbars of course are different than the link i posted earlier.......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #334
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:09pm Sep 9, 2010 4:09pm
Quoting GubyIQ
@wwwin

c'mon, don't pretend you don't get my point, because i know you do.

First of all, i don't know that guy. But I suppose he's the trainer of that team. He coaches football, not fitness. And beside, I suppose he was a football player himself. He has some credentials to his name, otherwise he wouldn't get millions.

What credentials does J16 have ? I mean concrete proof, not that he is vouched for by merlin or is constantly being cheerleaded on FF.
The only way to know if it is worth it or not would be to poll former members on whether it was worth the cost. But how are you going to verify that they are actually former members and whether they have an agenda?
To tell you the truth, nobody believes Dragon and you may be actually giving James FREE ADVERTISING by continuing the thread, cause I have not heard anything so far that would change my mind to the negative and there are long time members on his side posting. So if he does not screw up by posting while he is angry, he is not being damaged at all.
  • #335
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:18pm Sep 9, 2010 4:18pm
I hope this thread gives some food for thought for would-be customers. Before this thread, anyone doing DD about J16 wouldn't have found a doubt regarding the guy.

I already got a private message from someone saying that he never thought about J16 this way. That shows me I haven't posted here in vain.
The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.
  • #336
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:22pm Sep 9, 2010 4:22pm
Quoting GubyIQ
I hope this thread gives some food for thought for would-be customers. Before this thread, anyone doing DD about J16 wouldn't have found a doubt regarding the guy.

I already got a private message from someone saying that he never thought about J16 this way. That shows me I haven't posted here in vain.
Yeah, and you also have guys here saying they joined or are going to join so it works both ways.
  • #337
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:27pm Sep 9, 2010 4:27pm
Quoting hayseed
hey trader...... not that i remember.... but several people posted they did not see it on their platform...... which as you know is common between different brokers/servers.....
Exactly. The time zone question was intended to be sarcastic, playing upon flotsom's humorous pin bar review, which you also just reiterated (they're entirely dependent on which time zone the viewer is situated in).

If it's not already obvious by my last two posts, I'm now participating here for entertainment only. The time for logical discourse has long since ended (pretty much nailed shut when my posts were answered with a blanket statement reply, though I'm not really surprised).
  • #338
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:31pm Sep 9, 2010 4:31pm
Quoting GubyIQ
Would you pay this guy http://media.photobucket.com/image/f...fatguy.jpg?o=8
to be your fitness instructor ? for all we now, j16 and the others may be losing money in their trading accounts. They could very well be the equivalent in trading of that guy. We have no proof otherwise. So what entitles them to instruct others for a fee?

just rememeber an old saying: "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the...
I make money because of j16, mike and others in the free thread, simple as that.

Try the teachings in the free thread, if you start making money, who cares if your teachers are making money or not.
  • #339
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:34pm Sep 9, 2010 4:34pm
Quoting alter
I was member and yes, u are wrong. Im not sure why u are doing this.
What am I wrong about?
  • #340
  • Sep 9, 2010 4:35pm Sep 9, 2010 4:35pm
Quoting Mr Smith
I make money because of j16, mike and others in the free thread, simple as that.

Try the teachings in the free thread, if you start making money, who cares if your teachers are making money or not.
Why don't you post in real time or close to it a few of your trades with an explanation why you took them so we all can see. Nobody would be able to dispute a few real time calls right?
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