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Seeking Immediate Investor

  • #81
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:18pm Aug 18, 2010 2:18pm
Quoting mabenn
someone that understands trading so they will understand the edge that I have without having to prove it to them.
No.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #82
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:25pm Aug 18, 2010 2:25pm
Quoting Scotty2Cues
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/trad...investors.html

Trader_Dante's posts are respectable
Very good article indeed.
FX Specialist
  • #83
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:26pm Aug 18, 2010 2:26pm
Quoting The Fool
No.
... Of course proof is in the results, but it would help to understand my trading method.
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  • #84
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:34pm Aug 18, 2010 2:34pm
Results are ALL that matters. You don't have any worth mentioning. There isn't really much else to say. I wouldn't spend much more time here if I were you. You've got more important things to get done. And so do I.

From trader_dante's post.

"1. Get a track record. If you are any good and in a position to return money to investors, you should be able to make money for yourself. Start small and build a track record that you can show to people. Your account may be small but its consistency and percentage returns, plus awareness of maximum drawdowns etc that investors look for. In this game, word of mouth quickly spreads. It depends on your circumstances but for smaller traders and even some that have become huge (e.g. the market wizards) investment often started at home. If family see you making money, they may come forward and ask you to manage some for them...this can lead onto close friends who then spread the word to other friends that they are doing well with you etc and you can get an entry in this way."
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #85
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:59pm Aug 18, 2010 2:59pm
Quoting The Fool
Results are ALL that matters. You don't have any worth mentioning. There isn't really much else to say. I wouldn't spend much more time here if I were you. You've got more important things to get done. And so do I.

From trader_dante's post.

"1. Get a track record. If you are any good and in a position to return money to investors, you should be able to make money for yourself. Start small and build a track record that you can show to people. Your account may be small but its consistency and percentage returns, plus awareness of maximum...

Hey Guys, all of your points are well taken and this has been a very interesting exercise. I have actually learned some really good things from all the posters. I will take the advice of setting up my own trading account, and perhaps even getting a part time job so I'm not having to live off the trading account and then in 6 months or so maybe you will all see another post from me but I will have an actual live track record to share.

If anyone is interested in following along with my progress just pm me and I will send a regular email out to potential future investors. Maybe I will start a blog for which people can see screen shots, etc.

Thanks sincerely to all who posted on this. I know it was probably some pretty funny shit, and looking back I don't blame anyone for thinking so.

Great trading to you all.
FX Specialist
  • #86
  • Aug 18, 2010 4:04pm Aug 18, 2010 4:04pm
You can share your stats on sites like mt4stats.com or myfxbook. Then just share the link please. You'll see a little bit of competition on the later site -- you know there are many good systems and many good traders around.

Quoting mabenn
If anyone is interested in following along with my progress just pm me and I will send a regular email out to potential future investors. Maybe I will start a blog for which people can see screen shots, etc.
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #87
  • Aug 18, 2010 4:19pm Aug 18, 2010 4:19pm
instead of asking 100k from an investor why not ask $100 from 1000 investors? i think that's more achievable given your 'credentials'
  • #88
  • Aug 18, 2010 4:23pm Aug 18, 2010 4:23pm
You should start opening your eyes instead of making kind reply at any comments done!

Because the baddest of all is that you'll actually finish by beleive in your fiction.

But reality is:

Your demo experience is nothing and not enough compare to live trading. This is a whole different world. And you have NO idea about the stress of managing other ppl money. Beleive me!

What you ask been done before and ppl have got scam, so your are not at the good place.

Just the way you do your approch sounds like a new comer on the subject to be honnest.

PPl around here have seen others like you, and have a better idea then yourself about that kind of "partnership".

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Whit 25k you can open an account at any respectful broker.
Making what you say 1% is 250$ a day x 5= 1000 a week.

Canada tax is around 30% so its like 700$ a week, 36400k a year.
If you can compound a little you should do around 70k.

Anyway, I think the point been done by many.
Better trade your own capital and built it.

Sorry to be honnest, but we need to be realistic here.
Good gambling!
"Flip that coin!"
  • #89
  • Aug 18, 2010 4:24pm Aug 18, 2010 4:24pm
This make so much more sens!

Wish you the best!

Quoting mabenn
Hey Guys, all of your points are well taken and this has been a very interesting exercise. I have actually learned some really good things from all the posters. I will take the advice of setting up my own trading account, and perhaps even getting a part time job so I'm not having to live off the trading account and then in 6 months or so maybe you will all see another post from me but I will have an actual live track record to share.

If anyone is interested in following along with my progress just pm me and I will send a regular email out to potential...
"Flip that coin!"
  • #90
  • Aug 18, 2010 4:29pm Aug 18, 2010 4:29pm
Yeah man, that's f...ing it! I read about Instaforex PAMM accounts where you can jump in with $100.

Quoting hilmy83
instead of asking 100k from an investor why not ask $100 from 1000 investors? i think that's more achievable given your 'credentials'
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #91
  • Aug 18, 2010 5:16pm Aug 18, 2010 5:16pm
This thread is even better than Jacko's one.
  • #92
  • Aug 18, 2010 10:37pm Aug 18, 2010 10:37pm
So mabenn, you are budgeting 25k to allocate to this venture of yours (in the event of the loss you outline in your original post). Given that you would be splitting 50% of profits with any investor, you can effectively say that's worth 50k of investment money - or exactly half of what you are seeking from an investor... why not just make up the differerence through other paid employment and enjoy the spoils of trading for a living with an investor on your back... much more logical I think.. assuming you are serious about this of course and your call for $ is being made in good faith.....
  • #93
  • Aug 19, 2010 2:29am Aug 19, 2010 2:29am
The only reason I have been able to become a confident trader is because of how I have worked on myself.

How can you say you are a confident trader - you've only ever traded a demo account - that is akin to playing a video game and really believing you've fought and won a war!

I offered you the best advice you will ever get - start trading live with just 5K - take it all leave it.
I've got my pips - go get yours!
  • #94
  • Edited 2:53am Aug 19, 2010 2:37am | Edited 2:53am
This is the funniest thread I've seen in ages - thanks for the laugh!

When these 3 words are in the same sentence IMMEDIATE INVESTOR and 100k.... - well ya know

classic

And hes only taking 50% of the profits! AWESOME
Time hides Nothing
  • #95
  • Aug 19, 2010 3:01am Aug 19, 2010 3:01am
HAHAHAH, CLOGGIE

All people are clever after war , You and many more here is talking like this - so clever... AFTER FACT EVERYONE IS CLEVER LOLOLOLOL
But i will not say You are idiot.. or others.. You are the cleverest ones, offcourse, after fact LOL

The same i see in business every day - Mainly all people around will talk after fact - yea... i new You should buy this or this.. price will not be higher.. etc,..
Hey, if You are so clever - where You were before fact lol.. 95 % are like this !
Those mainly are the cleverest ones who are not doing anything in they life, just saying all things after fact, offcourse, i am not talking about 100 % all people. That for those who dont understand what it is all about..

I was member of Jacko many years ago, i learned few good things, i saw how he posted and was sending ALL trades BEFORE - and they were + trades much more than profits.

Were You and You all others who are now talking so clever were than, when all was going good ? HAHAHAHHA

Are You or many other members who are talking here so clever is posting trades before fact ? Mainly noone. Does i care how it could be that jacko showed so good results and in the same time that was scam ? No, i dont care, i was member in his group and learned few good things... that all i need.

Is he scam really - its not about that my post and i dont care so much , but about You all who are now so clever. Just like newbies after fact - Ouuuuu yeaaaah.... i could spot this trade !!! LOL... etc etc etc...

WHAHWHAWHAA

Here on forum is few others who are spoting trades mainly ALWAYS before fact like Jacko does - so, Maybe they are also scamers ? James 16 ? Malcomb.. etc... - Maybe they are long term scamers ? Offcourse, if they wil be - You will say it after fact LOL
Just an example the same as Jacko.


I could write more, but i THINK those clever ones should understand what is this post about.
If not, than You will start me argumenting something etc etc.. dont do that for me - i dont care - i see how You act after fact as the ones, who are the cleverest ones.


Just think before talk.

Best,
Tom





Quoting cloggie
Oh you never know, Jacko managed to get 4 mill from here without ever showing a single statement, and nobody even knew who the guy really was or where he lived.

Plenty of !d!ots born every day.
  • #96
  • Aug 19, 2010 4:22am Aug 19, 2010 4:22am
Quoting tfflyer

HAHAHAH

LOLOLOLOL

HAHAHAHHA

Ouuuuu yeaaaah....

LOL... etc etc etc...

WHAHWHAWHAA


I could write more

Yeah I'm sure you could, it's like verbal diarrhea!

Cut down on the caffeine and quit the illegal substances, you'll be fine....


Jee....zus!
  • #97
  • Aug 19, 2010 4:28am Aug 19, 2010 4:28am
Quoting mabenn

Thanks for your healthy skepticism pipmutt.
You're welcome! Just think, if this is the kind of reaction you're getting from non-investors then what would people who have money on the line say.

I think you need to look at industry standards regarding management fees and performance fees, your model (although unorthodox and unique!) doesn't really fly. People, especially investors, prefer simple over complex, all they want to know is how much they'll make and how much they're risking to make it. They're unlikely to be interested in your ongoing eduction, expenses, internet arrangements, or your overhead.

There's plenty of money in the world looking for places to invest, but the proposal has to be right.

Anyway, good luck!
  • #98
  • Edited 8:48am Aug 19, 2010 4:39am | Edited 8:48am
Quoting BackTestDummy
At least you're being honest and upfront - but the fact that by your own admission you still need mentoring suggest you are not ready for live trading, at least not with somebody else's money.

The psychological part of trading is the hardest bit to conquer and it seems you haven't even experienced that part yet.

I would suggest that you start with 5K, and please don't start live trading with any more than that - it will at least give you a live trading record .

I know you say you need 50K, but you're not going to get it.
Is there any way you can trade a simulator with the indicator you rent? Money management is your forte, but without an edge it does little good. So, if you can repeat your trade study 100's of times in discretionary, mm will have a place to be.

You've got mm credibility, which I'd think reveals boredom since you're never really risking much %wise by returning to BE. And yet your fund's BE suggests artificial, not reason-based, entries/TP's/SL's.

As for me, I lost all my $ and then some for lack of mm. Then, when I had nothing and yet continued to study trading, I realized only edge gives purpose to mm. It's less HG-chasing than learning to directly manage what the chart does . Admit a mistake, not an error in chart interpretation.

Or maybe you'll continue on the path of mm credibility and get that CTA certificate. It's just, what's first.
  • #99
  • Aug 19, 2010 4:46am Aug 19, 2010 4:46am
YEaa yeaa.. typical thing what do also CLEVER ones
Forgeting about true

Yea.. true is too much pain for You all - clever ones

HAHAHAHHWHAWHAHLOLOLHAHAHWHAHWHAA




Jee..zuss





Quoting pipmutt
Yeah I'm sure you could, it's like verbal diarrhea!

Cut down on the caffeine and quit the illegal substances, you'll be fine....


Jee....zus!
  • #100
  • Aug 19, 2010 4:49am Aug 19, 2010 4:49am
Quoting tfflyer
YEaa yeaa.. typical thing what do also CLEVER ones
Forgeting about true

Yea.. true is too much pain for You all - clever ones

HAHAHAHHWHAWHAHLOLOLHAHAHWHAHWHAA




Jee..zuss

Quoting tfflyer


I was member of Jacko

There's a surprise! Mind you, it figures.....

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