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  • #2,281
  • Aug 15, 2010 1:28am Aug 15, 2010 1:28am
Quoting fxsignal
Here is a before the fact analysis of the EURUSD for you. 1.26990 is about as low as the eurusd can go before it has to make a retrace up, price cannot go back in time so it will have to escape from the VP soon.

All the best

Mike


Very interesting indeed. Is this something you use often in your analysis?
  • #2,282
  • Aug 15, 2010 1:50am Aug 15, 2010 1:50am
Vesica Piscis literally means the "bladder of a fish" in Latin. Ok now im really interested lol. However, i cannot find any reading material regarding the application to market charts. It looks like it would work well with fibonacci in particular. Would like to learn more if you can elaborate on its uses.
  • #2,283
  • Edited 2:50am Aug 15, 2010 2:22am | Edited 2:50am
Quoting fxsignal
You want to simplify the pattern to the original. which is 2 intersecting circles. The bit in the middle is where the action takes place. Study this and draw two circles on a bit of plastic. The overlay it on your chart.

You will see that the correct scaling might need to be adjusted, but its a great tool if used correctly.

Go through a market you want to trade and find the correct size of circles to use. Each time frame will prefer certain ratios.

Good Luck

Mike



Are you sure this is the correct way to draw them?


''The Vesica piscis is a shape which is the intersection of two circles with the same radius, intersecting in such a way that the center of each circle lies on the circumference of the other.''


Whilst the two circles in your example have the same circumference, they do not intersect in the centre of the other...
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  • #2,284
  • Aug 15, 2010 6:54am Aug 15, 2010 6:54am
In the affixed drawing Russian variant VP.
Attempt to map in two-dimensional space four-dimensional model of interaction of price model. It is the simplified variant. I'm is not assured that it will help with trade, but to the general representation of interaction in price patterns is useful.
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  • #2,285
  • Aug 15, 2010 7:43am Aug 15, 2010 7:43am
5 wave decline so far, would imply a short retrace up and another collapse down, typically corrections are 3 waves and ABC in construction.

The great thing is falling markets make money quickly, and they could be falling for some time yet...


All the best


Mike
  • #2,286
  • Aug 15, 2010 7:54am Aug 15, 2010 7:54am
Quite right about the VP drawing, however the market will allow you to draw then using price, its up to you to find the correct radi. Basically the VP is a curved non linear trend line, once you can draw the lower limit, the upper limit should be a match, this gives you the rugby ball look.

Now, price should stay with in the upper and lower limit boundary, once it starts moving out, you get a heads up that something is going on. What I posted was to show people the idea so the actual drawing was not spot on.

However, I am also a fractal trader so 5,7,9 fractals are often the end of a move.

All the best


Mike
  • #2,287
  • Edited 10:20am Aug 15, 2010 10:10am | Edited 10:20am
Quoting WGann
It is all in here :-

George Bayer - Turning 400 Years Of Astrology To Practical Use And Other Matters

just downloaded the above pdf ..... glanced through a few pages ... need to sit down one day, when free, to read thoroughly and see what is offered ..

thanks for the book !

this Golden Rule No. 1 shone through ... from the book ....
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  • #2,288
  • Aug 15, 2010 3:10pm Aug 15, 2010 3:10pm
Quoting fxsignal
Quite right about the VP drawing, however the market will allow you to draw then using price, its up to you to find the correct radi. Basically the VP is a curved non linear trend line, once you can draw the lower limit, the upper limit should be a match, this gives you the rugby ball look.

Now, price should stay with in the upper and lower limit boundary, once it starts moving out, you get a heads up that something is going on. What I posted was to show people the idea so the actual drawing was not spot on.

However, I am also a fractal trader...
Hi, thanks for your posts. I think I might have found one of the possible explanations (see the attached chart).

However, I have a question for you: how do you judge whether your chart is scaled properly on MT4? I know there is this trial-and-error method. But I am not sure if I scaled the chart properly, even in mathematical terms for other more esoteric calculations. Different scaling produces different results. I see your charts are MT4 charts and thought you might have some insights to share on this topic? Thanks.
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  • #2,289
  • Aug 15, 2010 3:45pm Aug 15, 2010 3:45pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Dear members,

I want to start a new thread on Gann and cycle trading.
I like this thread but it is specificly for EURUSD and specific planetary.
So I thought a Gann thread would be a nice addition.

However, I do not have enough "vouchers".
Can you please vouch for me so I can start a new thread?

Thank you in advance.

Pippin.
Did you change your user name again?

I would love to vouch for you. But I think the FF system requires at least four vouchers before anyone can vouch for others. Given that many members here are not highly-vouched members, this might not be the perfect place to ask for that.

On the other hand, are you sure you need vouchers to open a thread? I remember last year someone opened a thread while still new though I am not at all sure about the details. It might be worth looking into it.

If you have your new thread opened, I would surely join you!
  • #2,290
  • Aug 15, 2010 8:40pm Aug 15, 2010 8:40pm
Quoting fxsignal
Here is a before the fact analysis of the EURUSD for you. 1.26990 is about as low as the eurusd can go before it has to make a retrace up, price cannot go back in time so it will have to escape from the VP soon.

All the best

Mike
There is natural support at 2680.
  • #2,291
  • Aug 15, 2010 11:26pm Aug 15, 2010 11:26pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Dear members,

I want to start a new thread on Gann and cycle trading.
I like this thread but it is specificly for EURUSD and specific planetary.
So I thought a Gann thread would be a nice addition.

However, I do not have enough "vouchers".
Can you please vouch for me so I can start a new thread?

Thank you in advance.

Pippin.
Hi MY WAVE


Done , VOUCHER's

Dear Friend



Warm Regards
VINCY BALBOA
DRAGON-TECHNICAL ANALYSIS!
  • #2,292
  • Aug 16, 2010 8:10am Aug 16, 2010 8:10am
Quoting vincy balboa
Hi MY WAVE


Done , VOUCHER's

Dear Friend



Warm Regards
VINCY BALBOA
Xie xie Great Legend!
  • #2,293
  • Aug 17, 2010 1:06pm Aug 17, 2010 1:06pm
could this work?
u all know that eurusd gbpusd usdjpy usdchf usdcad audusd.... correlate..
what if we take EURUSD as SUN and other pairs as Jupiter, Saturn... (depending on the average volume traded or any other viable condition).. the goal is to find non-correlation moments according to aspects..
  • #2,294
  • Aug 18, 2010 9:48am Aug 18, 2010 9:48am
this what I am looking at for GBPUSD.
Today is a moon declination day, moon will reach lowest point and go up from there at 18:00 GMT.
Expect priceaction at that time counter trend.

Overall the GBPUSD looks bearish. MACD has crossed over on the daily and price bounced of a saturn channel at 1.60.
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  • #2,295
  • Aug 18, 2010 6:24pm Aug 18, 2010 6:24pm
Hi guys,

I've been following this thread for quite a while, in particular JamesHong's work and I'm trying to find the correct natal dates for EUR,USD,AUD,GBP.

According to this thread, Jameshong's natal date for EUR is Jan 1 1999 12:01 GMT. However I did some research and this doesn't seem to match up with the dates for which Jameshong claims there is a transit-natal aspect.

For example:

On James' first thread he says 2008.09.24, Mars opposite Saturn (EUR natal).

I looked this up using the given natal date and I find that Mars is opposite EUR's Saturn on 2008.09.29.

If anyone can point me in the right direction for natal dates that James uses it'd be very much appreciated.

PS/ James please come back and shower us with your wisdom!!
  • #2,296
  • Aug 19, 2010 5:50am Aug 19, 2010 5:50am
Quoting metalaxe
Hi guys,

I've been following this thread for quite a while, in particular JamesHong's work and I'm trying to find the correct natal dates for EUR,USD,AUD,GBP.

According to this thread, Jameshong's natal date for EUR is Jan 1 1999 12:01 GMT. However I did some research and this doesn't seem to match up with the dates for which Jameshong claims there is a transit-natal aspect.

For example:

On James' first thread he says 2008.09.24, Mars opposite Saturn (EUR natal).

I looked this up using the given natal date and I find that Mars is opposite...
It's said that the starting (benchmark) date does not have to be natal date. For stocks, that might be easier, but forex, it's a bit muddled. Ferrera in his writing pointed out in various occasions that one can choose a product's extreme low or high as a starting date in order to check future aspects. Beann uses similar ideas too.

I remember reading/hearing someone said that Cable's natal date is 12 April, 1927. I never used that because I use Cable's extreme low. But you can give it a try.
  • #2,297
  • Aug 19, 2010 7:19am Aug 19, 2010 7:19am
I am here to log a complaint about the impact of all these astro events on the markets......... It should have been more exciting! ....
  • #2,298
  • Aug 19, 2010 8:12am Aug 19, 2010 8:12am
Quoting Oshawa
I am here to log a complaint about the impact of all these astro events on the markets......... It should have been more exciting! ....
That's summer for you!
You need some volume to create havoc.

Anyway, I like to keep it calm. Moon declination yesterday was good for 100 pips on eurusd!
  • #2,299
  • Aug 20, 2010 12:12am Aug 20, 2010 12:12am
thanks oshawa, it seems pretty logical to use an extreme high or low now that I think about it.

the reason why I wanted to know was because it seemed the set up that James was using made him a pretty successful trader (that and his technical analysis).

I want to have the same planetary aspects as James as I am compiling data on which aspects work and since he has already posted some of his trades which prove to be quite successful, I would rather work with that.

Just out of curiosity, how does your method work out for you?
  • #2,300
  • Aug 20, 2010 6:25am Aug 20, 2010 6:25am
Quoting metalaxe
thanks oshawa, it seems pretty logical to use an extreme high or low now that I think about it.

the reason why I wanted to know was because it seemed the set up that James was using made him a pretty successful trader (that and his technical analysis).

I want to have the same planetary aspects as James as I am compiling data on which aspects work and since he has already posted some of his trades which prove to be quite successful, I would rather work with that.

Just out of curiosity, how does your method work out for you?
I am new to this and am still just messing around with calculations. As you can see from my tongue-in-cheek complaint above, the first so-called major climax of major astro events after I started learning about this turned out to be all but a lull.... But counting backwards, the geometric calculation is pretty amazing. I use only Cable as my petridish, and I could calculate, geometrically, the dates of tops and bottoms, such as 5 Aug. 2009, 19 May 2010, 6 Aug. 2010. And I could do it in a spreadsheet to get a low date for Cable on 6 May 2010 to the date, which is the date of the 'flash crash'.

I think this, if mastered well, might be a good system for overall bias, just like a more comprehensive Delta system, but the trader would still need to have his own technical tools and systems to trade on and fall back on. I read somewhere that Gann actually spent lot of time talking about trade management, bar type (candlesticks these days) but his later interpreters spent all the time only on his astrological/square calculations. The fancier stuff always gets more attention, right?
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