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  • #1,841
  • Aug 3, 2010 9:34am Aug 3, 2010 9:34am
Quoting wh1zz0
Let's face it, hulls is just an MACD crossover but disguised with beautiful colors

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wrong ... it is a moving average cross over
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  • #1,842
  • Aug 3, 2010 9:36am Aug 3, 2010 9:36am
perfect vsa set up on gu sell ... was sleeping so did not get it but took the selling climax off 1.5890

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  • #1,843
  • Aug 3, 2010 9:47am Aug 3, 2010 9:47am
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  • #1,844
  • Aug 3, 2010 9:48am Aug 3, 2010 9:48am
Quoting malcolmb14
wrong ... it is a moving average cross over
MACD moving average cross over. Same thing.

What's the meaning of MACD? It means Moving Average Convergence & Divergence.
  • #1,845
  • Aug 3, 2010 9:54am Aug 3, 2010 9:54am
Quoting wh1zz0
MACD moving average cross over. Same thing.

What's the meaning of MACD? It means Moving Average Convergence & Divergence.

true true...

all hulls does is alert me to trend change ... that is all ... so i do not have to be sitting here for hours at a time.
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  • #1,846
  • Aug 3, 2010 9:58am Aug 3, 2010 9:58am
Quoting malcolmb14
wrong ... it is a moving average cross over
Um.... actually, nevermind. If you are going to use a crossover why not use the GMMA? It is much better than hulls. The GMMA is more lagging and only slightly less useless.

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  • #1,847
  • Aug 3, 2010 10:04am Aug 3, 2010 10:04am
Hello everyone, back from a great fishing trip on the coast of BC.

Seems I missed a nice bull run on the majors. I dont use the Hulls myself but rather a 20 period ema. I find it does the trick for my trading plan.
  • #1,848
  • Aug 3, 2010 10:42am Aug 3, 2010 10:42am
Quoting ZootSuit
Um.... actually, nevermind. If you are going to use a crossover why not use the GMMA? It is much better than hulls. The GMMA is more lagging and only slightly less useless.

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nice post and goes to show you have not read one post of my trading style

vsa is about history ....

so what do I use hulls for well for a trend trade obviously , when it changes colour it sends an alert to my iphone so i can come to the computer and trade if there is a valid vsa set up in the background as there was on gu and eu overnight thru london that gave 80 pip and 70 pip trade

you obviously do not understand the concept of vsa and i would kindly request you go post in another thread unless you are going to post something valid.

again ...hulls is just away of getting an alert sent to you so you do not have to sit in front of the computer for 12 hours plus a day that is all . The base of what i do is volume spread analysis.

In fact today i completely ignored hulls and took the long gu 1.5890 due to selling climax off yesterday point of control
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  • #1,849
  • Aug 3, 2010 10:56am Aug 3, 2010 10:56am
Quoting TC East
Hey Intel...if you don't mind, could I ask you to expand a bit on this explanation? On the bar Tea Time marked "Doji?", I see how it's high volume closing near prior close, and your explanation makes sense. But here's where I get confused on these bars: couldn't another explanation be that SM is selling into that upmove, and that's what's keeping it from going any higher on all that volume?

What's the difference there, and how do you know it's SM absorbing the selling rather than SM selling into the buying? Is it because the background had a...
You've just about got it. It's all about SM and their actions approaching the doji. If we are in an up move and have seen no signs of weakness as we hit a resistance area, then we get a wide spread up bar closing in the middle on high volume, ask yourself what SM are doing.

1. We are in an up trend - STRENGTH

2. We see no signs of weakness - LACK OF WEAKNESS

3. We are at an area of resistance - HERD SELLS HERE

If we now get our selling bar followed by a doji, the most likely scenario is that it's the herd who are selling and SM are matching the trades. There is only 1 reason that SM would absorb supply like that, they know that prices are heading north. Of course, if the herd is doing a lot of selling, it may take a few intervals for SM to absorb it all. In general, the more absorbtion that goes on, the more likely a test will come. If there is very little selling from the herd, there may not be a test at all.

In our scenario above. If we had a wide spread up bar closing off the high on ultra high volume during the recent background, the whole outlook could change. It would now probably be SM who are selling because the herd having seen some wide spread up bars approaching resistance (and thinking this meant a push through was coming) would be lured into buying.

Look at the background and whats happening now and ask yourself ....why?
  • #1,850
  • Aug 3, 2010 11:02am Aug 3, 2010 11:02am
Quoting malcolmb14
perfect vsa set up on gu sell ... was sleeping so did not get it but took the selling climax off 1.5890

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Nice calls Mal. VSA in a range.....awesome!
  • #1,851
  • Aug 3, 2010 11:39am Aug 3, 2010 11:39am
Hi guys did anyone notice the usually high volume in Europe/US session is at very low volume???

Was wondering how you guys interpret cos I see lack of demand and for daily there is a buying climax yesterday might be a turning pt.
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  • #1,852
  • Aug 3, 2010 12:43pm Aug 3, 2010 12:43pm
Quoting Jmx
Hi guys did anyone notice the usually high volume in Europe/US session is at very low volume???

Was wondering how you guys interpret cos I see lack of demand and for daily there is a buying climax yesterday might be a turning pt.
4hr i find really hard to read , 60 min shows 2 buying climaxes for sure.

Wonder if this plays out in London

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  • #1,853
  • Aug 3, 2010 12:55pm Aug 3, 2010 12:55pm
hmm FXCM volume on hrly is so different.

The recent climax tht reflexed in ur chart is of lower volume but the yesterday the climax volume is very high..... while ibfx is almost the same as urs........
  • #1,854
  • Aug 3, 2010 2:12pm Aug 3, 2010 2:12pm
Quoting Intel
You've just about got it....
Hey Intel appreciate your time on this. Makes more sense to me now after thinking about your explanation. Thanks again...
  • #1,855
  • Aug 3, 2010 3:14pm Aug 3, 2010 3:14pm
when it (the MA) changes colour it sends an alert to my iphone

Now that's an interesting idea.....

On this chart I'm seeing that all of the dark blue high volume has been between 13:00 and 15:00 UK time - i.e. early in the US session.....except today, where the volumes were low and the range was also narrow
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  • #1,856
  • Aug 3, 2010 7:22pm Aug 3, 2010 7:22pm
Quoting Intel
You've just about got it....
Lovely. Quality. Explanation.

It's gold when you experienced VSA traders take the time to explain how the principles can be applied.

cheers
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  • #1,857
  • Aug 3, 2010 7:49pm Aug 3, 2010 7:49pm
Quoting Islander
when it (the MA) changes colour it sends an alert to my iphone

Now that's an interesting idea.....

On this chart I'm seeing that all of the dark blue high volume has been between 13:00 and 15:00 UK time - i.e. early in the US session.....except today, where the volumes were low and the range was also narrow
I expect sellers in London / us session

value area was only 30 pip wide today ...that smells of distribution

also check this out

60 min gu ...end of a rising market picked up by TG ... do not see those very often

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  • #1,858
  • Aug 3, 2010 7:53pm Aug 3, 2010 7:53pm
Quoting malcolmb14
I expect sellers in London / us session

value area was only 30 pip wide today ...that smells of distribution

also check this out

60 min gu ...end of a rising market picked up by TG ... do not see those very often

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forgot 2nd chart

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  • #1,859
  • Aug 3, 2010 7:58pm Aug 3, 2010 7:58pm
Quoting malcolmb14
forgot 2nd chart

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thinking about this further , thinking we may see an ut to 1.6000 then this is where a 150 pip down move will start ...

will wait for frankie / london for this play
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  • #1,860
  • Aug 3, 2010 9:33pm Aug 3, 2010 9:33pm
Malc, I was wondering how your hulls compare to the diamonds in TG ?
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